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I'm not predicting anything for this coming year. When the season starts; I'm going into the game thinking we are gonna win it. Worried about the coach being too conservative on D. He needs to give Q a bit of a free hand imho. The division will be a lot tougher this coming year. So more games against tougher opponents there.
 

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The defense was actually pretty damn good after Thanksgiving. We gave up fewer points than anyone but the Ravens and we played against better offenses in that stretch than they did. As for play-calling criticisms, I haven't seen anyone complaining about that other than the resident forum experts. How do you know what plays he calls? Rodgers changed the play more often than not and often ignored the called plays completely.
I can ask you the same thing. How do you know what calls he called or if Rodgers changed them? Seems you’re hell bent on solely blaming Rodgers for the teams failures than anything. Also there have been many people here questioning his play calling.
 

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I can ask you the same thing. How do you know what calls he called or if Rodgers changed them?

I'm not the one making assumptions about bad play-calling though, am I?

Seems you’re hell bent on solely blaming Rodgers for the teams failures than anything. Also there have been many people here questioning his play calling.

I couldn't care less how many people on here question his play-calling. I have yet to see a single person who would actually KNOW anything about it to complain about it. Blaming the play-caller is the classic excuse when people want to absolve players of bad decisions or lack of execution.
 

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I can ask you the same thing. How do you know what calls he called or if Rodgers changed them? Seems you’re hell bent on solely blaming Rodgers for the teams failures than anything. Also there have been many people here questioning his play calling.
For me, he just really did not seem to beat the defenses with his brain. More with his arm. Not worth imho taking the ball to 1 or 2 seconds so damn often.
 

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I'm not the one making assumptions about bad play-calling though, am I?



I couldn't care less how many people on here question his play-calling. I have yet to see a single person who would actually KNOW anything about it to complain about it. Blaming the play-caller is the classic excuse when people want to absolve players of bad decisions or lack of execution.
You asked me how I know about what plays he calls to which you tell me Rodgers changed them and or ignored them. So, how do you know what plays he called and how do you know he changed them? Just say you don’t, it’s fine. You’re dancing around my question.
 
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While that sounds great in theory it doesn't make much sense if the Packers average less than four yards a carry in seven games next season once again.
One of the biggest disappointments from last year, at least for me. I really expected the running game to tear it up.
 

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For me, he just really did not seem to beat the defenses with his brain. More with his arm. Not worth imho taking the ball to 1 or 2 seconds so damn often.
He held on to the ball way too long too. Could be cuz the kids could t run their route or get open but don’t take the sack.
 

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You asked me how I know about what plays he calls to which you tell me Rodgers changed them and or ignored them. So, how do you know what plays he called and how do you know he changed them? You’re dancing around my question.

The point is that you're assuming his play-calling is a problem with no actual evidence to back that up. You're trying to present conjecture as fact, much like Cap'n does. The only excuse for that crap is for purposes of scapegoating. Sorry, but the burden of proof is on the accuser. You don't have to like it.
 

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The point is that you're assuming his play-calling is a problem with no actual evidence to back that up. You're trying to present conjecture as fact, much like Cap'n does. The only excuse for that crap is for purposes of scapegoating. Sorry, but the burden of proof is on the accuser. You don't have to like it.
Still not answering my question. Don’t worry I answered for you. It’s not hard. You’re being a hypocrite.
 

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Still not answering my question. Don’t worry I answered for you. It’s not hard. You’re being a hypocrite.
So let me get this straight. So I ask YOU a question. You tried to dodge it by saying "I can ask you the same thing." At this point, you still haven't answered the original question, but I'm the hypocrite because I didn't answer you when the question was asked of you in the first place? I think it's time to put you in the Bozo bin for a while. Not going to waste any more time on this clown show.
 

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So let me get this straight. So I ask YOU a question. You tried to dodge it by saying "I can ask you the same thing." At this point, you still haven't answered the original question, but I'm the hypocrite because I didn't answer you when the question was asked of you in the first place? I think it's time to put you in the Bozo bin for a while. Not going to waste any more time on this clown show.
So you resort to name calling because I called you out on your bull **** response to my post. My kid is more mature than you. Grow up.
 

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MLF holds a 49-22 record. He is by no stretch of the imagination on anyone's hot seat. Yours doesn't count.
He isn’t now, but depending on next season’s W-L record, he may suddenly find himself there. With Rodgers gone, who else are the fingers going to point at?
 
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So you resort to name calling because I called you out on your bull **** response to my post. My kid is more mature than you. Grow up.
What name did I call you? Can you answer that one? Or are you going to dodge that one too?
 

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Put me in a bozo bin? Therefore I’m a bozo correct? Or is that hard to understand for you too.
 

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He isn’t now, but depending on next season’s W-L record, he may suddenly find himself there. With Rodgers gone, who else are the fingers going to point at?
Don’t give common sense. Some don’t have it.
 
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What name did I call you? Can you answer that one? Or are you going to dodge that one too?

LOL I find it childish, but you did call him a bozo by saying he should be placed in the Bozo bin....come on guys let's keep our feet in the shallow end.
 

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Put me in a bozo bin? Therefore I’m a bozo correct? Or is that hard to understand for you too.
Quit being so sensitive. "Bozo bin" is internet slang for any kind of ignore feature, going back to the Usenet and IRC days. But yes, you have been a clown in this whole thing, having the audacity to call me a hypocrite for not answering a question that you yourself refuse to answer, even though YOU were asked first.

Now do us both a favor. I'll add you to my "Bozo bin" and you add me to yours. I promise it won't hurt MY feelings. No reason for any further interaction between you and I. I don't have time to waste with intellectually dishonest clowns.
 
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For the record, the burden of proof is on the one with the claim or accuser - Crow is 100% correct there.

Ignore feature is for folks that simply cannot behave as an adult in disagreements. :) There I said it - (bozo bin incoming)
 

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Quit being so sensitive. "Bozo bin" is internet slang for any kind of ignore feature, going back to the Usenet and IRC days. But yes, you have been a clown in this whole thing, having the audacity to call me a hypocrite for not answering a question that you yourself refuse to answer, even though YOU were asked first.

Now do us both a favor. I'll add you to my "Bozo bin" and you add me to yours. I promise it won't hurt MY feelings. No reason for any further interaction between you and I. I don't have time to waste with intellectually dishonest clowns.
No skin off my ***. You don’t say anything here worth substance anyway.
 

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For the record, the burden of proof is on the one with the claim or accuser - Crow is 100% correct there.

Ignore feature is for folks that simply cannot behave as an adult in disagreements. :) There I said it - (bozo bin incoming)
Do you always have to butt in? Doesn’t concern you and you’re not a mod. Cmon dude you’re better than that.
 

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For the record, the burden of proof is on the one with the claim or accuser - Crow is 100% correct there.

Ignore feature is for folks that simply cannot behave as an adult in disagreements. :) There I said it - (bozo bin incoming)
And I behaved just fine for your record judge.
 

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Quit being so sensitive. "Bozo bin" is internet slang for any kind of ignore feature, going back to the Usenet and IRC days. But yes, you have been a clown in this whole thing, having the audacity to call me a hypocrite for not answering a question that you yourself refuse to answer, even though YOU were asked first.

Now do us both a favor. I'll add you to my "Bozo bin" and you add me to yours. I promise it won't hurt MY feelings. No reason for any further interaction between you and I. I don't have time to waste with intellectually dishonest clowns.
I don’t have an ignore bin. I’m not a *****. I’ll argue or disagree with anyone that’s ignorant here. It’s more entertaining that way.
 

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For the record, the burden of proof is on the one with the claim or accuser - Crow is 100% correct there.

Ignore feature is for folks that simply cannot behave as an adult in disagreements. :) There I said it - (bozo bin incoming)
I can never bozo bin you bud. You have sense
 

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I don’t have an ignore bin. I’m not a *****. I’ll argue or disagree with anyone that’s ignorant here. It’s more entertaining that way.

So you admit you're only here to argue, not have any kind of honest dialogue. People who demand others to answer their questions but refuse to answer anyone else's are definitely ********s. And you fit the bill to a T. You make dumb claims and then get bent out of shape when you get called on it. And then you call others ignorant. What a buffoon.
 

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