DakotaT said:
pyledriver80 said:
This article CLEARLY states it COULD have happened, I guess you never heard of restructuring deals, trades, etc.
There were dozens of possible scenarios. Didn't Teddy wrap up about 3 Mil. a year on Shermans two year contract, only to let him go after one. Cletidus's injury settlement didn't help. The 800,000 signing bonus he gave Klemm is laughable. Resigning Martin was a joke. O'Dwyer was paid a pretty penny to do nothing.....on and on and on
If you are that near-sighted and uncreative I pity you. Do you have a brother named Ted?
Pyle, I asked you to come up with the $9M this isn't about my creativity. You keep saying how Wahle should have been signed, well show us your cap page. We're dying here. Shut us up once and for all! I'll give you a hint where a lot of that cap money you seek is: check the dead cap space. The fact that you think Sherman's salary counts on the salary cap shows your knowledge of the subject.
By the way I am nearsighted, by I can pick through your BS with 20/20. Have fun with your number crunching.
Oh my god! Didn't you try this with FA guards? It backfired in your face. You made excuses and then started on this. Then I show you proof and you say that wasn't by a CAP EXPERT? What the hell? Wheres your proof he couldn't be resigned by a CAP EXPERT?
Here's a simple question for you - If it was impossible for TT to sign WAhle why would he admit he made a mistake letting him go? PLEASE answer this.
I guess you have never heard of a restructured contract. Do you think I am going to go over 1000 scenarios just to have you move on to something else. You are to irrational to accept reality.
He could have done it and still resigned Franks as well.
He could have kept both and still had plenty of cap room this off-season. Please look at the cap info and do the math. Since signing bonuses are pro-rated both Wahle and Franks could have been signed last season with a back-loaded contract to keep under the cap in 2005.
I really used to respect you man but your constant "give me proof" stuff is lame. You and EVERY OTHER Packer fan, and even TT himself, know Wahle could have been resigned had TT did what he was appointed to do.
Let me try again
On Tuesday, the Packers cut their starting left guard, releasing him to the free-agent market where in a very short while he'll be a man of many riches. After discussing several deals of varying lengths and value, Wahle and the Packers were unable to agree on a renegotiated contract that would reduce his salary cap number of $11.375 million.
"We spent the past couple of weeks in talks that intensified this weekend, and we'll continue to talk," said Neil Cornrich, Wahle's agent. "Regardless of his status, we'll still talk."
The fact of the matter, however, is that the Packers are probably out of it because there will be other teams willing to pay more for Wahle's services. Even with their salary-cap troubles, the Packers could re-sign Wahle if they wanted, but new general manager Ted Thompson is drawing the line on stretching the cap thin.
Once Again
Green Bay -
Al Harris didn't look good at all in the final month, but the Packers can ill afford to have him hit the proverbial wall in '06. The next two cornerbacks, Carroll and Mike Hawkins, are more prospects than players.
Other than Nick Collins, Thompson will have to start all over again at safety.
If Longwell opts for a warm-weather team, the Packers will need both a new kicker and a new punter.
Almost every area of this team will require immediate attention from Thompson, whose priority last winter was what to do at guard. Even though keeping Mike Wahle would have placed an exorbitant percentage of the team's cap on the offensive line, Thompson could have and probably should have done it.
With Wahle and Rivera as the starting guards, the pair allowed 23 "pressures" in 2004, 18 in '03, 18 1/2 in '02 and 22 in '01. With Will Whitticker, Adrian Klemm and Wells playing those positions in '05, the guards yielded 69.
Not only that but a once-vaunted running attack went belly-up as well.
Sherman was instrumental in the signing of Klemm. Thompson drafted Whitticker, and then offensive coordinator Tom Rossley championed Whitticker's cause throughout training camp.
Thus, Sherman got one starter in Klemm and Thompson essentially got the other in Whitticker. The offensive line coaches wanted to make a guard out of Barry, who ended up being wasted in the "U-71" package that became so predictable. It was Sherman who vetoed asking more mentally of Barry, who would prove that he could handle tight end in December, and Thompson chose not to intervene.
"Hey, you want to know why they struggled?" one NFC personnel director said last month. "Look no further than guard, my man."
The whole kit and caboodle in Green Bay failed this season. Thompson, his hand-picked rookie quarterback and the new coach will be trying to head off what could be several years of losing.
It's obvious man, get over it.