Official 2023 season opener pregame thread: @Chicago Bears

[OldSchool101]

Actually, curse dates back to the 1200s. It was loosely a term for anger, and somehow related to vocal anger. It was about 500 years later that it was turned into the form we see it used today.

Studying the evolution of words and language is boring, so most people don't find it interesting enough to try. I hate to admit it, but at one time, I enjoyed doing that, and did quite a bit of it to insure I was using correct words when I was writing something from a bygone era.

In the 1400s, if someone was mad at someone, they'd say; "Curse them!" Anger.

As an example, if it was 1895, and people were having fun, you would refer to them as having a gay old time. To today's reader, it has a totally different connotation.

Yes. I’ve cursed at more than a few Bears players. Heck truth be known I’ve cursed a few forum members!
But then I came to my senses and now I primarily just do NFC North curses.

 

[gopkrs]

I hope Tucker Craft gets a chance to show his running after the catch ability Sunday. So a pass that gives him a chance to do something with the ball. Not in the flat against two or three defenders.

 

[gopkrs]

What I am reading, the bears are feeling very confident. Well, it's the first game.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Lots of folks writing off the Packers because we lost our HOF QB. We did not.
We lost an average QB. Aaron Rodgers did not play at a HOF level last season. He was average to a bit below average QB last season and we still just missed the playoffs. I think with improvements at OL, DL, MLB, and OLB, we should be a borderline playoff team if Love is a bit below average. Should he play good, which I am expecting, we should be a feared team that gets into the playoffs.

I'm shocked the Packers are underdogs in this game. If I had a nearby sportsbook, I would put some $ where my mouth is.

Packers 27 - Bears 16

Love has higher QB rating in this game than Fields, and that will be true at the end of the season as well.

Musgrave and doubs get TDs. AJ gets a TD run as well.

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[OldSchool101]

I hope Tucker Craft gets a chance to show his running after the catch ability Sunday. So a pass that gives him a chance to do something with the ball. Not in the flat against two or three defenders.

I think it’ll be wise to utilize the quick passing game early. On your note we utilized our TE’s or slot Wideout more in the passing game to get that ball out quick while the Bears are overzealous

 

[sschind]

Once in school many moons ago we had Penmanship class. I refused to participate and they called my parents in for a conference. My Mom asked me why in just that one class I would not communicate? I told them because ever since I was a young child I had been warned not to cursive.
It makes sense why my teacher kept giving me the lowest “F” letter grade. I suppose looking back she was just trying to get to the bottom of it all.

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[milani]

Just a gut feeling right now, but I think the Packers are going to win this game decisively. I'm pretty excited for the season.

If they do it will be the coaching that does it. Young players on the road with their patriarch gone will be on their own. If they can their confidence will escalate. Lombardi's first Packer game was against the heavily favored Bears and they carried him off the field after the upset. Be nice if this young time can taste that exuberance.

 

[weeds]

As I tell most young people, a well placed occasional curse word is effective. Cursing every other word loses it's effect and means you're too dumb to think of the right word.

Ahhhhh..... BUT .... what about choosing the right curse word? The ability to piece curse words that have never been pieced together before is a highly under-rated form of communication. Such as: "Cussy darn, poopie swear" ... one of my favorites ... or ... "shuzzzbutt"

 

[tynimiller]

If they do it will be the coaching that does it. Young players on the road with their patriarch gone will be on their own. If they can their confidence will escalate. Lombardi's first Packer game was against the heavily favored Bears and they carried him off the field after the upset. Be nice if this young time can taste that exuberance.

We have plenty of veteran leaders on Defense and a couple on offense - I have as much confidence in this team winning this game as I did with the 2022 Packers winning down the stretch of their last six games...and we had the patriarch as you put it.

These two teams have a ton of unknowns and are still trying to figure out if the QB they have is in fact the QB of their respective futures. If there was ever a coin-toss game lately in this series it is this one.

 

[Poppa San]

Packers will have 4 different starters on offense and three or four on defense from the last time these two teams met. QB, TE, LT, WR on offense (Bakh was out, his appendix maybe[?]) On defense Packers started in the nickel and two DL started so Reed is gone. Amos is gone. Nixon won't start the game as the 5th DB probably and Enagbare or Gary is a tossup to make it one more.

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[OldSchool101]

Packers will have 4 different starters on offense and three or four on defense from the last time these two teams met. QB, TE, LT, WR on offense (Bakh was out, his appendix maybe[?]) On defense Packers started in the nickel and two DL started so Reed is gone. Amos is gone. Nixon won't start the game as the 5th DB probably and Enagbare or Gary is a tossup to make it one more.

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There are some that theorize that very thing makes it harder for teams to counter those players. They have very little film on them etc. it’s like the New Kids in Town

 

[jetfixer]

I predict there will be a huge over reaction either way. 24-21 Pack!

 

[OldSchool101]

I predict there will be a huge over reaction either way. 24-21 Pack!

Hey Pitt if we wallop the Bears, we’ll be like the Colorado of the NFL!

 

[milani]

There are some that theorize that very thing makes it harder for teams to counter those players. They have very little film on them etc. it’s like the New Kids in Town

I believe the Bears are a better team than a year ago. Now I may be wrong. Fields has some experience now. He is healthy. And if the Bears use the RPO like Philly does it will create havoc for the defense. At least the Bears are not the Eagles. Rotate DL because on a warm September Sunday Fields can wear you out like Tarkenton back in the 60s.

 

[milani]

What I am reading, the bears are feeling very confident. Well, it's the first game.

After their last 4 seasons they have to be feeling better.

 

[OldSchool101]

I believe the Bears are a better team than a year ago. Now I may be wrong. Fields has some experience now. He is healthy. And if the Bears use the RPO like Philly does it will create havoc for the defense. At least the Bears are not the Eagles. Rotate DL because on a warm September Sunday Fields can wear you out like Tarkenton back in the 60s.

Yes. We always have to respect the strength of our opponent. That said, this Bears team is very beatable. IMO our Defense is also better against the Run than we were a year ago. The only place I saw is slight regression is with Amos departure. I see our DL as more disruptive, we’re healthy and fast at LB. We seem to be a continuation of the end of 2022, but with better depth pieces. Don’t be surprised to see Gary or Van Ness come in relief and play a quarter worth of snaps. The Bears Offense will be playing the early beginnings of a top 6-10 rated Defense that seems more motivated.

 

[milani]

Yes. We always have to respect the strength of our opponent. However this team is very beatable. IMO our Defense is also better against the Run than we were a year ago. The only place I saw is regress slightly is with Amos departure. I see our DL as more disruptive, we’re healthy and fast at LB. We seem to be a continuation of the end of 2022, but with better depth pieces. Don’t be surprised to see Gary or Van Ness come in relief and play a quarter worth of snaps. The Bears Offense will be playing the early beginnings of a top 6-10 rated Defense seems more motivated.

We have to avoid the silly penalties. Now the Bears no longer have that RB who punished us the last several years either.

 

[OldSchool101]

I meant to say I do think the Bears could be slightly better on Offense but they actually invested more in Defense. That’s why a Road victory signals good things to come. If we can go in and steal a Road Win at Soldier? That’s really impressive and it’ll get people talking. We’re probably looking at an 8 Win Bears team.

No Offense to what should be a good player later on. But Darnell Wright (#10 overall)
is going to have his hands full with 2nd year Enagbare, Gary and Van Ness as our weakest link.

 

[AmishMafia]

Talk about subjective. Just for fun, searched for "2022 QB rankings", and AR was variously #3, 4, 8, 14, 17, and 26.

Did the same Google search and found, in order:

Nfl.com. 14th
ESPN 26th
Ringer 8th
PFF. 17th
CBS. 16th
247. 14th

Sporting news had him at 3 (the one you found?) and they state its based on prior performance and expected future performance.

As far as actual analysis of performance? He looks fairly average.

 

[gopkrs]

I believe the Bears are a better team than a year ago. Now I may be wrong. Fields has some experience now. He is healthy. And if the Bears use the RPO like Philly does it will create havoc for the defense. At least the Bears are not the Eagles. Rotate DL because on a warm September Sunday Fields can wear you out like Tarkenton back in the 60s.

I hadn't given any thought to the rpo. That could be what the bears will do. Tougher to throw the ball but gets him to the outside where he maybe only has to lateral or keep it.

 

[PikeBadger]

If they score 30 a game, on average, they will be in the Super Bowl.

Totally agree.

 

[milani]

Totally agree.

Well, over the course of 17 regular games in 2022 both the Eagles and Chiefs each averaged 28 points per game. I guess that is why their SB was so close and right to the wire.

 

[Voyageur]

You can score 24 points a game as long as your defense holds the opposition to under that figure. The fact is, with the inexperience of Love and his receivers, coupled with what appears a lack of defensive depth, and the Packer defense will spend a lot of time on the field. Time equals fatigue, and fatigue equals mistakes. The end result is points on the board for the opposition.

I repeat. If the Packers want to win (this means consistently not just on a singular game basis), they need to score 30 points a game.

 

[XPack]

We lost an average QB. Aaron Rodgers did not play at a HOF level last season. He was average to a bit below average QB last season and we still just missed the playoffs.

Let me clear the air on this.

+ Rodgers is HoF QB. There should be no doubt on this.
+ The average play is more on him not having WRs. Watson has all the makings for a good WR, but that was till his rookie season.
+ The reason we nearly made playoffs is still mostly because of Rodgers not despite him.


He's moved on, and so should be. But the constant deriding him is just annoying and frankly wrong.

We can move ahead without him successfully without having to rewrite history.

 

[PikeBadger]

I believe the Bears are a better team than a year ago. Now I may be wrong. Fields has some experience now. He is healthy. And if the Bears use the RPO like Philly does it will create havoc for the defense. At least the Bears are not the Eagles. Rotate DL because on a warm September Sunday Fields can wear you out like Tarkenton back in the 60s.

How's their offensive line? How well does the rpo work with a lousy o-line and a QB that has fumbleitis?