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There are many ways of attempting to determine what constitutes being the greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL. Some could look at Dan Marino and say that he had the greatest arm talent the game has ever seen, put up huge numbers in an era where you didn't see that type of QB production, but unfortunately never had a defense to help him win SB's.
Some could look at Peyton Manning and say that no one ever controlled the line of scrimmage better than he did, and he also played in 4 super bowls with 4 different head coaches (Dungy, Caldwell, Fox, Kubiak). Highly impressive.
Many look at Joe Montana and say that no one ever performed like he did on the biggest stage, 4 super bowls in 4 tries, with 3 MVP's, and never threw an interception in a SB. That's as Jordan-esque as it gets.
Then many over the past few years have looked at Tom Brady. As a complete body of work, how could you not? 5 victories in 7 tries, and the past 2 super bowls he had to come back from double digit deficits to close the deal and was phenomenal in those "back against the wall" situations.
So there's certainly different criteria to consider, but IMO, we can't go simply off of SB's because anyone with half a brain can tell you that Marino was a better quarterback than Aikman, but Aikman has 3 titles to zero for Marino.
Aaron Rodgers is better than Roethlisberger and little Manning, but they both have 2 titles to his 1.
So my question is simple, what does Rodgers have to do to put himself in serious conversation/consideration for greatest quarterback of all time?
Let's consider his current resume. Eight playoff appearances, three NFC Championship games appeared in, has a TD to INT ratio of 3.6 to 1. He's already 5th all time in playoff TD's, has better overall playoff numbers for his career than Tom Brady, cool Joe, and many of the other all time greats.
In my opinion, I think he has to find a way to snag at least 2 more super bowls before he hangs it up. He's definitely got a ton of work to do to get there, but fortunately for Rodgers, he already has 1, with a SB MVP to go with it, and didn't throw a pick in that SB. If he can get to three rings, with three MVP's, and perhaps find a way to not throw a pick in all three games, I think that certainly puts him in the conversation.
Unfortunately, as great as I feel that he is, he will never get the type of recognition and adulation he deserves without more hardware, even though I feel as if he's done all that he can do without more help from his defense to get it done.
I would say Rodgers has bare minimum 4 MVP level seasons left, with his current mobility that makes him so outstanding. Perhaps up to 7 depending on how he ages.
So what's got to happen for him to get there?
*Yes. I know that some will roll their eyes at this thread and say that we've had these discussions many times in the past, but I feel this has a different overall premise behind it. Also, it's July and I'm losing my mind waiting for some football.
Some could look at Peyton Manning and say that no one ever controlled the line of scrimmage better than he did, and he also played in 4 super bowls with 4 different head coaches (Dungy, Caldwell, Fox, Kubiak). Highly impressive.
Many look at Joe Montana and say that no one ever performed like he did on the biggest stage, 4 super bowls in 4 tries, with 3 MVP's, and never threw an interception in a SB. That's as Jordan-esque as it gets.
Then many over the past few years have looked at Tom Brady. As a complete body of work, how could you not? 5 victories in 7 tries, and the past 2 super bowls he had to come back from double digit deficits to close the deal and was phenomenal in those "back against the wall" situations.
So there's certainly different criteria to consider, but IMO, we can't go simply off of SB's because anyone with half a brain can tell you that Marino was a better quarterback than Aikman, but Aikman has 3 titles to zero for Marino.
Aaron Rodgers is better than Roethlisberger and little Manning, but they both have 2 titles to his 1.
So my question is simple, what does Rodgers have to do to put himself in serious conversation/consideration for greatest quarterback of all time?
Let's consider his current resume. Eight playoff appearances, three NFC Championship games appeared in, has a TD to INT ratio of 3.6 to 1. He's already 5th all time in playoff TD's, has better overall playoff numbers for his career than Tom Brady, cool Joe, and many of the other all time greats.
In my opinion, I think he has to find a way to snag at least 2 more super bowls before he hangs it up. He's definitely got a ton of work to do to get there, but fortunately for Rodgers, he already has 1, with a SB MVP to go with it, and didn't throw a pick in that SB. If he can get to three rings, with three MVP's, and perhaps find a way to not throw a pick in all three games, I think that certainly puts him in the conversation.
Unfortunately, as great as I feel that he is, he will never get the type of recognition and adulation he deserves without more hardware, even though I feel as if he's done all that he can do without more help from his defense to get it done.
I would say Rodgers has bare minimum 4 MVP level seasons left, with his current mobility that makes him so outstanding. Perhaps up to 7 depending on how he ages.
So what's got to happen for him to get there?
*Yes. I know that some will roll their eyes at this thread and say that we've had these discussions many times in the past, but I feel this has a different overall premise behind it. Also, it's July and I'm losing my mind waiting for some football.