Trade Deadline Targets

[GreenNGold_81]

Reviving an old thread to bring up that the Packers are kicking tires on Mike Gesicki and AJ Green.

 

[Pkrjones]

Reviving an old thread to bring up that the Packers are kicking tires on Mike Gesicki and AJ Green.

Gesicki is getting $10.931Mil in '22, which translates to $640k/game. It appears Miami wants a TE that can block more than a receiving TE... does Gute throw a late-rounder and Lewis for Gesicki offer? Does weakening (even more) our seldom-used running game & improving our pass-game (slightly?) make sense? Gesicki wants to get paid in '23 (guessing $13-$15Mil/yr since he's already 10th highest paid at $10.931Mil)... as does Tonyan. I'm saying "no thanks" to Gesicki trade.

 

[PackerDNA]

I'm of the thought that they should add two people. Either two trades, or a trade and a free agent like OBJ later. You bringing one guy who isn't even a top level receiver or even just a pretty good one and what does your opponent do? Same thing to do when we had Adams in the playoffs-double team your new number one because you're not worried about anybody else.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

I'm of the thought that they should add two people. Either two trades, or a trade and a free agent like OBJ later. You bringing one guy who isn't even a top level receiver or even just a pretty good one and what does your opponent do? Same thing to do when we had Adams in the playoffs-double team your new number one because you're not worried about anybody else.

Two moves makes sense to me. TE and WR. That would be a win now move. Figure out who we're paying in the offseason.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Two moves makes sense to me. TE and WR. That would be a win now move. Figure out who we're paying in the offseason.

The problem is, whomever you bring in has to somehow establish chemistry with Rodgers and the Offense. I don't see that happening in time to save this season. They should have made moves before the start of the season, not once they are 3-4.

 

[tynimiller]

The problem is, whomever you bring in has to somehow establish chemistry with Rodgers and the Offense. I don't see that happening in time to save this season. They should have made moves before the start of the season, not once they are 3-4.

Shoot the way Aaron is complaining short of bring Adams back the most likely well received would be his Kumerow back LOL

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Shoot the way Aaron is complaining short of bring Adams back the most likely well received would be his Kumerow back LOL

Too funny, I was just reading an article on one of Aarons favorite WR's!

Aaron Rodgers cracks a Jake Kumerow joke on 'The Pat McAfee Show'

Talking about the Bills provided the Packers QB a chance to crack a joke about one of his favorite former teammates.

packerswire.usatoday.com

All this trade talk doesn't make a lot of sense if its a one year deal. Personally, I think this offense is more than a player or 2 (non-elite) away from being good. Maybe a season or 2 of the rookie WR's melding with Rodgers, but how long does he have left?

2 out of the next 3 opponents (Buffalo and Dallas) will be coming off of bye weeks when they play the Packers. So what already looked like 2 tough games, could be even tougher. If the Packers win their next 3, I see the season as being back on. If they lose all 3, it is all but over.

 

[Heyjoe4]

The problem is, whomever you bring in has to somehow establish chemistry with Rodgers and the Offense. I don't see that happening in time to save this season. They should have made moves before the start of the season, not once they are 3-4.

Very true. I can only speak for me, but I had this WR group waaaaaaay overrated. I thought Lazard would rise to a true #1, that Cobb would be Cobb, and that Doubs would have a coming out party. I was only right about Cobb, and now he's out.

I guess at this point I just wanna see Gluten try and do something to save the season. The bad news is that nothing is in the Packers'favor right now, starting with the schedule.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

The problem is, whomever you bring in has to somehow establish chemistry with Rodgers and the Offense. I don't see that happening in time to save this season. They should have made moves before the start of the season, not once they are 3-4.

If we're not making moves to add, we should be selling assets (Jones, who is set to make a TON of money next year) for picks. The Eagles are LOADED with talent right now and have two firsts next year even after their big trade today. Status quo isn't going to get us anywhere IMO.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If we're not making moves to add, we should be selling assets (Jones, who is set to make a TON of money next year) for picks. The Eagles are LOADED with talent right now and have two firsts next year even after their big trade today. Status quo isn't going to get us anywhere IMO.

Agree. At some point and it may be coming soon (after the Buffalo game) the Packers organization will need to determine if they are contenders or pretenders for 2022. If they feel that they are contenders, than we may see them try to improve the roster on Monday and Tuesday. Pretenders? Might start trading guys to save future cap and pick up some draft assets.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Gesicki is getting $10.931Mil in '22, which translates to $640k/game. It appears Miami wants a TE that can block more than a receiving TE... does Gute throw a late-rounder and Lewis for Gesicki offer? Does weakening (even more) our seldom-used running game & improving our pass-game (slightly?) make sense? Gesicki wants to get paid in '23 (guessing $13-$15Mil/yr since he's already 10th highest paid at $10.931Mil)... as does Tonyan. I'm saying "no thanks" to Gesicki trade.

While Gesicki would immediately become the best receiving tight end on the roster I don't think he's that much of a difference maker to significantly improve the offense for this season. Therefore I would like the Packers to pass on him as well, especially considering how much cap space it would take to add him to the roster.

If we're not making moves to add, we should be selling assets (Jones, who is set to make a TON of money next year) for picks. The Eagles are LOADED with talent right now and have two firsts next year even after their big trade today. Status quo isn't going to get us anywhere IMO.

I would prefer the Packers to keep Jones and try to restructure his deal in the offseason. It might be smart to trade away some other players before the deadline though.

 

[PikeBadger]

While Gesicki would immediately become the best receiving tight end on the roster I don't think he's that much of a difference maker to significantly improve the offense for this season. Therefore I would like the Packers to pass on him as well, especially considering how much cap space it would take to add him to the roster.



I would prefer the Packers to keep Jones and try to restructure his deal in the offseason. It might be smart to trade away some other players before the deadline though.

Names please.

 

[Pkrjones]

Names please.

The following players are UNrestricted Free Agents in '23 & can get Franchise or Transition Tagged OR a shiny, new, expensive contract from GB or any other team. In order from what I would consider highest contract value to lowest:
Jenkins
Lazard
Amos
Tonyan
Crosby
Reed
...and the rest: Lewis, Cobb, Watkins, Wilson, Leavitt, Ford, Nixon.

Jenkins can extend long-term & push out big numbers into '24-'27 if Gute wants to.
Lazard thru Reed I doubt GB will have the cap room to re-sign so any of them are trade-bait IF Gute decides to try to get a pick or 2 for them. Besides Jenkins & Amos do any have value more than a late rounder? If no, keep them for now, & get a '24 Comp pick for them after they leave this offseason.

 

[PikeBadger]

The following players are UNrestricted Free Agents in '23 & can get Franchise or Transition Tagged OR a shiny, new, expensive contract from GB or any other team. In order from what I would consider highest contract value to lowest:
Jenkins
Lazard
Amos
Tonyan
Crosby
Reed
...and the rest: Lewis, Cobb, Watkins, Wilson, Leavitt, Ford, Nixon.

Jenkins can extend long-term & push out big numbers into '24-'27 if Gute wants to.
Lazard thru Reed I doubt GB will have the cap room to re-sign so any of them are trade-bait IF Gute decides to try to get a pick or 2 for them. Besides Jenkins & Amos do any have value more than a late rounder? If no, keep them for now, & get a '24 Comp pick for them after they leave this offseason.

I'd say keep em and let them become free agents. Honestly I could see them trading Crosby if someone is in dire need of a kicker.

 

[gopkrs]

Two moves makes sense to me. TE and WR. That would be a win now move. Figure out who we're paying in the offseason.

What about a starting caliber O lineman?

 

[Heyjoe4]

The following players are UNrestricted Free Agents in '23 & can get Franchise or Transition Tagged OR a shiny, new, expensive contract from GB or any other team. In order from what I would consider highest contract value to lowest:
Jenkins
Lazard
Amos
Tonyan
Crosby
Reed
...and the rest: Lewis, Cobb, Watkins, Wilson, Leavitt, Ford, Nixon.

Jenkins can extend long-term & push out big numbers into '24-'27 if Gute wants to.
Lazard thru Reed I doubt GB will have the cap room to re-sign so any of them are trade-bait IF Gute decides to try to get a pick or 2 for them. Besides Jenkins & Amos do any have value more than a late rounder? If no, keep them for now, & get a '24 Comp pick for them after they leave this offseason.

Or they could include one or more of these guys in a trade now. The only untouchables, IMO, are Jenkins and Amos. And it may force Gluten to finally find the next kicker, although Crosby isn't expensive and seems to be defying the aging process.

Goos stuff Pkrjones. Thanks.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

I'd say keep em and let them become free agents. Honestly I could see them trading Crosby if someone is in dire need of a kicker.

I don't think I have ever seen a kicker traded... let alone in season.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I don't think I have ever seen a kicker traded... let alone in season.

And I don't think someone would trade for a kicker who is already past his "sell by" date.

 

[Pkrjones]

Before anyone gets excited that Gute called Houston regarding Brandin Cooks... Cooks' 2023 salary of $18Mil is fully guaranteed (+ $500k roster bonus) which I don't think Gute will be able to fit into the '23 cap. Gute is working to phones, just don't know if any deals will get done before Tuesday (buying OR selling).

 

[Krabs]

Before anyone gets excited that Gute called Houston regarding Brandin Cooks... Cooks' 2023 salary of $18Mil is fully guaranteed (+ $500k roster bonus) which I don't think Gute will be able to fit into the '23 cap. Gute is working to phones, just don't know if any deals will get done before Tuesday (buying OR selling).

I also read that they are generally calling about WRs that are on their rookie deals.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I also read that they are generally calling about WRs that are on their rookie deals.

That's interesting Krabs and given the cap situation, makes sense. I just think that for the same reason the Packers would want someone like that, no team will let such a person go. I still like the Brandin Cooks idea, but that seems DOA due to cap.

 

[Snoops]

I don't think I have ever seen a kicktraded... let alone in a season

The Vikings did a few years ago for Kaare Vedvik with the ravens for a 5th round pick lmaooooooooo

 

[David Ciembronowicz]

IMO There will not be any major trade for a WR, maybe a minor one if at all;;;; the management is willing to go with what they have and deal with the results of a lost season.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I also read that they are generally calling about WRs that are on their rookie deals.

Which is why the rumors of them trying to work out a deal with Pittsburgh for Claypool is the most appealing to me. 1 1/2 years left on a rookie deal and I think adding Claypool gives Rodgers and the Packers the best chance of having a decent group of WR's next season and perhaps by the end of this season. Claypool has a pretty big upside and with the crap the Steelers have at QB, I am sure he would welcome the chance to catch passes from AR, especially to boost his market value in 2024.

 

[Magooch]

Frankly at this point I'm convinced that "GB has been calling about receivers" is little more than someone leaking to the press a bogus story about us being interested in XYZ just to give the impression that we're trying, in the hopes that it appeases fans a little bit: "Well, at least they tried, just didn't work out" or such.

In the end I suspect we will hear that we were "in conversations" with a lot of different players and in the end none of them will be wearing Green and Gold a few weeks from now.

That said...it's been mentioned elsewhere but really it hinges on Rodgers' future. If he is giving clear indications that he intends to be here next season then you need to go all-in. Like, trade for a WR or TE *and* sign OBJ in free agency. And if Rodgers has communicated that he won't be here next season...then may as well start blowing it all up.