Week 5 vs Cowboys - Not quite invincible at all

[GBkrzygrl]

I too have my concerns if they're playing without Adams. I'd like to see them get Tonyan more involved. Don't have a lot of faith in Graham.
If they can stop Elliott and the offense can get their running game going then I think they have a chance.

Sorry, for some reason I'm not too optimistic.

 

[rodell330]

I don’t have faith in MVS or GMO to be huge factors at all without Adams. I definitely don’t have faith in LaFleur to come up with a good game plan as he has shown me very little as a playcaller....especially in the 2nd half of games where the guy hasn’t adjusted to really anything at all. It’s literally like watching A McCarthy Offense all over again smh.

If they are smart they will use double tightends and run the ball. You can Also run playaction out of that set. Stop trying to feature Jimmy Graham! This dude is pretty much worthless outside the 10 yd line. They need to only bring him in then. He can’t block, he can’t separate, and he’s a liability in the run game. He does absolutely nothing great. I’d like to see Tonyan featured in this game.

Unless Rodgers goes crazy I can’t see us winning this game at all. I mean crazy to the tune of 400 yds passing and 4 TDS which I don’t see at all with this group of WRs.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

I don’t have faith in MVS or GMO to be huge factors at all without Adams. I definitely don’t have faith in LaFleur to come up with a good game plan as he has shown me very little as a playcaller....especially in the 2nd half of games where the guy hasn’t adjusted to really anything at all. It’s literally like watching A McCarthy Offense all over again smh.

If they are smart they will use double tightends and run the ball. You can Also run playaction out of that set. Stop trying to feature Jimmy Graham! This dude is pretty much worthless outside the 10 yd line. They need to only bring him in then. He can’t block, he can’t separate, and he’s a liability in the run game. He does absolutely nothing great. I’d like to see Tonyan featured in this game.

Unless Rodgers goes crazy I can’t see us winning this game at all. I mean crazy to the tune of 400 yds passing and 4 TDS which I don’t see at all with this group of WRs.

I agree with everything you said. This is why yesterday I said I think we should build our team differently. Our WR group is not good. By the time they are good AR is gonna be a grandpa. We will not outscore people in shootouts anymore. Those days are gone. Thats why i love the double TE idea. Lets get tough. Keep scores low. And control the clock. Kansas City cant score 50 points if we keep the ball from them and milk the clock with runs and short passes.

 

[Dayooper]

I seen this morning on sports that they are giving the packers a 40% chance to beat the cowboys. I think out door activities are in for Sunday other wise I will be miserable on Monday

 

[Sanguine camper]

Agree the MLF will need to get very creative with playcalling and adjustments. The problem is that his zone running sceme is falling flat. Last year the Packers had an outstanding ypc and now they are near the league bottom, all with the same personnel. Let's see: Adams is out, Buluga is hurting, the offense is one dimensional and the TE's are playing like crap. Unless the defense plays much much better than their dreadful Philly performance, I don't see how the Dallas game will be close.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Agree the MLF will need to get very creative with playcalling and adjustments. The problem is that his zone running sceme is falling flat. Last year the Packers had an outstanding ypc and now they are near the league bottom, all with the same personnel. Let's see: Adams is out, Buluga is hurting, the offense is one dimensional and the TE's are playing like crap. Unless the defense plays much much better than their dreadful Philly performance, I don't see how the Dallas game will be close.

Careful, people on this forum will bite your head off if you say stuff like this. I agree with you btw

 

[greengold]

I thought LaFleur game planned well enough to win all 4 of the games we played. We were faced with not only beating PHI last week, but also the officials. How many PI calls were not called? Blatant? Damn F'ing straight they were. How many??? And, that somehow correlates with poor game planning?

I mean, C'mon!!! The Cowpies have played the Giants, Redskins, Dolphins and the Saints, minus Drew Brees.


Packers win this.

 

[PackAttack12]

Packers defense will have to force a lot of turnovers to stay in the game. With Adams out , I have very little confidence in the offense with the o line playing surprisingly bad this season. With the Cowboys tacles out or hurting, Z and Preston will need to dial up some strip sacks.

The Packers haven't excelled in run blocking for much of the season, but the past two weeks, Rodgers has been kept off the ground for the most part. 1, maybe 2 sack.s

 

[OldSchool101]

Another gut wrencher about the Rogers fumble is that when he was hit and winding up to throw it was because he had seen MVS break free downfield.
Instead of a 79 yard touchdown for us it's Eagles ball at our 17.

He undoubtedly had his eyes glued on something he liked very much.. to the point of holding it a smidge too long.
That missed opportunity is all the more reason I believe we should open the field up a bit and launch a few to MVS on a deep route.

 

[OldSchool101]

I too have my concerns if they're playing without Adams. I'd like to see them get Tonyan more involved. Don't have a lot of faith in Graham.
If they can stop Elliott and the offense can get their running game going then I think they have a chance.

Sorry, for some reason I'm not too optimistic.

While I somewhat agree and understand that could creat some initial reservation..we’re not playing the Redskins! (bad joke sorry!)

Seriously though, I like our chances and I think we can hang with them even without Davante.
Two reasons, both Dallas’ RT Collins and LT Tyron Smith missed practice this week. That in itself is very significant, even if 1 goes they likely are not playing both their starting Tackles and if both miss? They are in serious trouble. The key will be to focus on Dak taking those short throws as he’s a league leader in that area. We need to bring someone up to spy him and cover the short pass, let’s challenge him to go long and force him to throw vs run.

Add to that, on the GB side Brian Bulaga will likely play (he was initially projected to miss this game).
King will likely be out but I like our chances getting Jackson involved. Also our presumed starter Montravius Adams may have a chance to play.
Jake Kumerow will likely be active also. I don’t think we’re as undermanned as one would think. Rodgers will find his receiver and if he can make Janis look good? I have faith he can make these guys look good.


Im interested to see if they play Dexter some. He needs the reps.

 

[PackerDNA]

I don't know that this is a good matchup for us at this time, especially if Adams can't play. They'll have to have a very good game plan and execute the hell out of it.
And the Cowboys RT Collins is playing.

 

[OldSchool101]

I don't know that this is a good matchup for us at this time, especially if Adams can't play. They'll have to have a very good game plan and execute the hell out of it.
And the Cowboys RT Collins is playing.

Not that I want to win because of injuries, but it goes both ways. We’re without our best receiver. But they are playing without their LT.
As far as RT. If he’s playing, then he’s playing with a flared back.
https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...lams-xavier-sua-filo-injuries-offensive-line/

 

[PackAttack12]

I don't know that this is a good matchup for us at this time, especially if Adams can't play. They'll have to have a very good game plan and execute the hell out of it.
And the Cowboys RT Collins is playing.

Smith is out though. By far the most important Cowboys offensive lineman. Dak struggles without him.

 

[OldSchool101]

Smith is out though. By far the most important Cowboys offensive lineman. Dak struggles without him.

This one will be won or lost in the trenches. Getting Montravius back is good timing to help bolster the DL.

 

[PackerDNA]

Yeah, Collins has back issues. So does Bak, and Bulaga has a bad shoulder.

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah, Collins has back issues. So does Bak, and Bulaga has a bad shoulder.

I’m not seeing Bakhtiari on any injury report. Is this recent?

 

[AmishMafia]

Pack 23 cowboys 17


Man I dislike the cowboys and Jerry jones.

Hope the pack whoops em good.

 

[PackerDNA]

I’m not seeing Bakhtiari on any injury report. Is this recent?

I don't know if he's a hundred percent yet, but it's been an ongoing issue for him, and it's had an obvious effect on his play.

 

[Johneric8]

Hello my old friends... As some of you guys remember, I have said in the past the Rogers is the scariest QB on the planet and us Cowboys fans never expect good things when he is at the helm. Having said that, the one bright spot for the cowboys is that they have a healthy Michael Gallup back with Cooper getting healthier as well, and I can honestly say that Gallup looks to be about as legit as they come for a young guy. With Gallup in the lineup playing as well as he does presents major problems for defenses, so this will be interesting as Gallup has honestly been Dak's Go to which opens up Armari.

I think the Packers defense is really really good and will have a good showing especially if Tyron Smith is really out which I suspect he is. Here is my last take- I think Garrett has taken some heat over the last offensive showing because many believe that he pulled in the reins on our offensive coordinator Kellen Moore and wanted a more conservative gameplan. People such as myself the dissect everything could see that we tried to use the red ball express (garrett) method of forcing the ball with zeke between the tackles which doesn't work if the other team is gearing up to take it away. Make no mistake about it, the cowboys called a conservative gameplan offensively and the results showed. The saints we're great up front, and the cowboys stuck to the garrett express unfortunately.

I honestly see the offense getting back to tons of motions and pass plays to open up the run as opposed to playing old school 90's cowboys ball.. I heard through the grapevine that Garrett was castrated by jones for meddling with the gameplan and playing not to lose a close game. One would think they would pound it with elliot, but I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Again, I almost expect somehow someway Rogers coming up with some circus throws followed by his delightful little smirk because of his love for our stadium. One player to watch though is Cobb because even though he says this is just another game I don't think that is the case. I think Cobb has a huge game quite honestly, but this game could go either way seeing as both teams really need to win this one to get back on track.

Here is to a great game with no injuries!

 

[OldSchool101]

NO gave us the first template of how to slow Dallas down. LB #56 shot the gaps and was in the backfield all day.
The GB run D has been suspect, but I feel like Pettine will apply more resources to thwart the running attack, which Dallas relies upon heavily to open their passing game.

That said. Shutting down the Run is a tall order when that’s been our weakness. But Pettine has talent resources and will hopefully use a mold of NO gameplay to at least slow them down.

 

[greengold]

DVOA of DAL opponents: NYG 22, WAS 29, MIA 32, NO 21

DVOA of GB opponents: CHI 8, MIN 15, DEN, 27, PHI 6

I don't know what this really means, especially with DAL ranked #3 overall and GB ranked #9 overall... Football Outsiders is showing NE to have the best Defense ever recorded through the first 4 weeks. That, to me, seems insane, given NE has played some really poor teams, again. I'm thinking they may want to revamp some of their metrics.

What I DO KNOW, is that we've played a far more difficult schedule to date, with a new HC and a new system on O, and a ton of new players on D. It all looks like things are coming together well for the Packers, and I suspect that will continue in DAL on Sunday and throughout the season, should we stay healthy.

Pettine must do the job in stopping DAL in the run game though, and he's going to have his hands full with Jason Witten over the middle as well. If he can get his D ready to handle both of those jobs, we might be onto something big in GB with this Packers defense.

One wildcard I will throw in is Dexter Williams. If he is active and ready to run the rock, and he gets some blocking up front, he could have a field day. A lot needs to go right. Aaron Rodgers is the least of my worries. Solid blocking from our OL, and our D stopping Elliot and Witten should win the day.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Still, better have somebody to replace him. Now or later. I prefer now. I would actually start giving people some snaps during the game to see what we really have. I mean...I doubt he will be there all year long. Let him take a few breathers. He needs em.

As long as Bulaga is healthy enough to play there's no reason for another player to receive snaps at right tackle.

I don’t have faith in MVS or GMO to be huge factors at all without Adams. I definitely don’t have faith in LaFleur to come up with a good game plan as he has shown me very little as a playcaller....especially in the 2nd half of games where the guy hasn’t adjusted to really anything at all. It’s literally like watching A McCarthy Offense all over again smh.

It's surprising it took you four games to already give up on the new head coach

One wildcard I will throw in is Dexter Williams. If he is active and ready to run the rock, and he gets some blocking up front, he could have a field day.

I don't expect Dexter Williams to have a significant impact on Sunday.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The Packers have ruled out Davante Adams for Sunday's game at Dallas. Jamaal Williams and Tony Brown won't play as well.

Kevin King is listed as doubtful.

Montravius Adams, Bryan Bulaga, Oren Burks and Kyler Fackrell are questionable.

 

[gopkrs]

As long as Bulaga is healthy enough to play there's no reason for another player to receive snaps at right tackle.



It's surprising it took you four games to already give up on the new head coach



I don't expect Dexter Williams to have a significant impact on Sunday.

I gave reasons for playing someone else in spurts. You may not agree with them but that does not mean they are not valid reasons. I don't want to wait till he goes down again to know whether or not we have someone who can play and Spriggs is proof positive that the coaches can't see what they have simply from practice. BTW I don't see you commenting about the mediocrity of Russell Wilson anymore. Just to point out that you are not always correct.

 

[rmontro]

Nobody cares what somebody named "Skip" says or thinks.

He is a piece of work. He's there to entertain mainly, whether or not is another question. I imagine Cowboy and Patriot fans like him, and there are a lot of those. Today he said that Aaron Rodgers stats have fallen for four straight years, which is a blatant falsehood. Now if he had said that Rodgers stats over the past four years are not as good as his previous years, that is true. Although there are reasons for that.

But Cowherd today, wow. He claims not to be unbiased, and not a fan of particular teams. But he grew up in Seattle and Russel Wilson played well last night so he was really feeling his oats. He said Rodgers is 3-10 on the road the past few years. With the Dallas game coming up, he said the Packers have a defense now, he needs to start winning these games, no more excuses.