Niners stud and duds

[Schultz]

I think you should look at the salaries of WRs around the NFL. The Packers are 29th in the league in spending on WRs. That's amazing, with the talent we have. As for Watson, he's a steal at under $3 mill in today's market. The rest of the guys are even more of a steal. We spend just over $8 mill on them, and there are teams that spend 5 times that on their rosters.

The problem is, most people don't actually see the numbers, so they think players are getting outrageous money. When you look at these figures, it will change your entire perspective. It gives both, total team spending, and individual player amounts as well. It's an amazing group for the money.

2024 NFL Wide Receiver Positional Spending

A real-time look at the 2024 positional spending per NFL team.

www.spotrac.com

Please point me to the part that covers the issue I did not address. Thanks in advance.

 

[Heyjoe4]

To be honest, your post didn't mean anything to me, because it didn't address the issue as to how well he's doing in comparison to others in the same class, and across the board as a WR. And yes, whether you like it or not, money is an issue related to production and ROI.

Watson was the 7th WR picked in 2022. The other six were in the first round. Watson is a 2nd round pick. Of the six who were drafted ahead of him, three are ranked ahead of him today as far as productive value in the entire league. Drake London is #12, Garrett Wilson at #15, and Jameson Williams at #34. Watson is ranked at #46, and Doubs at 53. That tells me that both of them were quality picks already, for their point in the draft.

Across the board, in the NFL, Watson's salary is well within an acceptable range for the production he's given us. Now, if he wouldn't have been facing injuries, that ROI would be even higher.

I think you better learn to do research before you start acting indignant because someone didn't agree with you. That's childish at best.

The only problem I see is that Watson's value in FA will be greater than what the Packers are willing to pay. I think that's what happened with MVS. The Packers were willing to go to $10 mil/year and KC offered $11 mil/year (something like that). GB didn't match.

That's not apples to apples. Watson, imo, is a much better WR than MVS. But while the numbers might be higher, the logic is the same. Cap-rich teams will outbid the Packers. When that happens, Gluten and Russ Ball have to decide if they'll match. Right now I'd say no. But that's a problem for next season. For now, a Thanksgiving win over the fish would be nice!

 

[Thirteen Below]

I think you should look at the salaries of WRs around the NFL. The Packers are 29th in the league in spending on WRs. That's amazing, with the talent we have.

And just consider the ramifications on the rest of the team - how much money we have left over for other positions, how many options that gives Gutekunst to add talent.

We'd better enjoy it while it lasts, because unless Gute can keep working the "wide receiver mojo" every year or two in the draft, in a couple of years there are going to be some hard choices to make on that position group. We'll probably never see this again in our lifetimes - a quarterback as good as Love, and a wide receiver corps that's probably the best in the league, and all on rookie contracts.

This team needs to capitalize on this conjunction, and make hay while the sun shines. Because in a couple of years, a much larger percentage of our cap is going to have to go to receivers, leaving less money for other needs.

Oh yeah. Richard’s hands were like glue. Obviously he was like a Turtle after the catch though. If he caught a 8 yard pass he was good for at least 0.5 yard after the catch.

Rodgers was a phenomenon. The man was a black hole who sucked in every pass that came anywhere near him; he had a career catch rate of 67.6 - which as near as I can tell, was easily the best of any Packer receiver since they started keeping that stat in 1992. That's significantly better than Greg Jennings (58.9), Davante Adams (63.6), Donald Driver (60.2), and even Jordy Nelson (66.3).

He was just so damned slow, though. If you cut off his hands and put them on top of Christian Watson's legs, he'd make Travis Kelce look like a scrub.

 

[milani]

And just consider the ramifications on the rest of the team - how much money we have left over for other positions, how many options that gives Gutekunst to add talent.

We'd better enjoy it while it lasts, because unless Gute can keep working the "wide receiver mojo" every year or two in the draft, in a couple of years there are going to be some hard choices to make on that position group. We'll probably never see this again in our lifetimes - a quarterback as good as Love, and a wide receiver corps that's probably the best in the league, and all on rookie contracts.

This team needs to capitalize on this conjunction, and make hay while the sun shines. Because in a couple of years, a much larger percentage of our cap is going to have to go to receivers, leaving less money for other needs.



Rodgers was a phenomenon. The man was a black hole who sucked in every pass that came anywhere near him; he had a career catch rate of 67.6 - which as near as I can tell, was easily the best of any Packer receiver since they started keeping that stat in 1992. That's significantly better than Greg Jennings (58.9), Davante Adams (63.6), Donald Driver (60.2), and even Jordy Nelson (66.3).

He was just so damned slow, though. If you cut off his hands and put them on top of Christian Watson's legs, he'd make Travis Kelce look like a scrub.

It is a wonder he lumbered down the field on Rodgers Hail Mary. If the Lions made Rodgers throw sooner he does not get there. Richard also made a big catch in a playoff game following the 2016 season against the Boys in the end zone. ARod had bought time to make the throw.

 

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It is a wonder he lumbered down the field on Rodgers Hail Mary. If the Lions made Rodgers throw sooner he does not get there. Richard also made a big catch in a playoff game following the 2016 season against the Boys in the end zone. ARod had bought time to make the throw.

If I remember right, R. Rodgers was still "running" downfield when A. Rodgers let the ball fly. I should watch that again, though, just for old time's sake.

 

[DoURant]

Rodgers was the master of the 1 yd catch, when he needed 2 for a first down.