Head Coach interviews thread

[rodell330]

For as little we know about draft pick evauations (it doesnt stop me!), we know much less about evaluating coaches. Although I have my own ideas, I am in a wait and see approach. McDaniel or Caldwell could very well be the exact fit the Packers need.

Exactly. I hate when people say he wasn’t any good in Denver. They did win a playoff game and his QB was Tim Tebow.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

For as little we know about draft pick evauations (it doesnt stop me!), we know much less about evaluating coaches. Although I have my own ideas, I am in a wait and see approach. McDaniel or Caldwell could very well be the exact fit the Packers need.

As he proved in Denver, he is nothing but a ******* rodeo clown of utter incompetence. I don't need that in Green Bay and will be the first to call for his firing if it happens. Waste of Rodgers's latter years.

 

[rodell330]

Hey Rodell what does your connection think about the rumors that McDaniels is interested in the Browns job?

People think it is McDaniels not interested in interviewing with the Browns but that is INCORRECT. The Browns are actually not interested in McDaniels. I bet you guys don’t even know that the agent that dropped McDaniels after he decided on not taking the Colts gig is the same agent of CURRENT Browns GM Dorsey and another Browns official. I’m positive that’s one of the reasons the Browns don’t want McDaniels. I think the agents name is Bob Lamonte or something like that.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Exactly. I hate when people say he wasn’t any good in Denver. They did win a playoff game and his QB was Tim Tebow.

Wrong!! John Fox did that, McDaniels was fired the year before

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ran across this picture and found it amusing Guess someone thought we already have our new HC on the team or at least our OC?

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[rodell330]

Wrong!! John Fox did that, McDaniels was fired the year before

You’re correct it was Fox. Got my years mixed up. I still don’t think we should just dawg the guy and not see what he can do with Rodgers.

 

[PackAttack12]

You’re correct it was Fox. Got my years mixed up. I still don’t think we should just dawg the guy and not see what he can do with Rodgers.

It's not about that, IMO. It's about making the best possible hire. Obviously if McDaniels is hired, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. I have no concerns about McDaniels' ability to scheme and run an effective offense. My concerns are about him being able to lead an entire football team.

 

[rodell330]

It's not about that, IMO. It's about making the best possible hire. Obviously if McDaniels is hired, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. I have no concerns about McDaniels' ability to scheme and run an effective offense. My concerns are about him being able to lead an entire football team.

Well if this eases your mind? Offensive minded coaches who are now Head coaches are having a lot of success in today’s NFL. McDaniels is considered a pretty good offensive coach.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

It's not about that, IMO. It's about making the best possible hire. Obviously if McDaniels is hired, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. I have no concerns about McDaniels' ability to scheme and run an effective offense. My concerns are about him being able to lead an entire football team.

His scheme is a fake too that's made to look good by Brady, Gronkowski and Edelman. The Pats offense never missed a beat without him at all, and outside of NE it's been a trainwreck. Not only in Denver but also dragging and hamboning the Rams offense in the mud.

Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien.

 

[PackAttack12]

Well if this eases your mind? Offensive minded coaches who are now Head coaches are having a lot of success in today’s NFL. McDaniels is considered a pretty good offensive coach.

Is he a leader of men? Does he hold players accountable? Can he get his message across to every player on the team besides the offensive side? Will he hire the right guys for his staff? Will he keep his nose clean and not cheat as he's been implicated in the past?

I could continue, but I think you get the point. It's not good enough to just be an offensive minded guy, with limited skills in other areas. Not saying that he doesn't have these things, but he's never had them on display in the NFL as the head man, and he's had an opportunity. What he did to the Colts is disturbing and alarming to me.

These are legitimate concerns.

 

[AmishMafia]

It's not about that, IMO. It's about making the best possible hire. Obviously if McDaniels is hired, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. I have no concerns about McDaniels' ability to scheme and run an effective offense. My concerns are about him being able to lead an entire football team.

Yes. I think a big part of coaching is just leadership and organizational skills and less about football knowledge than many realize.

Managing a crowd of generally very ego heavy opinionated football coaches is not easy. Keeping everyone motivated and on the same page is no easy task. Especially with the personality of your average football guy.

Those skills are generally not apparent on the sidelines.

[Put video here of DC Buddy Ryan punching OC on the sidelines]

I think what ended MMs career in GB has more to do with managing his relationship with AR than anything football knowledge related.

 

[PackAttack12]

Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien.

And even he's been bailed out by Watson's great play.

 

[rodell330]

Is he a leader of men? Does he hold players accountable? Can he get his message across to every player on the team besides the offensive side? Will he hire the right guys for his staff? Will he keep his nose clean and not cheat as he's been implicated in the past?

I could continue, but I think you get the point. It's not good enough to just be an offensive minded guy, with limited skills in other areas. Not saying that he doesn't have these things, but he's never had them on display in the NFL as the head man, and he's had an opportunity. What he did to the Colts is disturbing and alarming to me.

These are legitimate concerns.

I echo your concerns trust me. If he’s already got guys lined up willing to come to GB with him they must believe in him.

 

[GleefulGary]

And even he's been bailed out by Watson's great play.

So what you're saying is a good QB will make a coach look better?

What a shocker.

 

[rodell330]

So what you're saying is a good QB will make a coach look better?

What a shocker.

Haha!!

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

And even he's been bailed out by Watson's great play.

Somewhat, though he has had a couple winning seasons including one with the sub par Osweiler. I think the main thing with O'Brien is that he's really not a Bellichek disciple. He contributed to the Pats staff while there, but he had years of coaching that began way before he got to New England and after transitioning between NFL and college all those years had proven he could adapt to different team needs and cultures. Assistants like Weis, McDaniels, Patricia and Flores have been way too indoctrinated in the Bellichek way and have not shown they can do this without clinging onto the old man's motor boat.

 

[PackAttack12]

So what you're saying is a good QB will make a coach look better?

What a shocker.

By bailed out I mean to say that, without him, he likely would have lost his job this year.

 

[rmontro]

If that's the case he'd better be ready for an angry mob

McDaniels may not be the most popular choice for some (although from what I can see, others are in favor of him).
But I doubt very much the response to him being hired would be an angry mob (unless you're planning on putting one together lol).

It's also possible that his reported interest in the Cleveland job might be to give him some leverage. Having GB as the only job he's interested in wouldn't give him much leverage.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

By bailed out I mean to say that, without him, he likely would have lost his job this year.

Possibly, but teams like Washington and Houston sure do make some strange calls regarding coaches these days.

 

[Alex]

His scheme is a fake too that's made to look good by Brady, Gronkowski and Edelman. The Pats offense never missed a beat without him at all, and outside of NE it's been a trainwreck. Not only in Denver but also dragging and hamboning the Rams offense in the mud.

Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien.

What? He got 10 wins out of Matt Cassel, made Jimmy G look pretty good, and went 2-1 with Jacoby Brissett. If you ask me, Tom Brady looks good because of the offensive coordinators he's been given. I'm not a fan of Josh McDaniels but the guy is a great offensive mind.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

What? He got 10 wins out of Matt Cassel, made Jimmy G look pretty good, and went 2-1 with Jacoby Brissett. If you ask me, Tom Brady looks good because of the offensive coordinators he's been given. I'm not a fan of Josh McDaniels but the guy is a great offensive mind.

Again, when has he succeeded outside of New England where Bellichek has not run the show? Answer .... Never!!

 

[longtimefan]

@rodell330 why did Josh walk away from the colts?

 

[sschind]

His scheme is a fake too that's made to look good by Brady, Gronkowski and Edelman. The Pats offense never missed a beat without him at all, and outside of NE it's been a trainwreck. Not only in Denver but also dragging and hamboning the Rams offense in the mud.

Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien.

And if McDaniels succeeds, in Green Bay or elsewhere, you will amend your comment to "Bellichek's assistants are frauds outside of his team unless their name is Bill O'Brien or Josh McDaniels" and when the next guy succeeds you will change it again.

As they say, there is always a first time and if there is a first time there could just as easily be a second time (I added that last part)

Whenever I see such adamant opposition, or support for that matter, to anything some part of me always hopes for the opposite just to see the reaction.

All I can say is it is a good thing for Bill Belichick that he was so wildly successful in his first coaching stint or he never would have gotten another job.

 

[Heyjoe4]

It's not about that, IMO. It's about making the best possible hire. Obviously if McDaniels is hired, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. I have no concerns about McDaniels' ability to scheme and run an effective offense. My concerns are about him being able to lead an entire football team.

That was the problem with MM. He wasn’t a HC, he was a glorified OC/playcaller. We need a HC who can take stock of the whole team. Leave play calls to the coordinators. Part of the HC’s job is to hold the coordinators accountable. That explains why Capers was kept so long, and why Slocum and Zook have been the “best” choices for STs. I’ll keep an open mind on McDaniels as well. I just think they need a different kind of guy to be a HC.

 

[AmishMafia]

Again, when has he succeeded outside of New England where Bellichek has not run the show? Answer .... Never!!

Yup. And when has Belichick ever succeeded as a HC outside of Cleveland? Oh wait. After failing and getting fired in Cleveland, had had some success in his 2nd HC job in NE.

Wow. Maybe if you fail at one job doesnt mean you suck.