But that doesn't fit the ridiculous narrative that that ....person... is trying to spin. The Packers are a winning organization and yes it certainly helps to have a top QB, however, it appears that because they are a winning organization they are willing to make changes as well. It appears that they recognized that some changes were in order after last season so what did they do? They went out and changed the organizational structure .... changed GMs, kept what they thought was working well, and appear to be changing what wasn't. They have definitely been more active in free agency... The offense is said to be getting a makeover. The defense had a glaring weakness at CB... so they drafted two top corners as well as bringing in some low cost help in free agency. Salary cap had become tight ...so they made the tough choice and released an aging veteran that unfortunately was due to make more than his projected ability. I could go on but... Not all of these choices are guaranteed to be the right ones, and many here may disagree with some or all of them, but none of them are the mark of a perennial loser.I think the OP was claiming that Dorsey WILL make the Browns contenders. However, that is an assumption and not a fact. Also, to assume that the Packers would be a perennial loser without Rodgers, is assuming that they would be perfectly happy to stick with Hundley at QB. Did the offense struggle without Rodgers? Yes. However, if Rodgers retired today, I am pretty sure the Packers would eventually find a much better option than Hundley and be nowhere near as bad as Cleveland has been.