Official Packers vs Rams thread

[Ramhusker]

Another Ram fan invading your "cheese factory" to make you worry for the rest of the week.

I'm excited about this game. And allow me to go full-bore homer for a second by saying I think this matchup is a preview to the NFC Championship game. There, I said it, got it out of the way.

As far as this week's game goes, I don't think any Rams fan had it wrote down as a W for our team when we saw it on the schedule. We know the Packers have the best QB in the league, very solid WRs even before the injuries, stout RBs, and a decent D. I even pick Crosby as my FF K every year. The Packers were my Super Bowl pick last year and again this year. No doubt, your team is elite in many areas and not overly weak anywhere. With that said, expect to be punched in the mouth this week. The Rams always come for a fight. They often shoot themselves in the foot with dropped passes, stupid penalties, and plain old bad luck dished out by the football gods but they do come to play old-school football. Make sure the ice-makers around Lambeau are well stocked up this week. Our D is indeed a bend-don't-break by design and it is maddening to me. I suppose the coaches know a lot more than my arm-chair GM butt and have chosen this style to cover some weakness in personnel or to accentuate strengths in other personnel but it drives this fan crazy. And it might backfire against Rodgers.

The key matchup in this game is your Aaron against our Aaron. I saw Rodgers do his "Fran Tarkenton" act last week a couple of times where he twirls seemingly to exit the pocket to escape the rush just to twirl right back into a new pocket and fire a bullet. I think that particular move won't work this week because Donald will be getting enough push to occupy that new pocket. Of course, Rodgers is not a one-trick pony and will find a way to find his WRs.

Not to diss your RBs but they don't concern me no more than any other RB our D faces because we tend to shut all RBs down 3 out of 4 carries just to let them bust a 25 yard gallop on us. You don't have to be an elite RB in the NFL to do this so I don't care if we are facing Lynch, Peterson, Lacy, etc. it's all the same. I do hate that you deploy the FB Kuhn so well. I love FB play and wish we had one.

Laying all analysis aside, the Rams usually play their best ball against good teams they are not supposed to beat and lay eggs against teams like Washington so I expect a hard-fought game this week. I'm just glad it's early October going into Lambeau instead of dead of winter.

One caveat that no one here seems to be mentioning is TODD GURLEY. I know that he is a rookie. I know that he has had ONE great half of football in the NFL. I know that many would say that he is not proven and it's all the Rams have on their O. But, I'll venture to say he changes everything with the Rams O. I think you have one quarter of tape to study on the Rams' O. It is virtually brand new starting this week. Gurley is a special talent. He is going to live up to all the hype. He changes everything when it comes to the Rams' offensive attack. As a D, you will have to focus on him and that of course changes everything. It's just a little thing that'll put a little doubt in your confidence.

Here's to a good game come Sunday! Let's hope the Refs leave it to the players to decide and no injuries!

 

[Brian Demarest]

Cameron Lynch is most likely an upgrade over Ogletree in pass coverage but he´s not as good defending the run or rushing the passer. The Rams secondary is average at best and Joyner is a below-average starter that will be exploited by Cobb without any safety help.

Tree was a league leading LB in tackles. His speed will be missed. Joyner has struggled. If you think the stats of the secondary out of context paint the picture, that's up to you. Joyner on Cobb on an island? Lord I hope not.

I agree that the Rams defensive line is better than the Seahawks or Chiefs one but it´s pretty close though.

OK, we will see.

The Rams defense ranked 12th in TDs allowed in the red zone and 17th in points allowed after week 3. They will probably have improved their ranking after the Cardinals game but it´s far from impossible to score against them inside the 20.

Washington was an outlier IMHO. Rams were outcoached and never adjusted during the game. I have yet to see that failure again since so, for me, I think they have adjusted. They are giving up 17 PPG against their D? Something like that. Maybe that's without the Skins game. Can't remember. I'll look.

The Seahawks offense hasn´t been able to score a ton of points this season so far and the Cardinals offense hugley benefitted from playing terrible teams. The Rams defense did an impressive job vs. the Steelers even before Roethlisberger was injured, but trust me you haven´t faced an offense like the Packers one so far, especially at Lambeau Field.

No, we haven't. And I hate that it's now and not mid-season. They are still settling in and getting players back.

The Rams special teams have been above average so far but aside of the punt returned by Austin vs. the Seahawks haven´t had any explosive plays anymore. Teams have continued punting to Austin with him averaging 10.5 yards on those returns with two fair catches.

FWIW it´s worth it was rookie David Johnson fumbling on the Cardinals kickoff to start the season.

Zuerlein hasn´t been that great kicking outdoors where he has only made 71.9% of his field goals during his career though. Hekker is an above average punter but once again he´s not the best in the league.

All stats lacking the eyeball test. Almost no one is punting to TA. He has 5 returns this season and 2 games with zero. The returns he does have after the opening game are mostly bouncing balls. He is averaging 25 yards per return. I hope GB punts to him, we need it.

I stand corrected. It was Johnson but he didn't fumble, he was stripped. One is a mistake, the other is created through skill and effort.

I agree, Zuerlein hasn't been great for a few patches of his career. However, he's the best long ball kicker you may ever see. If you go to the game, don't miss him in warmups. You'll see kicks you probably didn't think were possible. I have no doubt he will break the longest FG record in his career. Like I said, he practises from the 65 and nails them. He has also nailed 75 yards many times. Also, this season, he hasn't missed any FGs.

Hekker, all things considered, is the most valuable punter in the NFL. He is a great punter, but he is also more than just a punter.

Austin is a big play threat but he´s only averaging 49.6 yards per game for his career. Gurley seems like the real deal but Mason and Cunningham don´t put any fear into opposing defenses (they´re averaging a combined 2.6 yards per carry this season). The Rams receiving corps is average at best. Foles is an average QB as well who will never even come to close to repeating his performance in 2013.

This is cherry picking with no context. TA has rarely had a starting caliber QB. He also had an OC who just wouldn't give him the ball. Since the change of QB and OC, he's exploding. No one wants to count the yards gained from the short punts, but they change the field position game. He has 6 receptions for 96 yards and 2 TDs. He has 10 rushes for 77 yards and a TD. His average PR this season is 25 yards and 1 TD.

TA's biggest value to the Rams aren't just his yards per touch and scores, but that he distracts defenses. You can key on him and slow him, but it will take assets and the Rams will use it against you. The 52 yard Run by Gurley was a fake end around by TA. These won't show in the stats sheet, but they will in the game.

Gurley has one start. I will not anoint him anything yet. According to college fans who followed his career, he isn't near full speed yet. But DAMN he looked good the second half.

Mason and Cunningham have had struggles. Mason was out injured and played injured. Cunningham is a better receiving back and a short yardage bowling ball. If you look at last season you will get a better picture. are they scary behind a new o line and two rookies? Nope. But they can be good when the line gels.

Your beliefs about the WRs and Foles are yours. Have at them. I can't back up what I know with stats yet, but if Quick is 100% and starts opposite Britt with TA, Gurley, and Bailey on the field, I suspect you will be singing a different tune after the game. We haven't even seen what this crew can do together yet and we may not this week either.

I´m quite sure Sitton will be able to handle Brockers one-on-one. This means Linsley and Lang will double team Donald on every single snap. There´s no doubt in my mind that Donald is an All-Pro but trust me that he hasn´t faced a center-guard tandem nearly as good as Lang and Linsley so far this season.

The proof is forthcoming. Choose your poison. IF you can stop Donald, and that's far from assured, Quinn and Long will just eat a bigger meal. Of course, if GB can stop them, then good on you, I don't see it. If they fail, it will be Rodgers IMHO, not your o line.

The Rams have allowed an average of 4.54 points on drives in the red zone with five TDs and eight FGs in 13 drives. While that is once again above average teams have been able to score on them.

I wouldn´t rely on Rodgers turning the ball over as he hasn´t thrown a single interception at Lambeau Field since late in the 2012 (!!!) season.

Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions. The Packers are a superior team and should win this game by more than an score.

The Rams allowed 2 offensive TDs between Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Two. That's pretty good, yes?

Washington was a nightmare but the rest of the games speak for themselves.

Rams create TOs, they don't wait for them. They put their helmets on balls. They pull the balls out. They knock a guy senseless so he coughs it up. We aren't counting on Rodgers, we're counting on the Rams defense.

"Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions."

I hear that every week. And every week fans come back and tell me they were mistaken. Rams are deep in offensive talent and it's not even all on the field yet. I get it, stats don't agree, W/L doesn't agree, but this isn't last season's offense. If you think Foles, Austin, Jenkins, and Gurley are average, you may have an unrealistic standard.

 

[Brian Demarest]

I just watched the second half of the Rams-Cardinals game and it was definitely a good one. Give credit to the Rams but it's not like the Cardinals were dominated or weren't in a position to win. Rams definitely got away with a fumble that should have been Cardinals first-and-goal, and on the Cardinals' last series they were driving but Palmer missed a couple of fairly open receivers on 3rd and 4th downs to end the drive.

Rams pass rush was definitely impressive, but Palmer wasn't overwhelmed. He did have time. I also thought Foles was very good too. Made some very fine passes. He'll have to play like that for the Rams to have a chance next Sunday. Rams D looks to have great pursuit, but running it right down their throat might be more effective that trying to go outside.

Palmer, an excellent QB with an accurate ball, misses on 2 passes badly but it was him and not the pass rush that created those misses? I disagree. Palmer looked scared the entire second half. I think those were hearing footsteps passes. It was odd that we sacked him twice on their first series and then only twice more. Dude was NOT hanging on to that ball!

I agree, running the ball inside may be your best bet, but it's far from a gimmie. Then again, without Tree, I suspect GB will at least test the left side.

 

[Brian Demarest]

I think Rams are a bit too over confident coming off that win against the Cardinals. But they are forgetting they are a team that could easily be 0-4.
They barely beat a seahawks team that is not very good by some stupid decisions on their coaching staff.

They lost to the Redskins and only put up 6 points at home against the Steelers, and couldn't beat a team with out Rothlisberger and a backup who doesn't even prepare for games.

Against the Cards they got bailed out of those fumbles by the refs and the Cards still had a chance to go down the field at the end.

I'm by no means saying this team is a pushover, and will agree that they have a solid defense. But it's a team that is trying to find its identity. I might be biased being a Packers fan, but I think the Rams are going to be getting a rude awakening. Our defense will hold them and we all know what Rodgers can do at home. I think we win 27-17 and that's them scoring on garbage time.

I hope you GB fans don't think I'm being over confident. I know who the Rams are and I'm just giving my opinion from what I saw every snap from TC day one until now. Rams scare me every game. It's been a long long rebuild with no QB and many other issues.

However, this is the endgame. Everything the Rams needed has been addressed. They won't be consistent early this season, but we do have great hopes after the bye.

You chose to pick anything that would make the Rams look lucky in those games. Rams could easily be 4-0 or 3-1 also. We also had bad calls and bad breaks. We were playing without RB1, RB2, WR1, in a new scheme with a new QB and o-line. If you base this game off those games, it will be a mistake. This team isn't those teams.

We barely beat the Hawks because we let them in the game with mistakes like a Pead fumble on his single carry who is now off the team. They scored 18 on us offensively.

We held the Steelers WITH Big Ben for most of the game to 9 points until the closing minutes. We had 6. It was our game to lose and we did. I would play them this week with Big Ben and bet the house.

"it's a team that is trying to find its identity."

Yes, exactly. And that's hard to do when your key players aren't playing.

Your prediction is a fair and reasonable one at this point in the season. I won't be surprised if it's a lot closer than you think though. You haven't seen this O with Gurley and Quick.

 

[Brian Demarest]

Thanks for providing us with your perspectives Brian. 95% of the folks on this forum are pretty level headed so you'll get some good back-and-forth. I think that captainWIMM did his usual good job analyzing things.

One part that wasn't addressed much overall was your advice about punting to Austin. I hear you and maybe things will change now that we have a new ST coach this year, but in general McCarthy has never shied away from punting to the best. When Devin Hester was the best and we played him twice per year, we always punted to him and dared him to beat us. It never worked for the Bears. Our STs haven't been a brightspot yet this season, but don't expect us to play scared at home.

I really believe that this will be a classic matchup of two teams with good RBs keeping the ball on the ground. Lacy and Starks will square off against Gurley with Fowles and Rodgers doing what they need to keeping defenses honest through the air.

Yep! This could be a brawl of the bulldozers. Of course, Lacey is a known commodity and Gurley isn't, but his potential is through the roof. Our o-line was hand selected to be road graders but it hasn't shown a lot until the second half against Cards. They are just a massive monster sized group of linemen, but I think the emphasis has been on pass protection so far with Foles in and Gurley out.

I hope they punt to TA. If he fails to do anything, so be it. The kid is amazing.

Fisher will draft for ST. He puts as much into ST as defense and he's pretty good at it. If you can't play ST on the Rams, unless you are a highly valued skill player or lineman, you have no job.

Green Bay shouldn't be scared of anyone anywhere. That doesn't mean the games don't have to be played.

 

[Brian Demarest]

Question: What is up with Davante Adams? Is he a sleeper or a dude?

 

[PikeBadger]

So here's a Rams' Fan perspective if you want it:

I am a rabid fan. And that is very hard to be with the Rams. I think there might be 12 of us . I go to all open training camps, sit with very knowledgeable people, and even watch some closed practices from a secret spot. We KNEW the Rams would have a bumpy opening. I think it's fair to say, no one thought the Rams were going to be great in the first 5 games. 2-3 or 3-2 against our very challenging opening schedule was the best I could hope for.

Why? We have a new QB, OC, new O scheme, new o line with 2 rookies and only 1 player in the same starting position, and we were missing Gurley, Mason, and Quick. You can't beat NFL teams with that, but you CAN anticipate.

Defense:

They are badass with a capital BADASS. Forget the stats, the Rams just hound teams and QBs. It's nonstop. Their nickname is Mob Squad, and they earn it every week.

So, why do they not rank? Because the stats don't consider strategy, plain and simple. Rams D has two jobs and they are make the opposing team throw and run for short gains all game long and stop them in the redzone. Want yards between the 20's? Have at them, we will give you more. Lots and lots of yards. Want a TD in the redzone? Better pull out your teeth pulling pliers. They are the best RZ defense around.

IMHO they do this for two reasons. When a team has to make 80 plays a game, every one is a TO opportunity. We will strip, slap, pull, and INT attempt every play.

The second is they bank on redzone D for a lesser challenge for our O. Keep the score low. Seahawks scored, but they didn't do it with their O. They scored 18 with their O. Steelers, with Big Ben, Brown, and Bell, were held to 12. Cardinals did well as an undefeated team and the most prolific scorers in the NFL this season, but it was 1 TD and then all field goals. The stats of their O that we destroyed are many. Still, we struggled.

Special Teams:

The Rams boast an outstanding ST. No one has kicked a punt to TA that I remember since game one when he broke off a TD. They just surrender yards in short punts to keep the ball out of his hands. You MUST be SURE of your ST to punt to him.

I'm hoping they come up with a way to stop the short punts. We need TA this week.

No ST this season hasn't looked bad against the Rams. Cardinals Peterson? Stripped on the first KO return for a Rams TO and TD within 2 minutes of the game starting.

Our Field Goal kicker will kick from the 70 if needed to win, I kid you not, dude is called Greg the Leg for a reason. He practices from the 65.

Our Punter, if not the best in the NFL...na...he is. He almost had a 50 yard average against the Cards and he is a former QB who has missed on 1 trick play in his NFL career.

Offense:

This is where it gets tricky. everything we thought and hoped for is emerging after 3 seasons. Austin is just amazing. His title is WR, but forget that. If he gets the ball, he will eel his way to a big gain every time.

Gurley is unknown. We loved his first start, but it was his first start. 161 combined yards.

Mason and Cunningham are both very good at both the run and receiving. Cunningham is the better receiver.

Britt can be lights out. Quick may be making his first start since his major injury and he can also lights out. They are both very tall, very physical receivers who will fight for the ball.

Foles is probably going to have his best season ever when it all comes together and that's saying a lot. He already holds a fantastic W/L record the last 2 seasons, NFL best ever TD/INT ratio for a season, and a pro bowl with pro bowl offensive MVP. Now he is in the perfect place with the perfect targets. He will air it out to Britt/Austin/Quick and these guys will catch it. It's been a loooooooong time since we've had that.

Weaknesses:

The o line. They get better every week but it's a rebuild.

TE's. Cook could be a massive star, but he drops every damned must catch ball. Kendricks is good bad has been dropping too. Harkey will mess up anyone in front of him but is a third TE, mostly used for blocking schemes, and rarely pass catching.

I hope I added to the conversation and thanks for having me. The best Rams site for info is Rams On Demand Com.

My goodness. After reading this, I feel it's fruitless for us to show up and play this game. We have no chance to win.
Woe is us!

Ok, I'm done with my pity party.

We're 4-0, have one of the best trigger men in the history of this planet and right now, I think WE are the baddest mothers in the valley. We'll win this game by more than a TD against a very respectable foe.

 

[LA Champ]

So here's a Rams' Fan perspective if you want it:

I am a rabid fan. And that is very hard to be with the Rams. I think there might be 12 of us . I go to all open training camps, sit with very knowledgeable people, and even watch some closed practices from a secret spot. We KNEW the Rams would have a bumpy opening. I think it's fair to say, no one thought the Rams were going to be great in the first 5 games. 2-3 or 3-2 against our very challenging opening schedule was the best I could hope for.

Why? We have a new QB, OC, new O scheme, new o line with 2 rookies and only 1 player in the same starting position, and we were missing Gurley, Mason, and Quick. You can't beat NFL teams with that, but you CAN anticipate.

Defense:

They are badass with a capital BADASS. Forget the stats, the Rams just hound teams and QBs. It's nonstop. Their nickname is Mob Squad, and they earn it every week.

So, why do they not rank? Because the stats don't consider strategy, plain and simple. Rams D has two jobs and they are make the opposing team throw and run for short gains all game long and stop them in the redzone. Want yards between the 20's? Have at them, we will give you more. Lots and lots of yards. Want a TD in the redzone? Better pull out your teeth pulling pliers. They are the best RZ defense around.

IMHO they do this for two reasons. When a team has to make 80 plays a game, every one is a TO opportunity. We will strip, slap, pull, and INT attempt every play.

The second is they bank on redzone D for a lesser challenge for our O. Keep the score low. Seahawks scored, but they didn't do it with their O. They scored 18 with their O. Steelers, with Big Ben, Brown, and Bell, were held to 12. Cardinals did well as an undefeated team and the most prolific scorers in the NFL this season, but it was 1 TD and then all field goals. The stats of their O that we destroyed are many. Still, we struggled.

Special Teams:

The Rams boast an outstanding ST. No one has kicked a punt to TA that I remember since game one when he broke off a TD. They just surrender yards in short punts to keep the ball out of his hands. You MUST be SURE of your ST to punt to him.

I'm hoping they come up with a way to stop the short punts. We need TA this week.

No ST this season hasn't looked bad against the Rams. Cardinals Peterson? Stripped on the first KO return for a Rams TO and TD within 2 minutes of the game starting.

Our Field Goal kicker will kick from the 70 if needed to win, I kid you not, dude is called Greg the Leg for a reason. He practices from the 65.

Our Punter, if not the best in the NFL...na...he is. He almost had a 50 yard average against the Cards and he is a former QB who has missed on 1 trick play in his NFL career.

Offense:

This is where it gets tricky. everything we thought and hoped for is emerging after 3 seasons. Austin is just amazing. His title is WR, but forget that. If he gets the ball, he will eel his way to a big gain every time.

Gurley is unknown. We loved his first start, but it was his first start. 161 combined yards.

Mason and Cunningham are both very good at both the run and receiving. Cunningham is the better receiver.

Britt can be lights out. Quick may be making his first start since his major injury and he can also lights out. They are both very tall, very physical receivers who will fight for the ball.

Foles is probably going to have his best season ever when it all comes together and that's saying a lot. He already holds a fantastic W/L record the last 2 seasons, NFL best ever TD/INT ratio for a season, and a pro bowl with pro bowl offensive MVP. Now he is in the perfect place with the perfect targets. He will air it out to Britt/Austin/Quick and these guys will catch it. It's been a loooooooong time since we've had that.

Weaknesses:

The o line. They get better every week but it's a rebuild.

TE's. Cook could be a massive star, but he drops every damned must catch ball. Kendricks is good bad has been dropping too. Harkey will mess up anyone in front of him but is a third TE, mostly used for blocking schemes, and rarely pass catching.

I hope I added to the conversation and thanks for having me. The best Rams site for info is Rams On Demand Com.

Sounds like you know your Rams buddy!!!! I was trying to get a few to answer some questions and talk over here:
http://ramsondemand.com/threads/what-packers-fans-are-saying.40519/#post-640494

 

[LA Champ]

Rams fan here..hoping for a good injury free game...of course a Rams win builds our mystique! discuss strategies if you dare: http://ramsondemand.com/threads/what-packers-fans-are-saying.40519/#post-640494

 

[RRyder]

Question: What is up with Davante Adams? Is he a sleeper or a dude?

He's had an ankle sprain ever since early in the Seahawks game. If he can play he's our #2 WR behind Cobb right now and yes the man is good but imo I think they'll sit him out this week still

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Rams have sure been a bafflement to me. Seems like what it is, is that they have a knack for beating on divisional opponents but then everyone else rolls on em.

I do think Foles is a better QB than Bradford, Hill, and whoever else has gone through that door, and they do have a running game. So far though our D has held up against that.

I won't predict an outcome but one thing to know about our O, you don't want to have it go bend but don't break on it on opposing defenses because we got redzone weapons. James Jones for one and Richard Rodgers the other.

 

[Packerlover]

On another sports forum I read some posts that were made by Ram fans and they think they will beat the Pack at Lambeau and they site beating Arizona in Arizona. They want back to back victories against undefeated teams. But one Ram fan's post made me laugh, he said, "We have NO chance of beating the Packers unless Rodgers dies before Sunday." LOL

 

[Mondio]

I think their Dline is the best one yet. It remains to be seen how our offense will try and combat that, but I do not prefer to see that approach they took for part of last game. I know the 49er's have a pretty good defense too, but that was a little less than adequate against a very strong Rams DL.

I think heat, short week, etc had a little bit to do with it, but also I think both tackles are weak on our line. Barclay because he can't move and Bahkt because he's weak relatively speaking. Our offense needs to adjust for that. If they do protect well, an early lead could blow this game open. But i'm not expecting that.

 

[TJV]

Good posting Brian Demarest. You earned my respect with those posts and with this:

I am a rabid fan. And that is very hard to be with the Rams. I think there might be 12 of us . I go to all open training camps, sit with very knowledgeable people, and even watch some closed practices from a secret spot.

I was fortunate to become a Packers fan when Lombardi arrived and being a fan was of course easy then. But I remained a fanatic through what some of us refer to as the dark ages. From 1968 to 1991 the Packers played in three playoff games and two of them were in the strike season (1982). They won one of those games. In those 24 seasons they had a winning record in 5. Fanatical perseverance has paid off but that experience makes me appreciate fanatical, knowledgeable fans with a sense of perspective no matter which team they root for. EDIT: Unfortunately, it turns you lack a sense of perspective and turned into a troll.

Every once in a while work interferes with my posting and that's the case now, so I'll only post I don't remember the last time Sitton was handled on a consistent basis.

 

[TeamTundra]

At least some of that may be due to the mobility and pocket presence of #12, no?

#67 has been less-than-stellar as of late.

I agree 100% that our offensive tackles need to play better but I was responding to a poster predicting
our line would give up five sacks for the next game when our line has only given up six total sacks
so far through the first four games while facing some very good defenses.

 

[ExpatPacker]

Palmer, an excellent QB with an accurate ball, misses on 2 passes badly but it was him and not the pass rush that created those misses? I disagree. Palmer looked scared the entire second half. I think those were hearing footsteps passes. It was odd that we sacked him twice on their first series and then only twice more. Dude was NOT hanging on to that ball!

I agree, running the ball inside may be your best bet, but it's far from a gimmie. Then again, without Tree, I suspect GB will at least test the left side.

Nothing's a gimme, but realize that the Packers' interior is outstanding: Sitton is Pro-bowl at RG, Linsley at C was a serious contender for ROY and looks even better in his 2nd year, and TJ Lang is very solid at LG. As a unit they are the anchor of this OL and they have shown that they can handle the best of them on the other side of the ball.

 

[Brian Demarest]

My goodness. After reading this, I feel it's fruitless for us to show up and play this game. We have no chance to win.
Woe is us!

Ok, I'm done with my pity party.

We're 4-0, have one of the best trigger men in the history of this planet and right now, I think WE are the baddest mothers in the valley. We'll win this game by more than a TD against a very respectable foe.

All true until the last sentence. One never knows!

Seriously, I'm just trying to offer a deeper insight into the Rams. You are welcome to come crow in our house, Rams On Demand.

You know, I won't be surprised if we lose by more than a score. Down to the last fan we didn't mark this game a W. But, I also won't be surprised if we don't lose. Rams are better than their stats and W/L and for us, this is possibly the first time we get to see the whole offense.

 

[Brian Demarest]

He's had an ankle sprain ever since early in the Seahawks game. If he can play he's our #2 WR behind Cobb right now and yes the man is good but imo I think they'll sit him out this week still

So, keep him in FF and just let him rest on the bench?

 

[Brian Demarest]

Good posting Brian Demarest. You earned my respect with those posts and with this:I was fortunate to become a Packers fan when Lombardi arrived and being a fan was of course easy then. But I remained a fanatic through what some of us refer to as the dark ages. From 1968 to 1991 the Packers played in three playoff games and two of them were in the strike season (1982). They won one of those games. In those 24 seasons they had a winning record in 5. Fanatical perseverance has paid off but that experience makes me appreciate fanatical, knowledgeable fans with a sense of perspective no matter which team they root for.

Every once in a while work interferes with my posting and that's the case now, so I'll only post I don't remember the last time Sitton was handled on a consistent basis.

Thanks for the compliment. I may be a homer, but I try to temper it with reality and see it with my own eyes.

They don't call it the Lombardi Trophy for nothing. Do you think best coach ever? It's a solid argument.

I envy you and I hate the GB string of HOF QBs while we dumpster dove after Warner and Bulger.

I moved to STL in 1997 and dropped my old team, the Saints, and embraced the Rams when they were a joke. It paid off fast. Greatest Show on Turf, if that's the best the Rams ever play, it was a payoff I'll never forget. My WIFE was insisting we go to the victory parade.

Love me some football and have followed GB from afar since I became a fan. Right about now I wish Rams were publicly owned.

Sitton? Well, he's 29 and about to face what may be the best D line he's ever faced. I know, it's Sitton, but this line is for real. Their name is the Mob Squad, and they earned it.

 

[Brian Demarest]

Nothing's a gimme, but realize that the Packers' interior is outstanding: Sitton is Pro-bowl at RG, Linsley at C was a serious contender for ROY and looks even better in his 2nd year, and TJ Lang is very solid at LG. As a unit they are the anchor of this OL and they have shown that they can handle the best of them on the other side of the ball.

No, they haven't. That comes Sunday.

THEN they can say they have shown that they can handle the best of them and I will have your back. You shut down Donald and the Mob Squad?

 

[RRyder]

So, keep him in FF and just let him rest on the bench?

As of right now that'd be the smart play. Definitely shouldn't cut him. Whether to play him or not there hasn't been any news on him this week yet but I'd bet he sits one more week

 

[ExpatPacker]

No, they haven't. That comes Sunday.

THEN they can say they have shown that they can handle the best of them and I will have your back. You shut down Donald and the Mob Squad?

If you want an informed analysis of the Rams from the Packers' side, take a look at Bob McGinn's piece, "Packers next opponent: St. Louis Rams Scouting Report." He does this for every team the Packers play. McGinn is far and away the most respected sports writer for the Packers. You can find it under the All Other Team Discussions here or under jsonline.com/sports.

 

[Jerellh528]

All true until the last sentence. One never knows!

Seriously, I'm just trying to offer a deeper insight into the Rams. You are welcome to come crow in our house, Rams On Demand.

You know, I won't be surprised if we lose by more than a score. Down to the last fan we didn't mark this game a W. But, I also won't be surprised if we don't lose. Rams are better than their stats and W/L and for us, this is possibly the first time we get to see the whole offense.

Said every fan of every team ever.

 

[Brian Demarest]

Said every fan of every team ever.

Yes...many do. Some actually know what they are talking about.

 

[Brian Demarest]

If you want an informed analysis of the Rams from the Packers' side, take a look at Bob McGinn's piece, "Packers next opponent: St. Louis Rams Scouting Report." He does this for every team the Packers play. McGinn is far and away the most respected sports writer for the Packers. You can find it under the All Other Team Discussions here or under jsonline.com/sports.

It was an interesting read in places but far too dependent on stats and lacking in insight.

When people start talking about games and players long gone, I glaze over. They lost more in sunshine than cloudy days five seasons ago? You don't say?

I know for a fact that there's not a person on earth that knows what they will see Sunday from the Rams, and that includes me. This is a 4 season rebuilt team that had no QB just now coming online, barely. The talent they will bring is only denied by those who know nothing about it, and that's OK. Saying Foles is this or Tavon is that or... whatever... none of these writers have seen this complete team yet.

The Rams are sick with talented players. It doesn't mean they will click and beat an almost unbeatable team in their house, but I will bet my last dollar they are far better than the casual observer thinks they will be.

We all know about GB and Lacy and Cobb. Rodgers is a badass.

Few know Rams can stop Lacy and have stopped many a RB of his caliber. Cobb? Over the middle? He better be slick as an eel and clutch that ball like his only born child, because those safeties are unforgiving and will also take balls away if they get any chance. McDonald once tackled a player by grabbing his **** and dragging him down to the ground. I **** you not. He **** tackled a man. Seriously. Wear your jocks.

Cobb WILL get his catches. Will he keep them? Will he regret catching them? Will he get **** tackled?

Rodgers? We have one shot. Hit hit hit and hit again. But that is what we do well.

If GB blows us out or wins decisively... I get it... the world gets it... It's a damn good team. But I don't expect it if the Rams roll out their entire roster for the first time and they are who I believe they are. Mark my words, this is going to be a brawl. (I reserve the right to unmark my words at any time during or after the game, amen)