Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

Geez, there are still people out there who truly believe Rodgers showing up for OTAs last season would have made a difference

I truly wonder how the team was able to secure the #1 seed in the NFC in 2021 while he didn't report until training camp at all.

Geez there are still fans that think this is all about and only about Aaron Rodgers performance, nothing else. That has a familiar ring to it, oh yes, that is how Aaron thinks!

Sorry, but after what Rodgers put the Packers organization and fans through in 2021, as well as the Packers throwing him even more money, the guy can't show up for OTA's and then reportedly shows up for camp out of shape. This isn't just about Rodgers not showing up for OTA's, it is about a guy that has obviously put himself ahead of the team. So please stop trying to defend Rodgers by saying "well he did this and the Packers did that, so that must mean this is true". It isn't even the point and in many cases, it is a stretch at best.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

He's out, after only 2 days.

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[AKCheese]

Geez, there are still people out there who truly believe Rodgers showing up for OTAs last season would have made a difference

I truly wonder how the team was able to secure the #1 seed in the NFC in 2021 while he didn't report until training camp at all.

A lot of luck as evidenced by losing at home in their first playoff game “ oooh ooh oooh we just need to get people to Lambeau - ooooh oooh oooh we need that first round bye”

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Geez there are still fans that think this is all about and only about Aaron Rodgers performance, nothing else. That has a familiar ring to it, oh yes, that is how Aaron thinks!

Sorry, but after what Rodgers put the Packers organization and fans through in 2021, as well as the Packers throwing him even more money, the guy can't show up for OTA's and then reportedly shows up for camp out of shape. This isn't just about Rodgers not showing up for OTA's, it is about a guy that has obviously put himself ahead of the team. So please stop trying to defend Rodgers by saying "well he did this and the Packers did that, so that must mean this is true". It isn't even the point and in many cases, it is a stretch at best.

The Packers organization was ready to make Rodgers the highest player after all the "drama" he put them through during the 2021 offseason. It's pretty obvious they were ready to move on from it yet you seem to believe it should still been considered a huge issue.

I don't put any stock into McGinn reporting that Rodgers showed up to camp out of shape. He seems to have taken care of his body extremely well over his entire career, therefore I highly doubt there's any truth to it.

I'm still waiting for an explanation how it was possible for the Packers to secure the #1 seed in the NFC in 2021 after Rodgers didn't show up until camp. According to you that should have been an impossible achievement after he missed the oh-so important offseason practices.

A lot of luck as evidenced by losing at home in their first playoff game “ oooh ooh oooh we just need to get people to Lambeau - ooooh oooh oooh we need that first round bye”

It's utter BS to consider luck was a major factor in the Packers securing the #1 seed in 2021.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm still waiting for an explanation how it was possible for the Packers to secure the #1 seed in the NFC in 2021 after Rodgers didn't show up until camp.

But they didnt win a SB 2 years ago .....and they went 8-9 when he didn't show up for OTA's in 2022 and they won a Super Bowl in 2010 when he did and they......

Again, for maybe the 12th or so time, you can run excuses, as well as cause and effects, for Rodgers, all day long, using his "performance" as your motivator to turn a blind eye to the man's actions. However, it doesn't change the fact that the guy places himself way ahead of the team, sets bad examples and a lot of people notice it and are disgusted/fed up by it.

 

[Mondio]

It's a fact that's how some see it, but from player interviews, actions on the field, flow of games and seasons, I think it's merely a self fed opinion of those fans that Rodgers has placed himself above the team.

and OTA's are for players that need checking in on, lower motivation, weight issues, injuries, and rookies. Watch a "practice" sometime. It's not even a glorified walk thru.

 

[longtimefan]

It's a fact that's how some see it, but from player interviews, actions on the field, flow of games and seasons, I think it's merely a self fed opinion of those fans that Rodgers has placed himself above the team.

and OTA's are for players that need checking in on, lower motivation, weight issues, injuries, and rookies. Watch a "practice" sometime. It's not even a glorified walk thru.

Rookies get with coaches to learn things. For me it would be nice if the leader was there to help

That's just how some feel. Doesnt mean it is wrong it's a personal opinion

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rookies get with coaches to learn things. For me it would be nice if the leader was there to help

That's just how some feel. Doesnt mean it is wrong it's a personal opinion

Good point and maybe a better way to put it. I would like someone to tell my why someone feels it would have been wrong for Aaron to show up for OTA's. I don't want to hear "because he risks injury". If that is the what the team is worried about, then don't let him do anything but verbally participate or wrap him in bubble wrap until the 1st game of the regular season. He had a greater chance of getting hurt in Hawaii, than at OTA's.

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[OldSchool101]

He's out, after only 2 days.

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I saw a Shadow! Doesn’t that mean 6 more weeks of Cold weather games?!

 

[OldSchool101]

Rookies get with coaches to learn things. For me it would be nice if the leader was there to help

That's just how some feel. Doesnt mean it is wrong it's a personal opinion

It’s also how MLF says he felt. I’m just guessing that if the HC wants you to show up? then just show up already. Matt was specifically asked about Aaron Rodgers not being present. If he didn’t think it was important? he’d say so. He didn’t he said he’d love to have him and missed Aaron’s presence. Preparation is everything in Sports and Aaron Rodgers is not some lone exception.

Go look at what Patrick Mahomes did last season. He called private practices with his players and it’s factual. Call it OTA or whatever, Off season is offseason and yes The 2023 MVP spent time with his players in OTA. There’s a reason KC finished #1 and early preparation plays a key role. If folks didn’t learn that yet, we never will.

5000+ yards. MVP. Super Bowl Champion are the result of FULL preparation. Pat lost his WR1 and decided to go full throttle with his new hands at WR and his effort paid BIG dividends.

 

[Half Empty]

A lot of luck as evidenced by losing at home in their first playoff game “ oooh ooh oooh we just need to get people to Lambeau - ooooh oooh oooh we need that first round bye”

Quit rubbing it in to us old guys who remember when this was true.

 

[Mondio]

Rookies get with coaches to learn things. For me it would be nice if the leader was there to help

That's just how some feel. Doesnt mean it is wrong it's a personal opinion

And there is nothing wrong with having that opinion. Fine, you think he should be there.

I dont think anybody has a problem with that. The disconnect comes in when it comes to how important it is.

I happen to think they’re semi important to new guys, rookies and injured. I’ve seen the intensity of those OTAs. 3 reps in training camp surpass all otas lol

 

[longtimefan]

And there is nothing wrong with having that opinion. Fine, you think he should be there.

I dont think anybody has a problem with that. The disconnect comes in when it comes to how important it is.

I happen to think they’re semi important to new guys, rookies and injured. I’ve seen the intensity of those OTAs. 3 reps in training camp surpass all otas lol

Do you think it would benefit rookies at all? And I am not referring to walk throughs or any installation of anything

Ota s isnt meant to get in shape

 

[Mondio]

Do you think it would benefit rookies at all? And I am not referring to walk throughs or any installation of anything

Ota s isnt meant to get in shape

Yes, I’ve said repeatedly it’s for new guys to the team, rookies, and injured guys for health checks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Do you think it would benefit rookies at all? And I am not referring to walk throughs or any installation of anything

Ota s isnt meant to get in shape

Interesting to listen to Hall of Famer Joe Klecko talk about how Rodgers would fit or may I say "wouldn't fit" with the Jets:

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Lots of things happening and rumors floating around in the
NFL. The good "rumor" for the Packers is that Derek Carr might be asking for more money then at least one team is willing to offer.

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[OldSchool101]

Lots of things happening and rumors floating around in the
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$35m? Maybe we should sign him.
Ask him if he’d show up to OTA’s

 

[Pkrjones]

$35m? Maybe we should sign him.
Ask him if he’d show up to OTA’s

Don't ever, ever say this again, even in jest!!!!! . Don't want word to get back to Gute that the fan-base would accept such a move.

 

[longtimefan]

Yes, I’ve said repeatedly it’s for new guys to the team, rookies, and injured guys for health checks.

I was asking Rodgers with rookies at ota


So you agree.

OK..so I implied rodgers at ota benefits rookies

 

[OldSchool101]

Don't ever, ever say this again, even in jest!!!!! . Don't want word to get back to Gute that the fan-base would accept such a move.

Yes sir I’ll never let it happen again. Ive been around Trevor Davis too much, It was like making a bomb joke at the airport.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yes sir I’ll never let it happen again. Ive been around Trevor Davis too much, It was like making a bomb joke at the airport.

Trevor Davis, yet another guy that spent multiple years (4) in Green Bay, parading as a roster WR with potential. He had 9 receptions as a Packer and then does squat once he's traded/released and out of the NFL.

 

[OldSchool101]

Trevor Davis, yet another guy that spent multiple years (4) in Green Bay, parading as a roster WR with potential. He had 9 receptions as a Packer and then does squat once he's traded/released and out of the NFL.

We tend to do hold onto players a little too long and particularly at Receiver. I suppose other teams do it also so it’s an observation more than a complaint.

As much as I pound on #12, Until the 2022 draft, we just didn’t give him very impressive Receiver resources. Even when we desperately needed a WR (and I loved the Watson pick) but he was what the 7th WR selected? Anyway, we had a ton of draft capital and got the 6-7th choice?

Then we could’ve just been semi aggressive and used #28 on Watson and kept our 2nd rounders. Why trade with Vikings? Really? That’s our #1 enemy it’s like trading with Adolfe

In Round 2 we could’ve used a 4th or 5th in trade and had basically any WR named Pickens, Moore, Pierce. We still had another 2nd Rounder to apply to OLB (Sam Williams) or TE (McBride) or OT (Goedke) etc.

Instead? We draft a good but raw DT with some character speculation and then sit him on the bench 3 deep on depth. If we didn’t think he was ready to contribute using a First Rounder and in a Win Now? Why draft him?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We tend to do hold onto players a little too long and particularly at Receiver. I suppose other teams do it also so it’s an observation more than a complaint.

As of the last 4-5 seasons, the Packers have held on to them, because they have nothing better. We are also not always talking about #5 and #6 spots on the WR depth chart. Some of these guys, that slowly went away, were higher on the depth chart at times. Very few of these guys are going to another team and having a successful career. MVS is the only one that comes to mind and he was probably our #2 guy when he left and I don't really think he was worth what KC paid him.

I can't say it enough, the back half of Rodgers career is always going to be remembered for the Packers not providing him enough receiving weapons.

 

[gopkrs]

As of the last 4-5 seasons, the Packers have held on to them, because they have nothing better.

I think we have had options over the past several years and either the coaches don't give them a real chance (except in preseason where they do well, so what's the point). or Rodgers is too picky and his mind is already made up about players and routes before the ball is hiked or the coaches have their special guys and others are left out.

 

[OldSchool101]

As of the last 4-5 seasons, the Packers have held on to them, because they have nothing better. We are also not always talking about #5 and #6 spots on the WR depth chart. Some of these guys, that slowly went away, were higher on the depth chart at times. Very few of these guys are going to another team and having a successful career. MVS is the only one that comes to mind and he was probably our #2 guy when he left and I don't really think he was worth what KC paid him.

I can't say it enough, the back half of Rodgers career is always going to be remembered for the Packers not providing him enough receiving weapons.

Yeah. #12 actually performed admirable when we factor applied resources at TE or WR. One of the higher selections on Offense was AJ Dillon. Obviously #17 was a 2nd Rounder, but that was 9 drafts ago, which is an eternity.

I think I understand what our FO was doing. They had a QB that was going to hold his own even with a slightly below league average expenditure on Offensive resources. That way they could build up a prolific Defense. One problem was we couldn’t get out of our own way, we’d finish just shy of a SB in multiple seasons and it left us selecting leftovers in consecutive drafts. Then we did an adequate to below average job selecting, developing and properly utilizing our draft picks.


We brought in Davante Adams and Elgton Jenkins and AJ Dillon, but aside from that was some just plain misses (Spriggs) in Day 2. Across how many drafts did we consistently try to use late 4th-7th Rounders to supply our Offense?

That would’ve been ok had we struck Gold in the draft or if we had a Defensive scheme that had stability and adaptability to the times. We really didn’t do well at either. Haha Dix? Datone Jones, Darnell a savage? Then ran 6-7 man boxes and played not to lose. Also, We missed as much or more than we hit on more recent guys like Clark, J’aire or Gary.