Head Coach interviews thread

[PackerfaninCarolina]

And if McDaniels succeeds, in Green Bay or elsewhere, you will amend your comment to "Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien or Josh McDaniels" and when the next guy succeeds you will change it again.

As they say, there is always a first time and if there is a first time there could just as easily be a second time (I added that last part)

Whenever I see such adamant opposition, or support for that matter, to anything some part of me always hopes for the opposite just to see the reaction.

All I can say is it is a good thing for Bill Belichick that he was so wildly successful in his first coaching stint or he never would have gotten another job.

If he succeeds good, but unlike some very stupid fans who spend all day listening to false advertising and buying fools gold from Bayless and Cowherd, I actually know real NFL news and analysis.

All that to say McDaniels has proven he is extremely high risk. Bellichek failed his first time around yes, but he didn't look like a ****** rodeo clown running a team in the ground doing so. If McDaniels is hired and succeeds, good, but with Rodgers at this stage in his career we can't afford buyer's remorse, something McDaniels proves he brings.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Yup. And when has Belichick ever succeeded as a HC outside of Cleveland? Oh wait. After failing and getting fired in Cleveland, had had some success in his 2nd HC job in NE.

Wow. Maybe if you fail at one job doesnt mean you suck.

Comparing McDaniels go around in Denver to Bellichek's stint in Cleveland is RIDICULOUS!!!

 

[AmishMafia]

Comparing McDaniels go around in Denver to Bellichek's stint in Cleveland is RIDICULOUS!!!

You make such a compelling and well reasoned argument. Or is it just your amazing command of the english language that makes your thoughts and ideas so persuasive?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't know enough about McDaniels to really form a solid opinion. However, one thing I do know is that he has studied under the "Master" and that can't be too bad of a thing. Sure Josh didn't cut it in Denver, but that is one team and almost 10 years ago, I am pretty sure he has learned a lot since. Also, last year one of the "perks" that Kraft and Belichick promised McDaniels if he stayed in New England was he would be brought in on more salary cap and team structure informational meetings. If Gute and Murphy think there is a guy that is more fitting for the job, hopefully they go after him, but I think there are a lot worse options, if McDaniels indeed becomes an option.

At least the front office wouldn't have to spend a lot of money on a new placard and stationary, they can just cross out the "Carthy" and insert "Daniels". Just some serious tailoring of the HC's outfits will have to be done.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

You make such a compelling and well reasoned argument. Or is it just your amazing command of the english language that makes your thoughts and ideas so persuasive?

I don't need a damn argument. McDufus's track record speaks for itself.

 

[felix145]

I don't need a damn argument. McDufus's track record speaks for itself.

I hope McDaniels gets the job just to annoy you.

 

[NorwegianPacker]

I don't need a damn argument. McDufus's track record speaks for itself.

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

There's a lotta HCs that's been bad in their first job and learned from it and gone on to do great jobs. Yes, I realize the Colts move last year was a **** move, but none of us know why that happened apart from McDaniels and Irsay who's not exactly the most stable mind in the World. I'm sure they'll ask him in the interview what exactly transpired that day and if they still make the hire I'll trust their judgement.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to believe people learn from their mistakes, especially when you got kicked out the way he did and he had to pick himself up again to be in a position to get HC offers again.

This is a decent read on why he might be completely different this time around, even though I realize some of this is ironic given what happened with the Colts last year

https://www.patspulpit.com/platform...tint-as-broncos-head-coach-belichick-patriots

and this is obviously the original article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-failure-taught-pats-oc-how-to-pick-his-spots

 

[Poppa San]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

surely this isn't your first week on an internet message board is it? And I'll call you Shirley if I want to.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

There's a lotta HCs that's been bad in their first job and learned from it and gone on to do great jobs. Yes, I realize the Colts move last year was a **** move, but none of us know why that happened apart from McDaniels and Irsay who's not exactly the most stable mind in the World. I'm sure they'll ask him in the interview what exactly transpired that day and if they still make the hire I'll trust their judgement.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to believe people learn from their mistakes, especially when you got kicked out the way he did and he had to pick himself up again to be in a position to get HC offers again.

This is a decent read on why he might be completely different this time around, even though I realize some of this is ironic given what happened with the Colts last year

https://www.patspulpit.com/platform...tint-as-broncos-head-coach-belichick-patriots

and this is obviously the original article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-failure-taught-pats-oc-how-to-pick-his-spots

He didn't just fail, he had the Bronco players completely quit and conspire against him. He was the worst coach in Denver history who proved to be nothing but a QB killer and run a predictable scheme. He is a boob who needs Bellichek's umbrella to do anything right.

12 points per game as Rams offensive coordinator. Just 12. Awful especially with a good offense hamboning them like that.

He is not HC material at all and looks defective without star players on the field.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

There's a lotta HCs that's been bad in their first job and learned from it and gone on to do great jobs. Yes, I realize the Colts move last year was a **** move, but none of us know why that happened apart from McDaniels and Irsay who's not exactly the most stable mind in the World. I'm sure they'll ask him in the interview what exactly transpired that day and if they still make the hire I'll trust their judgement.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to believe people learn from their mistakes, especially when you got kicked out the way he did and he had to pick himself up again to be in a position to get HC offers again.

This is a decent read on why he might be completely different this time around, even though I realize some of this is ironic given what happened with the Colts last year

https://www.patspulpit.com/platform...tint-as-broncos-head-coach-belichick-patriots

and this is obviously the original article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-failure-taught-pats-oc-how-to-pick-his-spots

Welcome aboard, as a "new guy" you have to earn your stripes to be able to go after PFC.

But, in all seriousness, if you comb the thread(s), he has stated his case many times. Wanting to agree or disagree with any or all of it, that is anyone's choice.

 

[AmishMafia]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

There's a lotta HCs that's been bad in their first job and learned from it and gone on to do great jobs. Yes, I realize the Colts move last year was a **** move, but none of us know why that happened apart from McDaniels and Irsay who's not exactly the most stable mind in the World. I'm sure they'll ask him in the interview what exactly transpired that day and if they still make the hire I'll trust their judgement.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to believe people learn from their mistakes, especially when you got kicked out the way he did and he had to pick himself up again to be in a position to get HC offers again.

This is a decent read on why he might be completely different this time around, even though I realize some of this is ironic given what happened with the Colts last year

https://www.patspulpit.com/platform...tint-as-broncos-head-coach-belichick-patriots

and this is obviously the original article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-failure-taught-pats-oc-how-to-pick-his-spots

Logical, polite, well reasoned, supported position with reference, and open minded - you are new here, arent you.

Welcome and nice post!

 

[pacmaniac]

So will McDaniels pick us or the Browns? That is the big question now.

 

[NorwegianPacker]

surely this isn't your first week on an internet message board is it? And I'll call you Shirley if I want to.

No it isn't haha. Been around on other boards, primarily about soccer though. And lurked a bit on the Packers sub-reddit. I found this forum by chance a few days ago and signed up.

 

[Poppa San]

So will McDaniels pick us or the Browns? That is the big question now.

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[rodell330]

@rodell330 why did Josh walk away from the colts?

This may sound crazy but from what I heard it was the misses who got a bad vibe from Irsay...it’s like The McDaniels’s and the Colts front office had trust issues from the beginning. They also couldn’t promise that he wouldn’t be canned if he had a bad season In his first year. Even with all that he was still going to take the job but It was Bob Kraft who swayed him and convinced him to stay in NE not B.B. They offered him a pay raise and a HC in waiting title... but again, that was Kraft not BB. It was more about stability than anything. NE offers stability...at the time Indy did not. He wants the Packers job because with Aaron Rodgers you don’t think of a perennial loser do you? Not only that, BB has not mentioned he plans on retiring any time soon.

 

[AmishMafia]

Packers to interview Gase. I think Gase is likely one of the leading candidates. I understand he is highly regarded by a lot of football people.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/04/report-packers-to-interview-adam-gase

 

[sschind]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

There's a lotta HCs that's been bad in their first job and learned from it and gone on to do great jobs. Yes, I realize the Colts move last year was a **** move, but none of us know why that happened apart from McDaniels and Irsay who's not exactly the most stable mind in the World. I'm sure they'll ask him in the interview what exactly transpired that day and if they still make the hire I'll trust their judgement.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to believe people learn from their mistakes, especially when you got kicked out the way he did and he had to pick himself up again to be in a position to get HC offers again.

This is a decent read on why he might be completely different this time around, even though I realize some of this is ironic given what happened with the Colts last year

https://www.patspulpit.com/platform...tint-as-broncos-head-coach-belichick-patriots

and this is obviously the original article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-failure-taught-pats-oc-how-to-pick-his-spots

Welcome NP. You are a new guy but from reading a few of your posts I think you will fit in well.

In defense of PFC, he has many times outlined his opposition to McDaniels. I think the post you quoted and replied to was more of a tongue in cheek response to the earlier post by Amish which was a bit of a shot. As far as the childish nicknames ... get used to them.

 

[BrokenArrow]

If he succeeds good, but unlike some very stupid fans who spend all day listening to false advertising and buying fools gold from Bayless and Cowherd, I actually know real NFL news and analysis.

Yes, you're a true legend in your own mind.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

Just FYI, this is what he always does. He insults, makes up childish names, degrades anyone he doesn't like - going so far as to actually wish ill-will toward them, and makes broad statements of fact without bothering to back them up with anything substantive because he can't imagine that anyone would dare challenge his absolute knowledge of all things. Welcome aboard!

 

[BrokenArrow]

@rodell330 why did Josh walk away from the colts?

Colts spoke too soon. This likely happens more often that you'd think but most teams are smart enough to put ink to paper before making an announcement.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Welcome NP. You are a new guy but from reading a few of your posts I think you will fit in well.

In defense of PFC, he has many times outlined his opposition to McDaniels. I think the post you quoted and replied to was more of a tongue in cheek response to the earlier post by Amish which was a bit of a shot. As far as the childish nicknames ... get used to them.

And one problem I've noticed frequently is so many fans know very little about Josh McDaniels. And even those who do know he failed don't know why.

Another reason just to be clear as to why I get fired up at some fans here is that there is a BIG problem of listening to what talking heads say and buying their candy. It's a real problem because many of them like Cowherd know nothing about football. It would not be untrue to say a good many posters on this forum know way more than he does but aren't doing his job because we aren't interested in radio.

 

[azrsx05]

I'd much rather take Adam Gase over McDaniels. He seems to really get the best out of quarterbacks. I think just like any coach in Miami, they are set up for failure. He would definitely bring back this offense back to relevancy

 

[rodell330]

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[rmontro]

Another reason just to be clear as to why I get fired up at some fans here is that there is a BIG problem of listening to what talking heads say and buying their candy. It's a real problem because many of them like Cowherd know nothing about football.

This is a straw man because I can't think of one poster here who puts much stock into what Cowherd or Bayless says.

 

[rodell330]

This is a straw man because I can't think of one poster here who puts much stock into what Cowherd or Bayless says.

Yea wrong group. 98% of us hate BOTH those guys. The other 2% either like Cowherd or Bayless...but not both.