Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Ceodore]

Has anybody checked in with Jodie Foster yet to get her take? Got the MVP speech shout-out and is apparently a big Packer fan. She can't be thrilled lol.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Leroy butler made a odd point.

If Rodgers holds grudges so much. How is he friends with Favre?

Misery loves company?

Common denominator? Similar career paths with the same team. I think Favre is friendly to most anyone, maybe after awhile Rodgers started to understand Favre more, as he slowly evolved into sitting in a similar saddle (straddle) that Brett sat in.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers could exceed expectations and still play at a top level till he's 43-44 and if thats the case great.

Spot on post and the part above is important. I don't think Gute or the FO ever had plans on moving on from Rodgers, if what you stated happens, why would they? Only 2 reasons I can think of and they almost have to happen hand in hand. Rodgers wants way too much money in 3 years and Love is playing like a potential FHOF'er.

Otherwise, as you alluded to and I have been saying all along, Love was a smart, relatively cheap insurance policy on an aging QB.

Imagine if Rodgers continued a slow downward path that all of us had seen up until 2020 and Gute didn't have a contingency plan in place. One bad hit last season and Rodgers career is over or severely diminished and Gute has Tim Boyle waiting. The same fans screaming at Gute now, would probably be back here wanting his head for not being a capable GM and seeing this coming.

 

[mongoosev]

I have read some really stupid things here, and on Twitter, and I think this might take the cake. Congratulations!

could be but....

 

[mongoosev]

Yeah, I’m sure the guy who cares about his legacy more than anything self sabotaged his chance at a SB.

logically speaking then why would he want to get traded or willing to sit out this year with a team that has a chance at going to the SB this year? shrugs

 

[OldSchool101]

2. Oh, so now any player who has a great season here and wants a payday for that is holding the Packers hostage.

Just the ones in their 40’s at the end of their contract.

2. Oh, so now any player who has a great season here and wants a payday for that is holding the Packers hostage. Guess Aaron Jones was holding us hostage getting his pay raise, and a good season from Davante Adams means he'll hold us hostage.

Those are not solid, comparable players. They won’t be in their 40’s at the end of their current contract.

I'm really not buying this ridiculous innuendo that Rodgers wants everyone kicked out of the front office

i agree that would be ridiculous! But while we are at it.. I have not seen any poster say “everyone” or even “most” or “many” so I’m not sure where you’re getting that argument from and I did look but can’t find it.

Could you state the post # please that states “everyone”? Thanks

Him threatening to retire if they don't trade him won't change any of that either and would only put himself at a loss as he'd end up having to sit out at least a season before he unretired and got back into football with another team

That’s absolutely false. Explain to me how the GBP benefit from Rodgers retiring? Wouldn’t they lose resources through trades or draft resources? This was entirely vindictive to make us pay dearly as a franchise and it’s clear to me and everyone on this staff he wants a pound of flesh.

Man oh man ... Mark Murphy is going to fire people in his front office because Aaron Rodgers said so? I mean seriously!!!

That’s not the point. The point is he’s publicly asked for it. Who does that? Why not just leave. Why burn bridges? Don’t answer that I already know

NFL teams are tax shelters and free money via city funded stadiums. Cry me a river about NFL owners all you want, the players add far more value than the owners but the owners know playing careers are short and are willing to lock out players.

Always strange to see ppl screaming about the rights of the monarchy over the serfs.

In the real world poor people don’t hire folks.

Its hypocritical if you work for a company and simultaneously disparage any other company for practicing Capitalism by earning profits . That argument would make us each fully complicit in the “blood money” argument. With some exceptions being tax payer funded etc..

I will however give you a pass..if you are a lifetime volunteer etc..

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

More "news" to add to the bonfire.....

Report: Packers think 49ers, Broncos tampered with Aaron Rodgers - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)

 

[DoURant]

Leroy butler made a odd point.

If Rodgers holds grudges so much. How is he friends with Favre?

Did Rodgers really hold a grudge against Favre, or was it the other way around?

 

[PackAttack12]

Right, because currently Aaron is wearing stark white, without any dirt on it?

What did the Packers get for Brett Favre?

Rodgers hasn't been waffling back and forth between retirement for the past few years. In fact, he's repeatedly stated a desire to play into his 40's.

Really not the point though. If you think for one minute that the Broncos or Raiders would be worried about Rodgers wrecking their chemistry or creating controversy, then I'm not sure what else to do besides chuckle uncontrollably. Especially after, reportedly, Rodgers is good with going to either team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers hasn't been waffling back and forth between retirement for the past few years. In fact, he's repeatedly stated a desire to play into his 40's.

Really not the point though. If you think for one minute that the Broncos or Raiders would be worried about Rodgers wrecking their chemistry or creating controversy, then I'm not sure what else to do besides chuckle uncontrollably. Especially after, reportedly, Rodgers is good with going to either team.

Sadly, I think we probably will get an answer to our debate, unless the Packers decide to call his bluff and he retires. If he is traded, we will get to see just how valuable he was to another team and like I said, my guess is that we get less than what some expect, especially those like yourself.

Let me ask you this, what do you predict (not expect or hope for) the Packers get in a trade, if one takes place?

 

[easyk83]

Let's consider something first, does Rodgers want Gute fired or is he simply looking for causes to to justify his departure from the team? Again if he's a hypercompetitive player who is determined to win it all atleast once more and if he doesnt feel that the Packers are matching his urgency does it make sense that his agent might leak this stuff to try and force a trade?

I think the Packers take is the correct one, let Rodgers stew for a while and when he gets burned by the stove he'll come back down to clear his head a bit and come back to Green Bay where he really does have his best shot of winning another Super Bowl. He won't actually retire. He's not going to let his career end like this.

BTW, I wasn't thrilled with Gute's drafting up through last season. But with the emergence of Gary and with Dillon's limited but encouraging performance I am a believer.

 

[tynimiller]

You know I could see this whole thing play out in a way I haven't seen...Gute steps down.

Gute in his position had every single right to draft Love when he did - that is his task and job put before him. Rodgers needs to consider and realize that the GM/Owners in the league have to always be looking to the future...this is why Dillon was drafted when his real need was a year away, Gary same way....and numerous others over the years. Gute had every right to release Kumerow, that is his job and very very few believe it was the wrong call anyways.

All that said, if I'm Gute I would be done letting Aaron dictate how the media thinks of me, fans think of me and rip this franchise apart. Even if Gute is 100% spotless clean of any blame in this whole thing (not true IMO), if Rodgers leaves his legacy will always circle around blowing the Franchise apart as it was known.

I'd hold a presser and let the media know that "I've spoken with Mr. Murphy and will not continue to allow a personal petty-grudge held towards myself by a player dictate and control my legacy or cause hate to be thrown at myself or my family (we know this is occurring). I'm extremely proud of the development and team constructed in my time while here - and whole heartedly had no intentions of trading Aaron Rodgers or not staying committed to him as I've said time and time again. Best of luck to the organization, my successor and even to Aaron. Should this organization ever need my services again in the future, I look forward to that discussion"

 

[Do7]

Hoo boy... I was trying my hardest to avoid this section but I'll go ahead and give my thoughts. This is what would we call a five alarm fire. I would astonished if we have Rodgers behind center this year. The sad part is I can see where BOTH sides are coming from. The issue is that the GM was kinda sorta betting against Rodgers, not playing up to this caliber and falling more towards the cliff. Based on the his final year with McCarthy and his mediocre (by HIS standards) in his first year with MLF, it appeared that the best of Rodgers was a thing of the past. Then this year happens and Rodgers has exceeded expectations and now he wants security. Now here's the thing, Rodgers isn't mad with Love, he understands he has to compete, and he's said time and time again that he's confident that NO ONE can beat him for the starting position. His issue with the FO is from his perspective their lack in dedication to winning a championship. You don't draft a backup QB in the first round if you are trying to win a championship. Last year told a lot of the direction The Packers wanted to head in, and while the GM is saying the right things, Rodgers from my understanding is like "prove it" in regards to his demands. And when he sees what he considers BS, he's fed up to the point that he's not willing to put up with it any further b/c been asked to make chicken salad out of chicken #### time and time again.

Now the question is going forward, do we believe Love's potential will be greater than that of a potential lower version of Rodgers. Keep in mind while Rodgers' ability may diminish, he still has arguably the best IQ when it comes to the game, only second to Brady. Rodgers is a one of a kind and I certainly would hate to see him go, especially a QB of his caliber only got 1 SB, but the way I see it this is kinda like a pissing contest at this point. I was a Packers fan long before Rodgers, and I shall be when he is gone.

 

[DoURant]

Wouldn't it be ironic if the Packers received a young 1st rd. WR, along with the speculated 2 or 3 1st rd picks back in a trade for Aaron Rodgers (Jeudy - Broncos, Ruggs- Raiders) Especially since the media has said they never draft a weapon for Aaron in Rd. 1

 

[PikeBadger]

Did Rodgers really hold a grudge against Favre, or was it the other way around?

Lol, probably both ways.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Did Rodgers really hold a grudge against Favre, or was it the other way around?

Favre tweeted him a **** pic and Rodgers laughed and had a scotch, all is good.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Wouldn't it be ironic if the Packers received a young 1st rd. WR, along with the speculated 2 or 3 1st rd picks back in a trade for Aaron Rodgers (Jeudy - Broncos, Ruggs- Raiders) Especially since the media has said they never draft a weapon for Aaron in Rd. 1

Alanis Morissette - Ironic (Official 4K Music Video) - YouTube

 

[Firethorn1001]

You know I could see this whole thing play out in a way I haven't seen...Gute steps down.

On the flip side, if I'm Aaron and it truly is Gute that is the issue, you just issue a statement. Something to the effect of not wanting to play for a GM that doesn't have faith in your abilities and was wanting to move away from me at the first opportunity. I would rather play for a GM that has faith in my abilities until the end of my career.

All the rumors/stuff floating around about messaging free agents that you won't be around, group chats with teammates, etc just makes it seem like he is just a raging a-hole. So, how does actually coming out and stating what is going on hurt?

If he is traded/retires I would expect that he will never show up in Green Bay ever again. Dude holds a grudge against some random college professor after all these years so.. this will never go away. After a certain number of grudges, it isn't a driver for motivation, it is just baggage miserable people carry around in life.

 

[AKCheese]

They’re talking 2 firsts and a second with Denver? I make that deal every single day!

 

[DoURant]

Lol, probably both ways.

No more rumors about both ways

 

[Mondio]

Favre tweeted him a **** pic and Rodgers laughed and had a scotch, all is good.

it was a pick of his new Crocs, that just happened to be in the way

 

[DoURant]

They’re talking 2 firsts and a second with Denver? I make that deal every single day!

I would ask for more to start with, don't want to go low in a negotiation, especially if a team is interested.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

it was a pick of his new Crocs, that just happened to be in the way

I thought I saw you on the group text list. Nice Crocs huh?

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Aaron called Gute Jerry Krause to teammates.
Brett said his gut says Aaron is done in Green Bay.

It's over.

 

[tynimiller]

Everything is shifting more and more to the "we are merely waiting for June 1" side of things.