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You do speak the truth about TE's. Usually takes a season or two to develop. Obviously, it is an unknown. I still say that I would rather have our TE group than the Bears. I'm definitely not high on Tonyan. Personal preference I guess. I just don't think he is any good. Don't sleep on Deguara either. This may be his break out season. He's had three seasons to develop and he now... Yeah, I can't even type that and believe it either.
Don't get me wrong, I believe the Packers' tight end group has the potential to develop into a much better unit than the Bears' down the road. But I don't expect them to put up better numbers in 2023.
I think typically across the board the majority of TEs drafted, even the high ones are not put in a scenario where they're being asked to carrying a big chunk of the snaps and possibly the starting in line jobs. Kraft or Musgrave is going to have to emerge as the main inline tight end here unless we sign someone...that alone is going to raise their production by sheer presence of snaps. Won't necessarily mean they're better than some other recent young TEs that didn't produce say the same stat line.
The first three tight ends selected in the 2022 draft all played a decent amount of snaps (McBride 599, Woods 334, Dulcich 497) despite none of them being a first rounder. None of them came close to being as productive as Kmet or Tonyan. Therefore I don't expect Musgrave and/or Kraft to put up impressive numbers in their rookie season either.
Why wouldn't Tonyan put up more than at least one of them? He is the surefire TE2 in Chicago....limited experienced pass catchers in their WR room and Tonyan has solid hands, above average TE IQ and experience making things happen in the NFL. Not too mention Tonyan is arguably their #4 receiving option if not 3b..Mooney and Moore are the only two for sure pass catchers ahead of him and he may be on par with Kmet at this point in Coles' young career.
Musgrave and Kraft are for sure going to be behind Watson and Doubs...most likely Reed and at first perhaps Deguara as well out of the TE and WRs.
As mentioned before in this thread, I fully expect the Bears' tight ends to put up better numbers than the Packers'.