Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Bobby Ward]

Of all the banter about Rodgers now or Favre back then, one very clear issue seems to be forgotten. The front office needs revamped now! This kind of crap did not go on when Bob Harlan & Ron Wolf were running things. They just got things done. Under Mark Murphy & Thompson/Guetekunst, brain dead decisions are the norm.

 

[longtimefan]

I hear ya but...I think New England thought the same thing when Brady left too....

but I see your point, I honestly don’t agree but respect it.

There was more to ne than brady

 

[hasamikun]

What Rodgers pulled today was way worse then Favre not knowing whether he was going to retire (im not even sure what point you were hoping to make pointing out Favres po disasters in the context of the conversation). He leaks that news mere hours before the draft hoping the Packers FO panic and accept a garbage offer to a team of his choosing. That is really messed up and thankfully Gute kept his wits. Whether you view it differently is on you

I wasnt around when the Favre thing went down but I have a similar opinion to this. Rodgers all offseason long acted the complete opposite way. He wanted to retire here and he was happy as he hasnt been for quite a while. Now he pulls this **** on draft day? That is a **** move.

This seems like Rodgers going nuclear for a new contract, which still is kinda ridiculous to me given the contract situation. Or the other situation is Rodgers really trying to force a trade and the timing is now so the FO panics into a bad deal. Either way, I am happy how Gutey responded to it. They showed as much commitment as possible in this situation while maintaining maximum flexibility and I like that he is calling Rodgers' bluff right now and stays strong.

Underrated let’s kick a field goal MLF? Let’s draft Love and see him fall to 3rd string and get bumped because of contract disputes MLF? Is he good or did he have a HOF qb? Time will tell. This team has relied heavily on Favre and Rodgers to bail them out over the last 2 DECADES...let’s see what happens if you get a kid who won’t last and MLF gets trigger happy and drafts another QB in 2 years and restarts the process before we roll through a HC change. I like my odds, but you’re right about 3-13 bas a little low, but my gut says best season without Rodgers will be 6-10 over the next 5 years....maybe the Jeff Fischer 7-9 depending on schedule.

1. Rodgers heavily benefits from MLF and the talent level Packers surrounded him on offense with. Lets not act like its a one-way street. MLF is a big reason Rodgers had arguably his 2nd best season ever.

2. The shortcomings, especially with Rodgers, are not solely on the defense. While the defense plays a big part in that, the offense completely choked in 2014 and 2021 an to some degree vs the 9ers last season. Rodgers has been far from flawless in these losses

3. Amazing how you already can judge Jordan Love although you never saw him play. MLF was in love with him for a reason and Love has all the skills to succeed in the NFL. He needs some polishing but that ca be done.

4. I am not getting tired of saying this but Rodgers wont get a much better situation than he has in GB. Top notch OL every year, best WR and LT in the league, top 10 RB, one of the best young playcallers in the league, a really good and deep TE room with good production + a scheme that makes it easy for everybody on the roster. Most QBs in the league would kill for this kind of situation on their offense.

 

[tynimiller]

Gute confirmed time and time again in his Stokes presser - which honestly Aaron and his agent suck for at least stealing the moment from Stokes...in a presser about the pick Gute fielded like 4 Aaron questions to every 1 about Stokes.

That said Gute kept confirming time and time again how much he and the organization are committed to Aaron. He refuted and declared the claim they told Aaron they were trading him were utter false and misreported.

He also stayed quite professional in not speaking for Rodgers, and confirmed they even spoke with Rodgers today.

At times his word selection and answers made me think this is blown up some...but he never came out and said that much direct enough to be sure. There is some truth right now for sure about this all.

He did let it slip in description of Jordan Love that "He has a long way to go" which I found interesting. I am almost wondering if we are heading towards an extension of Aaron and departure of Love more than the reverse...time will tell but I'm worried about this infecting the organization if it continues to fester.

 

[AmishMafia]

How old was the QBs who beat us in the championship game this year? Going on to win the superbowl.......

Rodgers is mvp and has not shown any decline.....
He could have 6 or 7 years left in him. Needs some high end online depth for insurance.
And when will bahk be back to 100%?

So if Brady does then everyone should be able? Great logic.

And if you didn't see a decline in ARs performance in 2106, 2017, and 2018 then you didn't watch the games, have a poor memory, or are wearing your Rodgers/rose colored glasses.

 

[Mondio]

Gute confirmed time and time again in his Stokes presser - which honestly Aaron and his agent suck for at least stealing the moment from Stokes...in a presser about the pick Gute fielded like 4 Aaron questions to every 1 about Stokes.

That said Gute kept confirming time and time again how much he and the organization are committed to Aaron. He refuted and declared the claim they told Aaron they were trading him were utter false and misreported.

He also stayed quite professional in not speaking for Rodgers, and confirmed they even spoke with Rodgers today.

At times his word selection and answers made me think this is blown up some...but he never came out and said that much direct enough to be sure. There is some truth right now for sure about this all.

He did let it slip in description of Jordan Love that "He has a long way to go" which I found interesting. I am almost wondering if we are heading towards an extension of Aaron and departure of Love more than the reverse...time will tell but I'm worried about this infecting the organization if it continues to fester.

I do think there is probably some to the story in that Rodgers is not happy there wasn't a bigger commitment or more money his way. I don't believe it is going to lead him to play elsewhere this year though. One is a normal reaction and I can understand that. The other I think is people in the media embellishing a little bit to keep the clicks going.

Doesn't surprise me about Love either. He was picked for the future, one day that future will be here. He wasn't ready last year obviously and with no camp, no preseason, and the very limited reps in regular season, it's no surprise he has a long ways to go. It's been my position all along, he wasn't going to factor into any decisions at QB until next year at the earliest unless injury forced them to.

 

[PackAttack12]

Need to look with out Gute hater glasses

I've been complimentary of 90+ percent of the decisions Gutekunst has made. I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Pugger]

All of this reminds me of the bruhaha about Russell Wilson in Seattle a few weeks back. The talk then was Wilson wanted out. There isn't much of that being bantered about now. I'm not going to lose sleep over this.

 

[PikeBadger]

So, my take right now:

1) packers stay calm, keep working on getting aaron back on board. No one inside has admitted to ANYTHING being speculated about so far. Aaron also hasn't talked about it.

2) Packers don't get aaron on board, or he releases a statement to push the issue. GB holds him until June 1 cutoff, them fields trade offers for him, banking the $20 mil vs $5 mil trading tonight.

Calm execution seems to be the way right now. Let's see what happens at 29...

Totally agree. I want to hear what Rodgers has to say and I want to hear it from him and not his agent. We’ve already heard from Gutekunst on this topic.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

I wonder if this has been going on for a couple years now. Maybe Rodgers wanted out after LaFleur's first year and asked for a trade, buncha BS behind the scenes. Brass gets angered with this, draft Love cuz they don't know what Rodgers is gonna do/leak to the media. Then same happens this year, but worse. Rodgers is mute to the media leading to all sorts of speculation. I suspect he's manipulating this franchise to be moved to the west coast. I suspect things will get worse next offseason. IMO, the time to move him was yesterday. His value will never be higher.

 

[scotty]

“The simple truth of this is the Packers should have seen this impasse coming after the 2020 season, when Rodgers exceeded the organizations expectations and drove a stake through the plan to begin a transition to Jordan Love in 2021 or 2022. Whatever the master plan was to engineer a smooth transition, it was clear that Rodgers wasn’t going to deteriorate to the point of making the change simple. That put the Packers into a position to make a choice: Either re-commit to Rodgers and scrap the Love transition plan in the next few years, or open their ears and listen to what Rodgers is saying about where he wants to go.

The Packers fumbled both choices. And that’s how we arrived at Thursday, with Green Bay stealing the first day of the draft for all the wrong reasons. It all set up a swirl of narratives that will seek to place blame on one side or the other, rather than sharing in the unified destruction of the relationship between a Hall of Fame quarterback and his team of 16 years.”
https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

Truth.

Look, the article even notes that Rodgers isn’t blameless in all this. Of course not. But our upper management looks like a clown show over this fiasco. They’ve handled everything the wrong way with Rodgers of late and they continue to do so, and posture as if they’re proud of it. It’s mindless.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

“The simple truth of this is the Packers should have seen this impasse coming after the 2020 season, when Rodgers exceeded the organizations expectations and drove a stake through the plan to begin a transition to Jordan Love in 2021 or 2022. Whatever the master plan was to engineer a smooth transition, it was clear that Rodgers wasn’t going to deteriorate to the point of making the change simple. That put the Packers into a position to make a choice: Either re-commit to Rodgers and scrap the Love transition plan in the next few years, or open their ears and listen to what Rodgers is saying about where he wants to go.

The Packers fumbled both choices. And that’s how we arrived at Thursday, with Green Bay stealing the first day of the draft for all the wrong reasons. It all set up a swirl of narratives that will seek to place blame on one side or the other, rather than sharing in the unified destruction of the relationship between a Hall of Fame quarterback and his team of 16 years.”
https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

Truth.

Look, the article even notes that Rodgers isn’t blameless in all this. Of course not. But our upper management looks like a clown show over this fiasco. They’ve handled everything the wrong way with Rodgers of late and they continue to do so, and posture as if they’re proud of it. It’s mindless.

Rodgers learned from an early onset how to manipulate the media. He's trying to get what he wants without $hit on his shoe and to make the GM look bad is his strategy. As is the case with drama, there's two sides. I won't blame Gutey more than Rodgers in this mess. Gutey is the one with time constraints on his decisions and has to predict the future for this team. I do think that Rodgers asked to be away from the team last year pre-draft but we won't see that reported anywhere. Hence the desperation with our QB move in the first.

 

[bigbubbatd]

the patriots drafted Brady replacement numerous times and Brady never demanded a trade. So why is Belichek a genius and Gute a fool? Is it just because Brady already had Super Bowls? I am not trying to be snarky and would love to hear people's thoughts on the difference.


In the last part of Brady's career the patriots used 3 3rds and a 2nd to draft Brady's replacement. I get that isn't a first but that is a lot of higher picks

 

[AKCheese]

So to placate Rodgers we should A) Never draft a QB to develope B) keep renegotiating his contract so there is maximim cap pain when he can no longer perform.... how can Green Bay be so inept

 

[scotty]

the patriots drafted Brady replacement numerous times and Brady never demanded a trade. So why is Belichek a genius and Gute a fool? Is it just because Brady already had Super Bowls? I am not trying to be snarky and would love to hear people's thoughts on the difference.


In the last part of Brady's career the patriots used 3 3rds and a 2nd to draft Brady's replacement. I get that isn't a first but that is a lot of higher picks

The Patriots committed themselves to making a Super Bowl run every single season while Brady was there. They wheeled, they “dealed” (dealt, lol) and put pieces in place to complement Brady, even when looking for his heir apparent.

The Packers stubbornly refuse to do the same. What’s the last big free agent signing or trade by the Packers meant to inject significant more octane into the offense? It’s clear the Pack philosophy is to build through the draft, and player development.

Okay, so they trade up to take Love in a draft with a particularly rich crop of top WRs. Sorry Rodgers, we’re planning for the future. Really?

Our WRs have definitely come along, but at the time of that draft, we had Davante Adams ... and a bunch of young, mostly unproven guys who showed flashes but were not anywhere near how a Super Bowl offense is built.

Brady finally got deposed in New England. But before he did, he never had to worry as to whether the Pats were all-in on a championship. And regardless, even Belichik isn’t looking like as much of a genius these days ...

 

[bigbubbatd]

The Patriots committed themselves to making a Super Bowl run every single season while Brady was there. They wheeled, they “dealed” (dealt, lol) and put pieces in place to complement Brady, even when looking for his heir apparent.

The Packers stubbornly refuse to do the same. What’s the last big free agent signing or trade by the Packers meant to inject significant more octane into the offense? It’s clear the Pack philosophy is to build through the draft, and player development.

Okay, so they trade up to take Love in a draft with a particularly rich crop of top WRs. Sorry Rodgers, we’re planning for the future. Really?

Our WRs have definitely come along, but at the time of that draft, we had Davante Adams ... and a bunch of young, mostly unproven guys who showed flashes but were not anywhere near how a Super Bowl offense is built.

Brady finally got deposed in New England. But before he did, he never had to worry as to whether the Pats were all-in on a championship. And regardless, even Belichik isn’t looking like as much of a genius these days ...

Packers had the best offense in the nfl last year and put a ton of money in the defense to get smith smith and amos. They put money into the oline with turner and a huge extension for bahk. They resigned jones. I am talking Gute here not tt. Gute saw the issue with the defense and went after it

 

[Jerellh528]

The Patriots committed themselves to making a Super Bowl run every single season while Brady was there. They wheeled, they “dealed” (dealt, lol) and put pieces in place to complement Brady, even when looking for his heir apparent.

The Packers stubbornly refuse to do the same. What’s the last big free agent signing or trade by the Packers meant to inject significant more octane into the offense? It’s clear the Pack philosophy is to build through the draft, and player development.

Okay, so they trade up to take Love in a draft with a particularly rich crop of top WRs. Sorry Rodgers, we’re planning for the future. Really?

Our WRs have definitely come along, but at the time of that draft, we had Davante Adams ... and a bunch of young, mostly unproven guys who showed flashes but were not anywhere near how a Super Bowl offense is built.

Brady finally got deposed in New England. But before he did, he never had to worry as to whether the Pats were all-in on a championship. And regardless, even Belichik isn’t looking like as much of a genius these days ...

to piggy back off this a little, I think what makes it slightly more egregious is that we were one game away from the Super Bowl, a difference maker in the first round could easily be the cherry on top that propels a team over the hump. Not only that, but they didn’t let the board fall to them and take a QB, they traded up to nab him.

 

[El Guapo]

Rodgers is acting just as butt-hurt as Favre did back in 2008. The Packers don't owe you ANYTHING. I was big on noting his decline under McCarthy. He and LeFluer have resurrected his career, but we are talking about a fruit at the end of its ripeness. I am firmly on board with the Packers long-range plan for keeping the team competitive.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Rodgers is acting just as butt-hurt as Favre did back in 2008. The Packers don't owe you ANYTHING. I was big on noting his decline under McCarthy. He and LeFluer have resurrected his career, but we are talking about a fruit at the end of its ripeness. I am firmly on board with the Packers long-range plan for keeping the team competitive.

Yeah, Rodgers OWES the Packers for all those years he was the best QB in the NFL. Some of you fans that demand total subservience from the employees sound like huge fans of monarchies cause your opinions have no bearing on any reality that involves superstars having emotions.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That is the only logic of the idea. Denver knows GB wants a CB, Surtain is a concensus top 2 in the draft. Keep working on the Rodgers trade negotiations and if not you now have the future when Fullers one year is done.

A buddy of mine actually texted me the same thing right after The Broncos selected Surtain. I am guessing that you posted this before the Packer pick and I think that the Stokes selection pretty much shuts this idea down. While it would be nice to have Surtain, Alexander and Stokes, I highly doubt even Gute would have invested that much into CB.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah, Rodgers OWES the Packers for all those years he was the best QB in the NFL. Some of you fans that demand total subservience from the employees sound like huge fans of monarchies cause your opinions have no bearing on any reality that involves superstars having emotions.

I see both sides, but when players start refusing to fulfill contracts and pull a "trade me or I sit/retire", it tells me there isn't a lot of loyalty or at least greed Trumps loyalty.

Rodgers could walk away today and support 100 families for his lifetime. The Packers and the NFL put Rodgers in that position, not the other way around. I love Aaron's play on the field, but IMO, this is a total **** move on his part. He has now put himself above all his teammates and the organization.

 

[AmishMafia]

Of all the banter about Rodgers now or Favre back then, one very clear issue seems to be forgotten. The front office needs revamped now! This kind of crap did not go on when Bob Harlan & Ron Wolf were running things. They just got things done. Under Mark Murphy & Thompson/Guetekunst, brain dead decisions are the norm.

Or maybe if fans didn't put great QBs on such a high pedestal their heads wouldn't get so big and act like prima Donna's and far more important than the team.

The fact is: this new regime took over a 500 level team and in the first 2 seasons got them into the NFC championship game. That's the best start in Packer history for a new regime. Despite the success they changed DCs - showing all that they will do whatever it takes to better the team.

You may not agree with their individual decisions, and they aren't going to be perfect. But overall they have done an amazing job. Now if you want a organization intent on placating the ideas of a player on the team, who has never scouted, watched tape, or evaluated college talent in any way, then so be it. I think that is rather foolish.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I see both sides, but when players start refusing to fulfill contracts and pull a "trade me or I sit/retire", it tells me there isn't a lot of loyalty or at least greed Trumps loyalty.

Rodgers could walk away today and support 100 families for his lifetime. The Packers and the NFL put Rodgers in that position, not the other way around. I love Aaron's play on the field, but IMO, this is a total **** move on his part. He has now put himself above all his teammates and the organization.

So we're just going to ignore the billion dollar team that literally pays Rodgers all that money and just pretend Rodgers is the spoiled rich guy? Sorry, I don't believe in telling people they should be happy with their money, that's their choice.

He has put himself above the organization. Then again, he's better at his job than anyone in the organization and his job is the most important one so I have no problem with it. Then again, I tend to be pro-labor, not pro-management.

 

[scotty]

to piggy back off this a little, I think what makes it slightly more egregious is that we were one game away from the Super Bowl, a difference maker in the first round could easily be the cherry on top that propels a team over the hump. Not only that, but they didn’t let the board fall to them and take a QB, they traded up to nab him.

Great point.

 

[Einstein McFly]

Of all the banter about Rodgers now or Favre back then, one very clear issue seems to be forgotten. The front office needs revamped now! This kind of crap did not go on when Bob Harlan & Ron Wolf were running things. They just got things done. Under Mark Murphy & Thompson/Guetekunst, brain dead decisions are the norm.

Wolf spent a first round pick to go get Favre. Thompson spent one to get Rodgers. Gute spent one to get Love. It's called planning for the future, and it's what smart front offices do. You'd prefer they desperately throw money and multiple draft picks at it year after year like the bears? Because that's the alternative. If Rodgers wants to moan about it, that's on him. Gute et. al. are just doing their jobs.