AmishMafia
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I hope so! Green Bay was removed form Wiki. I just checked. Maybe Poker having fun with us after all.
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Muhammad Wilkerson????
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Ted Thompson's Mind
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I would've signed more free agents, but I couldn’t find anyone that would eat dinner at 4 o' clock.
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Just looked and I have a feeling that the Amish Mafia had something to do with it appearing and disappearing. I saw distinct traces of buggy prints on the site.
AmishMafia
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Just looked and I have a feeling that the Amish Mafia had something to do with it appearing and disappearing. I saw distinct traces of buggy prints on the site.
Not me. Our Amish Hightech Crime Division is working hard at developing some cyber crime stuff to attack computers with.
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Honestly, i don' think we are getting very close.
Pokerbrat2000
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Not me. Our Amish Hightech Crime Division is working hard at developing some cyber crime stuff to attack computers with.
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Honestly, i don' think we are getting very close.
You aren't fooling me, I saw the latest Amish technology in satellite and communications, you all are spying on every barn in the world with this!
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AmishMafia
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Yes, and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids! I mean hungry cattle. We would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the hungry cattle eating the dish.
Not in the current year but just to clarify if those incentives are met and the money is paid it goes against the following years cap. As you have said the Packers are better off in 2019 so it still might make sense but some people feel as though all you need to do is give players incentive laden contracts and everything is golden. Incentives need to be low enough for the player to think they could reach them or the bonus has to be high enough to make the reward worth it or the player is not going to sign. If the bonus is high enough the team must be careful or they may be on the hook for a large bonus next year. Lets say the Packers offer Wilkerson a contract that pays him 20 million if he is named the Superbowl MVP. Since he was not the SB MVP last year its an unlikely to be earned incentive and doesn't count against the 2018 cap. Now lets say the Packers beat the Patriots 10-9 in a defensive struggle that has Wilkerson getting 4 sacks 2 forced fumbles and a pick 6 on the last play of the game and he is named the MVP. Suddenly the Packers are on the hook for 20 million in 2019 that they were not expecting.
Now part of you is saying who care its worth it and it probably is but when players need to be cut to make up for it you might be singing a different tune.
Pokerbrat2000
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Oh it's just heating up, we know who really runs the draft in Green Bay. Once in awhile they hit but they are also capable of a swing and Amish.
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gbgary
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he's not even a big fish and he left without a deal. not a good sign.
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Wilkerson is headed to New Orleans on his next FA stop.
SoonerPack
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He made clear he's not in the signing phase yet. He is meeting with a couple teams then making a decision. I don't read too much into the lack of a signature today. The fact we got the first meeting bodes well for us and I still feel good about landing him once this process plays out. Also, I'm not sure what your definition of big fish is but Mo is not some stiff. If he's motivated he could return to form and be one of the leagues more disruptive forces in the middle.
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Nothin’ to worry about. He’s just trying to get a couple more free meals before he inks up with Pettine
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HardRightEdge
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I found one in about 2 minutes with a google search discussing 20 something incentive bonuses from last year, but I didn't read all of it so I didn't post it.So are many College textbooks! What ya want? An article from March of 2018!
Forget about it (with a Classic NY accent)
Vinatieri had a percent made on FGs incentive. He was undone by a blizzard in Buffalo that caused two misses. I thought that was interesting.
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I love this time of year.
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HardRightEdge
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Every dollar of cash money paid to a player, by salary, bonus or incentive, guaranteed or not, counts against the cap sooner or later. Over the long haul, cash and cap are equal.
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HardRightEdge
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That's because you don't do pre-dinner drinks, Ted. That was probably for the best given you're not a sterling conversationalist.
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Pokerbrat2000
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Jeeez....Wilkerson's Mom is getting involved now! LOL
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy
I guess she is mad that Manish said this:
Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN
Manish Mehta Retweeted Ian Rapoport
Wilkerson is getting some terrible advice. The last place he should be near given his issues with alcohol is Bourbon Street/French Quarter. Who is advising this guy?
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet
This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy
I guess she is mad that Manish said this:
Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN
Manish Mehta Retweeted Ian Rapoport
Wilkerson is getting some terrible advice. The last place he should be near given his issues with alcohol is Bourbon Street/French Quarter. Who is advising this guy?
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HardRightEdge
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Remember Greg Jennings' sister?
During the Combine coverage one of the commentators mentioned that one of the prospects is having his mom act as his agent. It kinda makes sense; why pay some guy 10% when there's so little wiggle room in the rookie salary scale. It would be more prudent long term, however, to establish an agent relationship. And if "Ballers" somewhat reflects reality, which it probably does for some players, agents can provide some value added services.
Maybe helicopter football moms is a new trend?
gbgary
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the only way letting him go without an agreement is a positive is if this medium fish was asking for big fish money.
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HardRightEdge
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You guys don't get he'll sell to the highest bidder and he won't know who that is until he makes the rounds? Maybe it's the highest "contending" bidder, but the highest among options nonetheless.
We kick his tires, he kicks ours, and I hope to h*ll we are not the winning bidder.
gbgary
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plenty of guys sign with the first team they visit...given an offer they can't refuse. he must not have gotten it.
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HardRightEdge
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Agents have a good idea what a player can get. The only guys who might sign on a first visit are the guys who have only one expression of serious interest or the offer is so generous as to be above what the agent was targeting.
You don't even know how many teams a guy is visiting or has visited. For example, Thompson signing Peppers was out of the blue. Nobody leaked that the Packers were talking to him. But who else did he visit that wasn't leaked? You can ask that question of any other player.
Those are usually the offers we fans consider to be overpaying. and then we complain about that. It's either "He left without signing a deal? WTF we will never go anywhere with this cheap front office making the decisions" or it's "we gave him how much? WTF we will never go anywhere with this front office throwing around money like that" I know you can't please everyone but the funny thing is sometimes its the same fans with both attitudes.
Some fans just cant be pleased.
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