Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[gopkrs]

Who says anyone owes anyone anything? Rodgers doesn't owe the Packers anything. The Packers paid him a huge sum of money to play football at a high level and he did that for many many years. Obligation fulfilled.

Disagree with this. The contract is not fulfilled

 

[Poppa San]

Don't know how true it is but a buddy of mine just called to say that the broncos and Packers are quietly working on a deal for Rogers behind the scenes. NFL Network maybe?

is this the same rumor as yesterday?

 

[RRyder]

Don't know how true it is but a buddy of mine just called to say that the broncos and Packers are quietly working on a deal for Rogers behind the scenes. NFL Network maybe?

That came out yesterday and the moment the Packers drafted Stokes I'd say it's pretty safe to say wasn't true

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Don't know how true it is but a buddy of mine just called to say that the broncos and Packers are quietly working on a deal for Rogers behind the scenes. NFL Network maybe?

It is the trade that makes the most sense (for both teams and player) to me.

• Broncos need a QB and could be quite good with Rodgers.
• Broncos are an AFC team
• Broncos have cap space
• Rodgers’ fiancée, Shailene Woodley lives in Boulder
  
• Rodgers names the Broncos as one of the teams he prefers

I don't buy the theory that the deal is already done or that the "Broncos drafted Surtain and he will go to the Packers in the deal. If that was the case, then Stokes was a luxury use of a first round pick.

Will this deal get done? If it is, I think the sooner the better, as well as the sooner, the more the Packers will get in the trade.

I would have preferred picks in this years draft, simply because you know what they are. If Rodgers vastly improves the Broncos, which I think he will, future picks will most likely be worth less.

May be if they pull a deal off today, the Packers get a future #1 (or 2) and the Broncos #40 and/or #71 in this draft.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

Let's say these rumors aren't even true. Do fans even want Araon back at this point and vice versa? This shitstorm has led to many fans turning their backs on Aaron regardless of what happens, so why keep a player like that on a team...especially the Packers?

 

[Mondio]

Let's say these rumors aren't even true. Do fans even want Araon back at this point and vice versa? This shitstorm has led to many fans turning their backs on Aaron regardless of what happens, so why keep a player like that on a team...especially the Packers?

well, if the rumors aren't true, why should anybody be mad? because the media started stuff again? and even if he is mad he didn't get a new contract, so what. Neither one of us are standing up in each others weddings, he's a great QB and I expect he'd put in the effort like he always does because that's who he is. I want him to be the QB of this team, unless he doesn't want to be. Then i hope he's happy wherever he ends up and I'll cheer for the next guy.

 

[gopkrs]

Let's say these rumors aren't even true. Do fans even want Araon back at this point and vice versa? This shitstorm has led to many fans turning their backs on Aaron regardless of what happens, so why keep a player like that on a team...especially the Packers?

Well I certainly want him back for at least this year. I've said all along that time will tell for the rest. I don't like the soap opera ****. And I hope mgmnt takes a hard line on it.

 

[AmishMafia]

Nice. So reports say it but since it doesnt fit your narrative you dont believe it.

What's funny is its the same sources as the other info, which he believes.

 

[red4tribe]

Can someone who knows more about the salary cap explain how trading Rodgers would work? Wouldn't it be a massive cap hit?

 

[longtimefan]

Tj lang feels this isnt true at all and he would have been gone by now if it were true.

 

[Mondio]

Can someone who knows more about the salary cap explain how trading Rodgers would work? Wouldn't it be a massive cap hit?

from what I heard it's about the same either way in terms of cap. 30 some million if he's traded accelerates to cap, 30 some million if he plays for prorated cap and salary combined. So not a big difference in the end other than we'd be without a HOF QB on the roster this year.

 

[scotty]

“Keeping Aaron Rodgers happy is not a nuisance. It is a critical part of the job for anybody running the Packers. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst has done a lot right, but he has botched this.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/30/aaron-rodgers-wants-out-packers-gutekunst-only-themselves-to-blame

 

[sschind]

Disagree with this. The contract is not fulfilled

How has it not been fulfilled? If you are talking about the last three years of the most recent contract it hasn't been fulfilled yet because its impossible to pay non guaranteed money money for or perform services in the future. Neither side has fulfilled the remaining 3 years of that deal because the remaining three years are just that...remaining.. Are you saying that Rodgers has not been paid a huge amount of money thus far in his career? Rogers has been given all the guaranteed money promised to him in the contract. The last of which was the 6.8 million dollar roster bonus. It is also pretty much accepted that he will be, or at least was to have been until recent event cast a shadow on it, the QB in 2021 giving him another 14.7 million. The 25 million due in 2022 and 2023 was never guaranteed but even that the Packers have given no indication they don't plan on honoring. In fact, if reports that the Packers offered an extension are true then that would indicate they plan not only to honor that part of the contract but more. In fact, if you believe the reports that Rodgers has said he doesn't want to come back to the Packers you could construe that as Rodgers not wanting to honor the last two years (three actually if he wants out now) of the contract he signed.

I don't know what to believe but if we take all reports at face value Aaron Rodgers is the one who doesn't want Aaron Rodgers to be the QB of the Green Bay Packers anymore, not the team. He said he doesn't want to come back, the team has not said they don't want him back. In fact they have said the opposite.

 

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[sschind]

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If you are going to keep posting crap like this and making me listen I'm going to have to put you on ignore.

Of course Pat McAfee is going to take Aarons side because Aaron is a regular on his show and gets him lots of hits. He was also a player so I would expect him to take a players side.

Then Mark Sclereth claims to not be a reporter sniffing out a story or a news breaker but what is the first thing he does when he hears a rumor? He reports it and breaks the news. What a tool.

I'm also not sure what the intent was of the reaction to Aaron saying "Ill let you know when I know" like it was some sort of big announcement. Since he didn't pour cold water on the idea that he wants out we should probably assume that is true because we all know that players are honest about everything while teams are deceitful.

If I'm a GM and a player comes to me and says "I don't want to be here anymore" along with trying to figure out why and seeing if there is something I can do to fix it I might just start reaching out to teams who may be interested and I sure as heck wouldn't say "gee I'm sorry to hear that I'll call the Broncos right away and see what we can arrange" I just might just keep that my little secret.

I'll add my name to the list of people who don't want Rodgers to leave for many years but I'm not going to cry over it if he forces his way out. If he does I just hope the Packers come out of it with a boatload and don't get hosed because Rodgers holds them hostage and teams think they are desperate. I am a fan of the team and no one player above it.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

“Keeping Aaron Rodgers happy is not a nuisance. It is a critical part of the job for anybody running the Packers. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst has done a lot right, but he has botched this.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/30/aaron-rodgers-wants-out-packers-gutekunst-only-themselves-to-blame

Funny I just got done reading that

I think what's just frustrating about this whole thing is it's hard to say what's only rumor and what isn't.

Right now my biggest question is whether or not Gute is lying. He says he never even considered trading Rodgers this offseason, and just last night even said he wasn't going to do it period. Problem is why does the media keep running with that? And why are they still saying things like Packers are secretly working on negotiations with Denver right now? Could be a case of the GM thinking he's going to get his cake and eat it too.

I'll just say if Rodgers ends up going, neither he nor the front office is going to look good. Is his frustration solely because of Jordan Love and feeling that the Packers are already trying to force him out to put their guy in at QB?

If so, I would probably send Love off if it was enough to make the situation more equitable and thereby guarantee Gute meant what he said about how much he values Rodgers. Yeah it would suck that a first round pick got wasted, but if the end result was getting a SB win within this season or next, we'll only have made a small sacrifice of one player and just postponed replacing Rodgers for a little longer.

Now if Rodgers is frustrated with things beyond that such as disliking LaFleur more than I thought, or having a change of heart about retiring as a Packer, or something else... well in that case the only option would be to trade him.

But if we are to get an equitable situation worked out for Rodgers to return, it's going to have to be done fast.

 

[RepStar15]

I just wish Aaron Rodgers would come out and tell the world what he wants. I just keep scratching my head here.
The offense was great last year, almost record breaking. What more does he want around him? Would Chase Claypool have given you that Superbowl? I do not know would he have been against Scottie Miller on 4th down with 3 seconds in the second half? Would he have helped Rodgers feel more confident to run the ball into the end zone on 3rd down when he had a clear lane to score a 4th quarter TD?

He is 36 year old. You are a professional athlete. Outside of maybe baseball, in what world does ANY team in most sports, let alone football, give a long term commitment to a player that is 36. Brees and Brady have been on 1-2 year contracts since they were 35.

He is upset they drafted Jordan Love. What makes you above the rest of the team? Every player has to deal with other players at their position being drafted. A team does not draft to make one player happy, they draft to create a roster. Especially the irony here as he was drafted to a team with a starting QB.
Is Aaron Rodgers the most petty person on the planet? Is the media making a mountain out of a mole hill?

If the media is blowing a contract dispute out of proportion, where are QB1's balls to step up and say, "Look, I want more money. That is it. I do not know where all these rumors I want out are coming from."
If the media is not blowing this out of proportion, where are QB1's balls to step up and say what he feels, "Look, I am pissed at this organization for XYZ, so I want out."

Instead, he has single handedly ruined something his teammates and fans should be excited for: the NFL draft. Gute has told us what we want to know from a packer management perspective, "We are not trading Aaron Rodgers." What is your move #12? I am honestly sick of your off the field antics. Grow a pair. Stop "leaking" information OR put a stop to the information that is "being leaked."

 

[Zartan]

If you are going to keep posting crap like this and making me listen I'm going to have to put you on ignore.

Of course Pat McAfee is going to take Aarons side because Aaron is a regular on his show and gets him lots of hits. He was also a player so I would expect him to take a players side.

Then Mark Sclereth claims to not be a reporter sniffing out a story or a news breaker but what is the first thing he does when he hears a rumor? He reports it and breaks the news. What a tool.

I'm also not sure what the intent was of the reaction to Aaron saying "Ill let you know when I know" like it was some sort of big announcement. Since he didn't pour cold water on the idea that he wants out we should probably assume that is true because we all know that players are honest about everything while teams are deceitful.

If I'm a GM and a player comes to me and says "I don't want to be here anymore" along with trying to figure out why and seeing if there is something I can do to fix it I might just start reaching out to teams who may be interested and I sure as heck wouldn't say "gee I'm sorry to hear that I'll call the Broncos right away and see what we can arrange" I just might just keep that my little secret.

I'll add my name to the list of people who don't want Rodgers to leave for many years but I'm not going to cry over it if he forces his way out. If he does I just hope the Packers come out of it with a boatload and don't get hosed because Rodgers holds them hostage and teams think they are desperate. I am a fan of the team and no one player above it.

Why are you getting upset at someone posting news? I personally dont believe a trade is in the works with anyone, as the dead cap hit is just too much. MaAfee has close contact with Rodgers so

 

[Firethorn1001]

I don't agree with Florio.. well.. almost never, but agree with this:

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"The Packers could be banking on Rodgers continuing to deal in words that reflect ambiguity and passive-aggression. He loves to send messages through carefully-chosen comments, and then he gets pissy when reporters realize what he’s actually saying, and when they say so. That approach isn’t going to get him what he wants, if as reported he wants out.

If he wants out, he needs to say something more than “my future is a beautiful mystery” or whatever else he has said in a vague way before acting like he didn’t drop a proverbial (or literal) turd in the punch bowl. Put simply, he needs to become as clear and direct about his objectives for his future football career as he’s been about his objectives for his potential career as the host of Jeopardy!"

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

He is upset they drafted Jordan Love. What makes you above the rest of the team? Every player has to deal with other players at their position being drafted. A team does not draft to make one player happy, they draft to create a roster. Especially the irony here as he was drafted to a team with a starting QB.

Oversimplification of the issue

 

[TEXPAC]

I have always thought Rodgers was a bit of a Diva and I still believe he is the best QB in football. That being said, I think both he and the Packers could and should have handled this entirely different. I have to remember that I am a Packers fan above all. I am a Rodgers fans as well, but the team is first. Rodgers may not think the same way. I certainly hope this all works out in the best interests of the TEAM!!!!

 

[sschind]

Why are you getting upset at someone posting news? I personally dont believe a trade is in the works with anyone, as the dead cap hit is just too much. MaAfee has close contact with Rodgers so

Which part are you referring to?

My comment to Poker? it was a joke

My comments about McAfee- I'm not upset I'm just not a fan.

My comments about Sclereth- I thought I was pretty obvious on that one.

I'm not sure there was any news posted here at all other than AR didn't know about any trade talks between the Packers and the Broncos and I'm not sure there was.

 

[scotty]

Funny I just got done reading that

I think what's just frustrating about this whole thing is it's hard to say what's only rumor and what isn't.

Right now my biggest question is whether or not Gute is lying. He says he never even considered trading Rodgers this offseason, and just last night even said he wasn't going to do it period. Problem is why does the media keep running with that? And why are they still saying things like Packers are secretly working on negotiations with Denver right now? Could be a case of the GM thinking he's going to get his cake and eat it too.

I'll just say if Rodgers ends up going, neither he nor the front office is going to look good. Is his frustration solely because of Jordan Love and feeling that the Packers are already trying to force him out to put their guy in at QB?

If so, I would probably send Love off if it was enough to make the situation more equitable and thereby guarantee Gute meant what he said about how much he values Rodgers. Yeah it would suck that a first round pick got wasted, but if the end result was getting a SB win within this season or next, we'll only have made a small sacrifice of one player and just postponed replacing Rodgers for a little longer.

Now if Rodgers is frustrated with things beyond that such as disliking LaFleur more than I thought, or having a change of heart about retiring as a Packer, or something else... well in that case the only option would be to trade him.

But if we are to get an equitable situation worked out for Rodgers to return, it's going to have to be done fast.

All good points. Look, same with Gute & co., Rodgers doesn't come out of this smelling like a rose - I agree with anyone on that. As a little side note here, my take on Aaron Rodgers (without knowing him personally, of course) is ...

He's very smart.
He has a big ego.
He holds grudges.
He takes any slights, real or perceived, very personally.

He's not really unique in any of those respects. You see that in other sports stars who have been coddled to some degree, I mean their world really has been all about them since they started playing competitive sports (and those around them have fed that notion). And their extreme level of talent has cemented it. Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan - really you see a lot of the same traits and behavior.

We already know this and when you have a transcendent talent like Rodgers, you just know what makes them tick and you keep them happy. I don't think it should really be that hard for a GM or team ownership to take care of their star player. For all the traits above, Rodgers doesn't seem totally unreasonable or anything if you give him respect and show a commitment to him.

I think it's too late for that now, at this point I think the damage is done. I think it would be better for both parties to make the split this season and for the Packers to get all they can in the exchange. What a shame.

I think there are a LOT of posters here who have no concept of the vast gulf in talent there is between the very few elite QBs in the league, and all the rest.

Just ask the Chicago Bears, who haven't found a Rodgers or Favre in decades of trying. Look at teams that have depended on Andy Dalton, or gone all in on Cam Newton, or tried to figure out if Nick Foles is their answer. Teams that have gone with one QB, moved on to another, and then gone back to the previous mediocre one because they decide it's better than the other bad options.

It's inevitable that we are going to have to be in that camp soon (now, maybe sooner than we think). But to be speeding that along with the league MVP still on our roster is insane.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The reason why Rodgers hasn't broadcast his wishes is that up until yesterday he was working behind the scenes to get an extension worked out. No need to hang out the dirty laundry while you're negotiating. I think he took a more public route yesterday because his contract talks have been a dud so far. Aging HOF qb's see their window of opportunity closing for more rings and want the franchise to maximize its commitment to win now. Certainly the 2019 draft was the exact opposite and sent an undeniable message that his tenure was going to come to a close sooner than later. Instead of squawking, AR went and had an MVP season in 2020. He proved the window of opportunity is still very open and wants that to be as long as possible at least to the end of 2024 which would wreck Jordan Love's rookie contract ability to have a starting qb at a bargain price. AR has forced Gute's hand. Either extend Rodgers and waste a first round draft pick or move on from Rodgers and throw Love into the mix before he's ready. Looks like there is no way Rodgers comes back in 2021 without an extension if any of the reporting has any validity.

 

[Spanky]

Let's say these rumors aren't even true. Do fans even want Araon back at this point and vice versa? This shitstorm has led to many fans turning their backs on Aaron regardless of what happens, so why keep a player like that on a team...especially the Packers?

Rodgers has been butt hurt for years. How is this any different? The Packers won't trade him, he'll come in and play at a high level, and the fans won't care as long as the Packers win.