Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Heyjoe4]

Carr is available in the market, that is 100%. Rodgers may or may not be available with an undetermined time of when he may or may not be available. With QB being the most important position on the field, if they view Carr as an acceptable option, no reason to wait so, in that regards the entire darkness retreat can be blamed. But really, Rodgers could have just said, "I'm going to the local comic store, drinking Mountain Dew for 4 days straight and staying up reading Archie and Jughead so don't bother me" same impact.. unavailable for 4 days while the NFL chugs along.

I really hope this is the last offseason of this drama junk.

Here here. Or maybe Rodgers could just shut the **** up.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Carr is available in the market, that is 100%. Rodgers may or may not be available with an undetermined time of when he may or may not be available. With QB being the most important position on the field, if they view Carr as an acceptable option, no reason to wait so, in that regards the entire darkness retreat can be blamed. But really, Rodgers could have just said, "I'm going to the local comic store, drinking Mountain Dew for 4 days straight and staying up reading Archie and Jughead so don't bother me" same impact.. unavailable for 4 days while the NFL chugs along.

I really hope this is the last offseason of this drama junk.

Well said.

I think some people are under the impression that nothing happens in the NFL until the new league year starts and thus they would argue that there is very little importance to the Packers as to what Rodgers is doing or deciding. I agree that the darkness thing is just a meaningless distraction and the real issue is that he has chosen to leave his team in the dark, of what I personally consider a very important decision in which directions the team takes. To think that the Packers will do every thing the same, no matter what Rodgers decides, isn't understanding the inner workings of the team or the importance that Rodgers decision has on its operation.

Not sure if it was a meme or something I read in an article, but I tend to agree, Aaron Rodgers is "the hot girl, that constantly needs to be reminded that he is the hottest one in the room."

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I see Carr being a bit like Matthew Stafford, stuck in a organization and once out, he thrived and helped the Rams win a SB. The Jets might think the same thing and know that with Carr, they have several years to figure it out. The problem with Rodgers, he will cost them more to obtain, in both draft picks (zero for Carr) and salary. To top that off, they may only get him for 1 year. Rodgers at the top of his game, might have been the best option for a team like the Jets, but I would be signing Carr and using the money and the draft picks saved from not trading for Rodgers, to improve the team elsewhere.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I see Carr being a bit like Matthew Stafford, stuck in a organization and once out, he thrived and helped the Rams win a SB. The Jets might think the same thing and know that with Carr, they have several years to figure it out. The problem with Rodgers, he will cost them more to obtain, in both draft picks (zero for Carr) and salary. To top that off, they may only get him for 1 year. Rodgers at the top of his game, might have been the best option for a team like the Jets, but I would be signing Carr and using the money and the draft picks saved from not trading for Rodgers, to improve the team elsewhere.

Yeah that's a reasonable assessment. The Jets have made all the right personnel moves, with the exception of QB. Carr isn't Rodgers but he's good enough to get this Jets team to 11 wins, certainly the playoffs. And as you note, save draft capital and $$$ for when they need it to keep their FAs. That's how a team keeps on winning year to year. The Jets don't have to spend $60 mil on a 39 y/o QB.

 

[JPPT1974]

Like him as a player but as a person, not so much. Fame and money can do that to you.

 

[Schultz]

IMO. No team interested in Rodgers will sign Carr or any other QB until after Rodgers makes his decision and they speak to Gute. IMO.

 

[Heyjoe4]

IMO. No team interested in Rodgers will sign Carr or any other QB until after Rodgers makes his decision and they speak to Gute. IMO.

Makes sense. What's the rush? The player will make sure they get what is best for them as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

IMO. No team interested in Rodgers will sign Carr or any other QB until after Rodgers makes his decision and they speak to Gute. IMO.

While i understand that logic, if there are several teams interested in both Carr and Rodgers, I wouldn't want to be the team to miss out on one of them. Plus, with Carr, he's free today, to commit to a team. Rodgers, not so much.

 

[gopkrs]

While i understand that logic, if there are several teams interested in both Carr and Rodgers, I wouldn't want to be the team to miss out on one of them. Plus, with Carr, he's free today, to commit to a team. Rodgers, not so much.

I just don't get the Carr stuff. Give Love a chance.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I just don't get the Carr stuff. Give Love a chance.

I wasn't implying that the Packers sign Carr. I'd prefer to see what Love has too.

 

[AKCheese]

I see Carr being a bit like Matthew Stafford, stuck in a organization and once out, he thrived and helped the Rams win a SB. The Jets might think the same thing and know that with Carr, they have several years to figure it out. The problem with Rodgers, he will cost them more to obtain, in both draft picks (zero for Carr) and salary. To top that off, they may only get him for 1 year. Rodgers at the top of his game, might have been the best option for a team like the Jets, but I would be signing Carr and using the money and the draft picks saved from not trading for Rodgers, to improve the team elsewhere.

Sadly for us that makes sooooooo much sense. Lets hope the Jets (or someone) is too foolish to see this!!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

He isn't a guy who plays his best when the pressure is on. 4 losses in the NFCCG, now two were blowouts, but they certainly should have beaten the Hags in 2014 and the Bucs a few years back. The Hags fiasco can be blamed mostly on MM, but Rodgers was in position to pick up some game winning first downs to kill time with a lead, and failed. And I'm not even counting the divisional loss to the Niners where they didn't score an offensive TD.

The Packers defense gave up an average of 35 points per game in those four NFCCG losses. It's awfully tough winning in the regular season allowing that many points but close to impossible to do it in the playoffs.

During the 2014 NFCCG at Seattle the Packers got the ball twice while leading 19-7 with under seven minutes to go but McCarthy decided to run the ball on five of those six plays. Hardly Rodgers fault they weren't able to kill the clock in those situations.

He was surrounded with offensive talent last year. Not sure about his Oline, but he certainly was stacked with skill players around him.

Carr definintely needs to by surrounded by an elite defense to win a Super Bowl. The Raiders unit struggled, finishing 26th in points allowed last season though.

I agree if Carr had talent ALL around him - offense, defense, STs - he could manage a team to a SB. Trent Dilfer did it in Tampa.

Carr is a significant upgrade over Dilfer. He won't be able to carry a team to a Super Bowl either though.

I think some people are under the impression that nothing happens in the NFL until the new league year starts and thus they would argue that there is very little importance to the Packers as to what Rodgers is doing or deciding. I agree that the darkness thing is just a meaningless distraction and the real issue is that he has chosen to leave his team in the dark, of what I personally consider a very important decision in which directions the team takes. To think that the Packers will do every thing the same, no matter what Rodgers decides, isn't understanding the inner workings of the team or the importance that Rodgers decision has on its operation.

You fail to understand that the Packers aren't standing pat while waiting on Rodgers to inform them about their decision. I'm absolutely convinced that they have talked to several teams about possible compensation for him if they want to trade him this offseason.

If you need some evidence for that happening just take a look at the Broncos trading for Wilson last year. It's pretty obvious they preferred to acquire Rodgers but once the Packers announced they signed their quarterback to an extension it took them only hours to finalize a deal for Wilson. Do you honestly believe they didn't talk to the Seahawks before the Packers made it clear Rodgers wasn't available? No, they actually had a deal already in place if Rodgers stayed in Green Bay.

I see Carr being a bit like Matthew Stafford, stuck in a organization and once out, he thrived and helped the Rams win a SB. The Jets might think the same thing and know that with Carr, they have several years to figure it out. The problem with Rodgers, he will cost them more to obtain, in both draft picks (zero for Carr) and salary. To top that off, they may only get him for 1 year. Rodgers at the top of his game, might have been the best option for a team like the Jets, but I would be signing Carr and using the money and the draft picks saved from not trading for Rodgers, to improve the team elsewhere.

That's a reasonable take on why the Jets might prefer to sign Carr. Rodgers having already made his decision wouldn't change a single thing about it though.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I wasn't implying that the Packers sign Carr. I'd prefer to see what Love has too.

Right, it's time to "Give Love a Chance". Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm a John Lennon fan. Somebody must have already written that bit.

 

[longtimefan]

Jason wilde had a lot to say

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[Firethorn1001]

Jason wilde had a lot to say

Pretty strong from Wilde given his general aww shucks nature and relationship with Rodgers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Right, it's time to "Give Love a Chance". Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm a John Lennon fan. Somebody must have already written that bit.

I could be wrong, but I think Lennon wrote "Give Peace a Chance".

Yes, lots of Love "bits" and more to come I am sure.

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[Schultz]

Right, it's time to "Give Love a Chance". Sorry, couldn't resist and I'm a John Lennon fan. Somebody must have already written that bit.

Obviously AR is more of a Simon & Garfunkel guy. "Hello darkness my old friend"

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Obviously AR is more of a Simon & Garfunkel guy. "Hello darkness my old friend"

Yes, but more this version of the S & G song:

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Jason wilde had a lot to say

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He let it rip for sure! Of course, he is just a blowhard fan that is out of touch with reality, what does he know!?

 

[thequick12]

I agree with what you say, but the 4 day darkness retreat? That's something I'd rather he kept to himself. He makes himself look like a head case. Well, he is a head case. And as you note, he's still a very talented QB. But IMO he's on his last contract, unless he's traded and agrees to a new contract. Doubt it.

If you dont think they'll be a place for Rodgers in the NFL as long as he wants Im not sure what youve been watching...he threw on target over 80% of the time in a down year in 2022. Which like he said are career years for other guys. If the team had dropped even half as many passes, the Packers make the playoffs. They dropped over 7%

 

[rmontro]

But really, Rodgers could have just said, "I'm going to the local comic store, drinking Mountain Dew for 4 days straight and staying up reading Archie and Jughead so don't bother me" same impact.. unavailable for 4 days while the NFL chugs along.

If he had said that there would be guys here complaining about him reading Archie comic books. I honestly don't care about the personal stuff, unless it affects on field performance. I'm not getting invested in all the drama, if he's our quarterback, great. If he gets traded, I'll root for Love. Either way, I don't see us getting back to the Super Bowl anytime soon, but I'd love to be wrong on that.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I could be wrong, but I think Lennon wrote "Give Peace a Chance".

Yes, lots of Love "bits" and more to come I am sure.

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How could I miss that? Thanks! It's "All You Need is Love" and indeed, "Give Peace a Chance".

 

[rmontro]

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[longtimefan]

He let it rip for sure! Of course, he is just a blowhard fan that is out of touch with reality, what does he know!?

Jason tends to let some snips out..maybe he knows something

 

[Deleted member 6794]

He let it rip for sure! Of course, he is just a blowhard fan that is out of touch with reality, what does he know!?

Geez, there are still people out there who truly believe Rodgers showing up for OTAs last season would have made a difference

I truly wonder how the team was able to secure the #1 seed in the NFC in 2021 while he didn't report until training camp at all.