Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[TEXPAC]

Seems like a petulant brat to me?

With him seeming to sabotage the free agents, they should let him retire if he wants to. They will get trade material in the future if they let him simmer a little anyway. Perhaps a $22 million lesion may help him mature a little?

 

[PikeBadger]

Aaron called Gute Jerry Krause to teammates.
Brett said his gut says Aaron is done in Green Bay.

It's over.

If true, that’s funny. Almost zero players on the team would understand that reference.

I must admit however that I have a difficult time believing anything that Bret Favre says.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[PackAttack12]

Sadly, I think we probably will get an answer to our debate, unless the Packers decide to call his bluff and he retires. If he is traded, we will get to see just how valuable he was to another team and like I said, my guess is that we get less than what some expect, especially those like yourself.

Let me ask you this, what do you predict (not expect or hope for) the Packers get in a trade, if one takes place?

If another team doesn't give up much, it won't be because of their perceived lack of willingness to allocate the resources to acquire him. Rather, it'll be because the Packers aren't in the best leverage situation.

In other words, if none of this ever came out and a team called for Rodgers, it would be multiple 1st round picks and whatever else is needed to make the salaries work. But I think no matter what, the Packers will get a 1st and a 3rd. Bare minimum. But like I said, if they don't, it's only because teams know the Packers might be desperate to offload him.

Rodgers just got done winning the MVP and is a franchise changing quarterback. There are teams that will do whatever is necessary.

Not sure if you saw the report or not, but John Lynch of the 49ers basically said that we called and were willing to offer just about anything to get him. Because he's Aaron Rodgers and he's arguably the best quarterback in the game. But that the Packers shut it down quickly and it was a brief conversation.

The 49ers aren't the only team out there that would get into this bidding war. But the only teams that will be involved are teams that Rodgers has made it known that he would be willing to go to.

 

[bigbubbatd]

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If this is true Rodgers needs to be gone. Interesting that Bahk signed an extension and lewis resigned if it is true

 

[PikeBadger]

Everything is shifting more and more to the "we are merely waiting for June 1" side of things.

I don’t have a problem with that. Gives both sides time to think and contemplate options and maybe even talk to one another.

 

[TEXPAC]

I don’t know if the management in GB has not opened a line of communication to Rodgers about all this.

If all of this it true, he needs to be gone and perhaps learn a lesson (the loss of $22 million) on the way out.

 

[longtimefan]

If true, that’s funny. Almost zero players on the team would understand that reference.

I must admit however that I have a difficult time believing anything that Bret Favre says.

Brett had 45 mins on local show

He had some history wrong with him lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If another team doesn't give up much, it won't be because of their perceived lack of willingness to allocate the resources to acquire him. Rather, it'll be because the Packers aren't in the best leverage situation.

In other words, if none of this ever came out and a team called for Rodgers, it would be multiple 1st round picks and whatever else is needed to make the salaries work. But I think no matter what, the Packers will get a 1st and a 3rd. Bare minimum. But like I said, if they don't, it's only because teams know the Packers might be desperate to offload him.

Rodgers just got done winning the MVP and is a franchise changing quarterback. There are teams that will do whatever is necessary.

Not sure if you saw the report or not, but John Lynch of the 49ers basically said that we called and were willing to offer just about anything to get him. Because he's Aaron Rodgers and he's arguably the best quarterback in the game. But that the Packers shut it down quickly and it was a brief conversation.

The 49ers aren't the only team out there that would get into this bidding war. But the only teams that will be involved are teams that Rodgers has made it known that he would be willing to go to.

Right, but I am not asking what he would have been worth had this not happened or that happened, I am asking you "How much will the Packers get in a trade now...in your opinion". I stated that they won't get the Kings Ransom that some might think that they will and you disagreed. Now it sounds like you are thinking more about the ifs, whys and buts of it?

I also stand by my prediction, the longer this drags out and the more crap that comes out that is negative about Rodgers, the less they get.

 

[TEXPAC]

If he truly did try and talk potential free agent out of signing with GB, perhaps renaming him “Benedict” Rodgers May work?????

I can’t stand all of this......

 

[TEXPAC]

I hate to say this......, but is that why he did not run the ball into the end zone on 3rd down at the end of the NFC Championship game??????

 

[PackAttack12]

His issue with the FO is from his perspective their lack in dedication to winning a championship. You don't draft a backup QB in the first round if you are trying to win a championship. Last year told a lot of the direction The Packers wanted to head in, and while the GM is saying the right things, Rodgers from my understanding is like "prove it" in regards to his demands.

Great post, Do7. Especially this portion. This essentially nails it for me. Rodgers has always been a good solider, but when you draft a quarterback that you hope to God won't see the field for 2020 and 3rd string running back with your first two picks, it doesn't exactly inspire belief that the organization's primary focus is to win a championship for 2020.

 

[PackAttack12]

Right, but I am not asking what he would have been worth had this not happened or that happened, I am asking you "How much will the Packers get in a trade now...in your opinion". I stated that they won't get the Kings Ransom that some might think that they will and you disagreed. Now it sounds like you are thinking more about the ifs, whys and buts of it?

I also stand by my prediction, the longer this drags out and the more crap that comes out that is negative about Rodgers, the less they get.

No I did not. I said that teams will not be reluctant to acquire Rodgers because of the laughable claim he would wreck the locker room or create chemistry issues. You're reading what you want to believe.

 

[PikeBadger]

If this is true Rodgers needs to be gone. Interesting that Bahk signed an extension and lewis resigned if it is true

And Aaron Jones reportedly took less money to stay in town.

 

[tynimiller]

Great post, Do7. Especially this portion. This essentially nails it for me. Rodgers has always been a good solider, but when you draft a quarterback that you hope to God won't see the field for 2020 and 3rd string running back with your first two picks, it doesn't exactly inspire belief that the organization's primary focus is to win a championship for 2020.

To counter this, and Gute was setting there trying to trade up for two WRs which he felt were worth the move - never came to be, and he had a TOP flight guy dropping past where in his opinion he had zero reason to be (right, wrong or indifferent). Gute saw a chance to grab a reserve plan for the future when no WR happened, on a QB that outside of tanking or having lightning strike twice would never have access to in a draft.

Both sides are not blameless and it is ignorant to think otherwise in my opinion.

Both sides are to blame and it is ignorant to think otherwise in my opinion.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

To counter this, and Gute was setting there trying to trade up for two WRs which he felt were worth the move - never came to be, and he had a TOP flight guy dropping past where in his opinion he had zero reason to be (right, wrong or indifferent). Gute saw a chance to grab a reserve plan for the future when no WR happened, on a QB that outside of tanking or having lightning strike twice would never have access to in a draft.

Both sides are not blameless and it is ignorant to think otherwise in my opinion.

Both sides are to blame and it is ignorant to think otherwise in my opinion.

Yep. Plenty of reports of how Gute truly tried his best to draft an elite WR. There were (I thought 3) he kept trying to trade for but teams wouldn't accept his offers. So, rather than trade down he said he couldn't pass up the chance to get a consensus top-5 QB in the draft (some scouts had him going #1 overall).

Nobody can logically blame Gute and nobody can logically blame Rodgers. However, at the end of the day Rodgers is an employee and it is unprofessional to throw a hissy fit in public.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Seems like a petulant brat to me?

With him seeming to sabotage the free agents, they should let him retire if he wants to. They will get trade material in the future if they let him simmer a little anyway. Perhaps a $22 million lesion may help him mature a little?

And that would help the Packers how, exactly? Yes, us fans will l can feel better about seeing some rich guy lose money while also watching the Packers lose games... I'm not seeing the logic here for the Packers.

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

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I consider myself neutral during this whole thing, just wishing that it would get resolved, as well as being a big fan of Aaron. With that being said, if this rumor as well as the one about him contacting potential FAs that could possibly have signed with us is true(that he wouldn't be here and not to sign with us), then I am over Aaron and unless Gute told Aaron they were going to trade him, then consider me firmly in the Gute's camp.

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I also think Skip made some good points here, and at the very least I now do think that drafting Love was a good move.

 

[TEXPAC]

And that would help the Packers how, exactly? Yes, us fans will l can feel better about seeing some rich guy lose money while also watching the Packers lose games... I'm not seeing the logic here for the Packers.

It would send the message that you don’t reward bad behavior....

 

[Sunshinepacker]

If another team doesn't give up much, it won't be because of their perceived lack of willingness to allocate the resources to acquire him. Rather, it'll be because the Packers aren't in the best leverage situation.

In other words, if none of this ever came out and a team called for Rodgers, it would be multiple 1st round picks and whatever else is needed to make the salaries work. But I think no matter what, the Packers will get a 1st and a 3rd. Bare minimum. But like I said, if they don't, it's only because teams know the Packers might be desperate to offload him.

Rodgers just got done winning the MVP and is a franchise changing quarterback. There are teams that will do whatever is necessary.

Not sure if you saw the report or not, but John Lynch of the 49ers basically said that we called and were willing to offer just about anything to get him. Because he's Aaron Rodgers and he's arguably the best quarterback in the game. But that the Packers shut it down quickly and it was a brief conversation.

The 49ers aren't the only team out there that would get into this bidding war. But the only teams that will be involved are teams that Rodgers has made it known that he would be willing to go to.

If Rogers continues to show zero willingness to play for the Packers then I would assume the Packers' stance will change as the season approaches. Packers have nothing to gain by watching Rodgers sit out the year, except cap room which you can't use to buy wins.

There's no reason for the Packers to trade the best QB ever while they have any hope of salvaging the relationship, which is where they're at right now.

 

[TEXPAC]

And that would help the Packers how, exactly? Yes, us fans will l can feel better about seeing some rich guy lose money while also watching the Packers lose games... I'm not seeing the logic here for the Packers.

How many games do you think we will win if we cave in to this behavior? Besides I am not all that certain the the Pack can’t win a fair amount of games without him....?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

It would send the message that you don’t reward bad behavior....

No it won't. Jalen Ramsey has proved it does work. If you honestly think professional sports stars, who are rightfully egotistical, will think for one second that THEY can't do something another player has done, then you haven't been paying much attention to how sports stars behave.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

How many games do you think we will win if we cave in to this behavior? Besides I am not all that certain the the Pack can’t win a fair amount of games without him....?

Packers would win the NFC North and challenge for the 1-seed with Rodgers. Without Rodgers I doubt they make the playoffs.

 

[TEXPAC]

No it won't. Jalen Ramsey has proved it does work. If you honestly think professional sports stars, who are rightfully egotistical, will think for one second that THEY can't do something another player has done, then you haven't been paying much attention to how sports stars behave.

I still believe that the coaches, other players and management are just as much a part of the recent successes as the BIG DOG!

LET THAT PERSON GO....

BTW - He has not WON an NFC Championship in a few years..... much less a Super Bowl.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I still believe that the coaches, other players and management are just as much a part of the recent successes as the BIG DOG!

LET THAT PERSON GO....

BTW - He has not WON an NFC Championship in a few years..... much less a Super Bowl.

Here's the difference, other front offices are really good too. There are more good front office personnel than there are best quarterbacks ever.

We're getting a little far afield. Whether your side with management or Rodgers, just letting Rodgers retire rather than trading him is the kind of move a terrible front office would make.