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This is a straw man because I can't think of one poster here who puts much stock into what Cowherd or Bayless says.

Yea wrong group. 98% of us hate BOTH those guys. The other 2% either like Cowherd or Bayless...but not both.
 

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The majority of sports fans don't take Cowherd or Bayless seriously. Personally I dislike the former more. At least Skip can be entertaining watching him squeal when the Cowboys lose. Colin just has a new random take every day.

I cannot vouch for its validity, but I remember someone on the subreddit claiming Cowherd's intense dislike for Rodgers grew after Rodgers agreed to an interview only to confront him about some of the BS Colin's sources made up about him and the Packers the last few years.

When I think about it Cowherd's position on Rodgers since the summer changed a lot. From begging him to get out of Green Bay so he doesn't waste his one in a lifetime talent to comparing him with Big Ben and claiming they're pretty much the same player.
 

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If this forum was around in the 50's we would have posters whining about some Italian guy from NY becoming our coach. And really, take the Colts, Chargers, Raiders, and Bengals as teams with dysfunctional ownership, can't blame him for bailing. Probably got there, has a sit down with Irsay, and came to his senses.
 

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Ryan Tannehill has never made it to a Super Bowl without Gase.


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So our final known interview is Sunday. I believe we cant sign a coach who's team is still playing, only interview. If on Monday we have no HC, we can cross off the list: Gase, LaFluer, Pagano, Philbin, Munchak and Caldwell.

That leaves us with:
McDaniel: Pats
Flores: Pats
Campbell: saints
Carmicheal: saints

New interviews maybe added as teams drop out of the playoffs. The interview rule only covers teams with a first round bye.
 
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Yeah, I don't know about that "every season" bit, but clearly for a coach coming in, anything less than an eventual Super Bowl win will be viewed as a failure.

In those seasons that start with the Pack in the top few, yes. In seasons like 2011 and 2014, yes. For the old timers, no.
 

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Any one see report of new england shake up?
The same reports were circulating around this time last year, that Belichick wanted to go to the Giants. Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't true.
Seems rather sudden that they pop up again now, after the past year seemed to have soothed a lot of the drama rumored to be going on in NE.
The issue for us is if this affects the Packers head coaching position, if they wanted one of the Patriot coaches they've been interviewing.
 

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In those seasons that start with the Pack in the top few, yes. In seasons like 2011 and 2014, yes. For the old timers, no.
I realize I don't represent everybody, but I'm an old timer. And I feel like as long as we have Rodgers, if the new head coach can't deliver us a Super Bowl win, then it's a failure, on some level at least.
 

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Adam Gase is interesting. It's hard to get a good read on him. Is he Todd Haley with zero people skills, or is he just a strong-willed head coach who won't abide players trying to be bigger than the team?

From the articles I've read, it seems clear that he hated how meddling ownership was in Miami and wasn't afraid to voice that directly to Ross. There have been some vocal critics of him from the locker room (e.g. Jarvis Landry), but a lot more players who seemed to really love and respect him. It also seems clear that he had too much personnel control in Miami.

Only the interviewers have a prayer of discerning whether or not Gase has the people skills to work as a head coach, but if that answer is yes then he's pretty high up on the list for me... maybe #1.

I think you have to take results in Miami with a grain of salt too. With Cleveland getting its act together, the Dolphins and Raiders are vying with each other for the title of most dysfunctional franchise.
 

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I know I'm a new guy here with not even 10 posts, but you definitely need an argument for why you're against him and why he would be such a terrible choice. Such childish nicknames won't really strengthen your case.

The second two bolds pretty much explain the first. :)
 
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So our final known interview is Sunday. I believe we cant sign a coach who's team is still playing, only interview. If on Monday we have no HC, we can cross off the list: Gase, Pagano, Philbin, Munchak and Caldwell.

That leaves us with:
McDaniel: Pats
LaFluer: Saints Titans
Flores: Pats
Campbell: saints
Demovsky also has Pete Carmichael, the Saints OC, being interviewd tomorrow in New Orleans:

"The Packers interview list for this weekend expanded by one when former Dolphins coach Adam Gase was added for Sunday. So that means after Josh McDaniels and Brian Flores in New England on Friday, Dan Campbell and Pete Carmichael in New Orleans on Sunday, it will be Gase and Titans offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur on Sunday, presumably in Green Bay."

You should be aware that by rule:
  • the only playoff coaches that can be interviewed so far for a HC job are those with a bye week which is why Saints and Pats assistants are being interviewed now with team permission
  • coaches on teams that win in the Wild Card round can be interviewed next week but only with team permission
  • coaches on teams that win in the Divisional round cannot be interviewed at all the following week
  • coaches on teams that advance to the Super Bowl can be interviewed in the off week only with permission
I don't see any reason to rule out anybody 1) unless that guy signs elsewhere or 2) until the Packers sign their guy. A guy on a team in the Wild Card round that marches to the Superbowl would not even be available to interview until after that game if his team denied permission along the way.

Besides, even among that group of 4 guys from the first round bye teams, you could have a situation where 1) they all express disinterest, 2) some or all express interest but wish to mull other options or 3) the Packers would not want to make a decision until a second interview with the guys they like best in that group or 4) the Packers favorite candidate is among the guys on those 8 non-bye teams who cannot or will not interview until after playoff elimination or the Super Bowl if they get there.

Further, there is the McDaniels cautionary tale. Agreement in principal is not a contract.
 
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Connecting dots of rumors, facts and speculation:

  • Belichick forced to trade Garoppolo by team owner
  • Brady wanted him gone went to owner behind HCs back
  • Belichick upset says to owner he wants out
  • Owner tells him he needs to honor contract and stay
  • McDaniel verbally takes HC job at indy
  • Kraft tells McD to hang around, belichick will be leaving and you are the heir
  • McD flips on his commitment
  • Belichick starts NYG rumor



Possible? Yes, but not very probable. Part that doesnt firlt is Kraft wouldn't be allowing McD to interview now if this was the case.
 
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I realize I don't represent everybody, but I'm an old timer. And I feel like as long as we have Rodgers, if the new head coach can't deliver us a Super Bowl win, then it's a failure, on some level at least.
How could it be otherwise? It is the object of the whole shebang.

It seems to me the younger among us are the more impatient, wanting to do what they think is necessary to just "get to the playoffs and see what happens" rather than take the steps to build toward a championship caliber roster. And if those steps are sound in approach but poor in execution, us old guys will be no less disappointed.

2014, by the way, was the bitterest pill.
 
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That's because you aren't Rodell330's uncle's barber's neighbor's cousin's best friend's nephew.
Do in-laws count? Tell me who to marry.

My qualifications [one should always have at least 3]:
1) I have the original hardcover 2 volume Vince Lombardi on Football.
2) I have managed to keep Madden 08 running on my PC through Windows 10.
3) The battery is dead on my wristwatch [one should never wear a watch to an interview].

Slightly more serious: I am imagining what would be the best approach to an NFL coach interview. Of course, the Packer job is the only one I want but, should I tell this to Gute or would it be better to play coy as if playing golf for the rest of my life is on a par with coaching in Green Bay?
 

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2014, by the way, was the bitterest pill.
Very bitter. That does perhaps leave the worst taste in the mouth.

I have the original hardcover 2 volume Vince Lombardi on Football.
I have that, found it in a yard sale.

2) I have managed to keep Madden 08 running on my PC through Windows 10.
It would be more impressive if it was Madden '97. I kept that one around for awhile since we were Super Bowl champs.
 
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I believe we cant sign a coach who's team is still playing, only interview.
That is correct. The competition committee considered a rule change this past offseason, call it the "Josh McDaniels Rule", whereby a guy could be signed to a contract as HC while he's still in the playoffs for another team. Interestingly, the Colts owner was one party that objected to the change.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-gm-was-opposed-to-tabled-josh-mcdaniels-rule

There is an obvious problem with this rule change I have not seen mentioned that should have been a non-starter from the get go. As with a lot of rule changes, the NFL can't see past their noses.

Consider a playoff team whose HC has announced his retirement effective at the end of that season. That team goes out and signs an assistant from another playoff team. Then the two teams meet. That's a blatant conflict of interest.
 

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Do in-laws count? Tell me who to marry.

My qualifications [one should always have at least 3]:
1) I have the original hardcover 2 volume Vince Lombardi on Football.
2) I have managed to keep Madden 08 running on my PC through Windows 10.
3) The battery is dead on my wristwatch [one should never wear a watch to an interview].

Slightly more serious: I am imagining what would be the best approach to an NFL coach interview. Of course, the Packer job is the only one I want but, should I tell this to Gute or would it be better to play coy as if playing golf for the rest of my life is on a par with coaching in Green Bay?

You're burying the lede!

4) You are an active member of the Packers forum!
 

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If JM agrees to be the coach and backs out, I'm ok with it. History has shown that teams JM has backed out of being the coach of have made the playoffs the following year.
 
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