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I’m not impressed. What kind of player ****** away 21M guaranteed? What a complete idiot

My understanding is he’ll make the same amount this year, be a free agent at the end, and he’s on a Super Bowl contender(some would say favorite) vs a glorified expansion team in Oakland. I think he’s confident in his ability to (more than) make up the garaunteed money he’s putting at risk next year. Pittsburgh gets a couple draft picks but... they may be facing Brown in the playoffs with Tom Eff’in Brady throwing to him. The longer I look at this AB has the total ability to come out of this smelling like a rose
 

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Sure, but it still required knowing beforehand that Mayock was gonna be a moron more interested in proving his power over actually working with a historically great WR like Brown.

I still think Mayock handled this about as poorly as possible and was trying to prove his power over AB rather than just working with his best player behind the scenes. How much you think the Cowboys fined Zeke for missing camp? It's very unusual for teams to actually fine great players and then not forgive those fines when they report; and, outside of not showing to training camp, what football stuff did he really screw up? He hurt his feet and made a fuss over his helmet so he could probably sign a marketing deal with a new helmet company. Yeah, he's probably ecstatic to be with a great team, but Belichick has shown time and again that he's willing to deal with character issue, diva players if those players are worth it (Revis, Moss, Gronk, and now Brown). If the best coach/GM in NFL history is willing to work with those guys, it should tell you that those guys are worth it.

Yep. Totally on Mayock for not letting a player threaten to punch him in the face and call him a *******. Just trying to flex his power. Should just let the star player do whatever he wants. I mean it's not like AB was a ****** in Pittsburgh too. This is 100 percent on Mayock........

I mean did you read what you typed before posting it?

AB threw a temper tantrum over a helmet because he didnt want to go through TC.... Mayock stood by AB

AB ILLEGALLY records his HC and puts on youtube.... Mayock stands by him

AB throws another temper tantrum during practice threatening to punch Mayock in the face and calls him a racial slur....Somehow you think it's a power play to move on from the guy who just did that to his boss

(kudos on not mentioning the problem child misses BB has had while somehow including Gronk and Revis)
 
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LOL....love reading comments about how all of this somehow makes AB look smart. Are you kidding me? How does anything AB has done make him look smart? Guessing some of you would still have loved it had the Packers made the trade with the Steelers for AB or signed him today?

The Raiders were lucky to get out from underneath his $50M contract with $30M of it guaranteed. Belichick decided a $9M roll of the dice could be worth getting one of the most talented WR's in the league, a guy who may have just been close to his last strike and has no choice but to fall into line in NE.

For those thinking this didn't cost AB much, look at the deal he had with the Raiders and the one he signed with the Patriots. There is a big difference, about $21M that the Patriots weren't willing to invest in a ticking time bomb. His new contract is worth "up to $15M", it will be interesting to see what he has to do to earn it.
 
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My understanding is he’ll make the same amount this year, be a free agent at the end, and he’s on a Super Bowl contender(some would say favorite) vs a glorified expansion team in Oakland. I think he’s confident in his ability to (more than) make up the garaunteed money he’s putting at risk next year. Pittsburgh gets a couple draft picks but... they may be facing Brown in the playoffs with Tom Eff’in Brady throwing to him. The longer I look at this AB has the total ability to come out of this smelling like a rose
AK, his guaranteed is 1/3 of the original 29M.

There’s a time tested old saying... “what smell do you get when you put a POS next to a Rose??”
It don’t smell like Rose my friend, you don’t need to answer that, it’s a rhetorically sound question! Lol
 

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Yep. Totally on Mayock for not letting a player threaten to punch him in the face and call him a *******. Just trying to flex his power. Should just let the star player do whatever he wants. I mean it's not like AB was a ****** in Pittsburgh too. This is 100 percent on Mayock........

I mean did you read what you typed before posting it?

AB threw a temper tantrum over a helmet because he didnt want to go through TC.... Mayock stood by AB

AB ILLEGALLY records his HC and puts on youtube.... Mayock stands by him

AB throws another temper tantrum during practice threatening to punch Mayock in the face and calls him a racial slur....Somehow you think it's a power play to move on from the guy who just did that to his boss

(kudos on not mentioning the problem child misses BB has had while somehow including Gronk and Revis)

The threats came after the fines. I'm not defending the shouting match, in saying it never would have gotten that far off Mayock hadn't pushed it there.

Not to worry though, that idiot Belichick fell for it too. He should have realized all your salient points before signing him and certainly ruining the Patriots season.


Fans seem to think NFL players should be treated like employees at the same job the fans have and that's simply not the way it works. In sports, if you're good, the players have the power and the best teams are the ones that realize that and work with it.
 
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Fans seem to think NFL players should be treated like employees at the same job the fans have and that's simply not the way it works. In sports, if you're good, the players have the power and the best teams are the ones that realize that and work with it.
I’ll only say this. We can speculate all we want but one thing is an undisputed fact. AB just walked away from 29,000,000 guaranteed for 9,000,000 because of 1 thing.. Pride. His pride got in the way of him discerning when to keep his mouth shut. That tells me 100% he lacks the ability to control himself and lacks discernment and the ability to accept discipline. He also just walked away from his teammates and his promise to deliver (that’s what a contract is). Even IF he ends up making more $...he’s 100% lost his credibility and he’s now lifted his proverbial middle finger at not 1, but 2 franchises Coast to Coast.

We may never know the full extent of how his latest actions affected his career. But it is my belief that he is on a sharp career decent. I have no axe to grind with the kid, I want the best for him, we all make stupid mistakes and have to grow up, but he’s spiraling and I wouldn’t want to be there when he crashes.
 

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The threats came after the fines. I'm not defending the shouting match, in saying it never would have gotten that far off Mayock hadn't pushed it there.

Not to worry though, that idiot Belichick fell for it too. He should have realized all your salient points before signing him and certainly ruining the Patriots season.


Fans seem to think NFL players should be treated like employees at the same job the fans have and that's simply not the way it works. In sports, if you're good, the players have the power and the best teams are the ones that realize that and work with it.

Lol... yeah, that's how I'd character the New England Patriots for sure: the franchise where the players have the power.
 

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I’m pretty fortunate to have more money than I know what to do with. I can tell you the difference between $15M and $21M or whatever.... is not that big a deal. That’s me looking at it at 60+ so at 20-something... pffffffffft! That said, I think AB honestly believes he’ll recoup that amount and more.... and he’s on the Patriots with TFB throwing to him vs the sheet show he left in Oakland. End of the day, if he’s taking care of his money at all he’ll be fine. I think the young man wants to ball, money’s not a huge issue.
 

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Revis, Moss, Gronk, Brady's "doctor"...Belichick leaves good players alone.

Are you still trying to put Revis and Gronk into the same category as AB?

Also you should probably stop trying to only naming the players that fit your narrative (even though 2 of the players you keep listing dont actually do even that. Also they all towed the company line and when they didnt cough cough Moss they were gone so saying he leaves good players alone is just dumb).

There's been some, we'll just say, pretty significant misses on players with character issues going to NE that you seem to be conveniently forgetting

That's not to say BB wont control the ship (if AB acts up he'll get cut or benched asap) but the narrative that BB has some magical touch for keeping problem players in line just isnt what the average fan would have you believe
 
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I'd also like to give a big shoutout to Steeler's GM Kevin Colbert, he just finessed Mike Mayock. He got a 3rd (Diontae Johnson) and a 5th Round pick(Zach Gentry) just for AB to play for somebody else. Genius.
The Steelers took a $21 mil dead cap hit in the trade to Oakland. It was less a matter of finesse than making the best of a bad situation.
 
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I think you are giving this idiot far more credit then he deserves. Sure, he might get a chance to play for a team of his choice, but that choice is going to be very limited and no way will the money be equal to what he just left on the table in Oakland.

This wasn't a calculated move on his part, it was just him being Antonio Brown.
It was calculated the way the (other) trade negotiations have been calculated; one thing one day, something else the next.

If it were true he never wanted to play in Oakland he would not have agreed to the Oakland contract extension upon which the trade was contingent. It would seem his brain is like that kid playing with a light switch, on-off-on-off.
 

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this whole situation reeks of collusion...it took exactly 4 hours for NE to sign him...to me, AB should be investigated by the NFL and suspended until dirty pool is ruled out. This has all the makings of another example of what everyone has been saying about cheating and the New England Patriots. Goodell needs to pull his head out of his ars and suspend AB.
 

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this whole situation reeks of collusion...it took exactly 4 hours for NE to sign him...to me, AB should be investigated by the NFL and suspended until dirty pool is ruled out. This has all the makings of another example of what everyone has been saying about cheating and the New England Patriots. Goodell needs to pull his head out of his ars and suspend AB.
While I agree this reeks of tampering, New England are the masters of finding loopholes and whatnot. I don't expect punishment for them unfortunately.
 

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this whole situation reeks of collusion...it took exactly 4 hours for NE to sign him...to me, AB should be investigated by the NFL and suspended until dirty pool is ruled out. This has all the makings of another example of what everyone has been saying about cheating and the New England Patriots. Goodell needs to pull his head out of his ars and suspend AB.

Come on, can we please not make this about the Patriots and some conspiracy? Plain and simple, the Pats were a team willing to sign AB and a team AB wanted to play for, simple as that.
 

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I think you are giving this idiot far more credit then he deserves. Sure, he might get a chance to play for a team of his choice, but that choice is going to be very limited and no way will the money be equal to what he just left on the table in Oakland.

This wasn't a calculated move on his part, it was just him being Antonio Brown.

Whatcha think now? :roflmao:

Still stand by what I said. ;) Whatcha think?
 

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Come on, can we please not make this about the Patriots and some conspiracy? Plain and simple, the Pats were a team willing to sign AB and a team AB wanted to play for, simple as that.
For the record, I am not opposed to AB signing with NE, but the timing and speed of the whole thing bothers me.
 

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Come on, can we please not make this about the Patriots and some conspiracy? Plain and simple, the Pats were a team willing to sign AB and a team AB wanted to play for, simple as that.
Dude it's New England. They are the masters at doing stuff like this. You know they'll try find any loopholes in order to get away with stuff. More power to them, but as Lambeaulambo mentioned, the timing can't be pure coincidental.
 

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Revis, Moss, Gronk, Brady's "doctor"...Belichick leaves good players alone.

This is a ******** narrative.

Yes, if you're more talented you have a longer leash. That's true of every team. But that leash is held by BB. To describe his team as a player led outfit is about as ignorant of reality as it gets.
 

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Dude it's New England. They are the masters at doing stuff like this. You know they'll try find any loopholes in order to get away with stuff. More power to them, but as Lambeaulambo mentioned, the timing can't be pure coincidental.

Masters of doing just what? Signing a free agent? AB isn't the first high profile troubled Free Agent that BB has rolled the dice on. Had Cleveland signed AB, people would be labeling this "Browns are idiots, they will sign anyone".

I know its fun to attest everything that the Patriots do to "cheating", but I think calling this anything close to that is a big stretch.

For the record, I am not opposed to AB signing with NE, but the timing and speed of the whole thing bothers me.

Timing and speed? The Season started on Thursday, should they have waiting until a few weeks go by and AB gets an offer that he can't refuse from another team? If anything, people should be impressed by BB's ability to swoop in and be decisive about this. I also don't think BB or other GM's woke up yesterday and said "hmmmm AB might be released today, what should I do?" AB has been fully on the radar for a long time, first with the Steelers and then when all this shenanigans with the Raiders started. A good GM is always playing out "what if scenarios" in his head.

I am guessing AB hit Gute and the Packers Radar off and on during the course of the last 7 or so months, but I really hope they were rock solid on their desire not to ever blink.
 
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Masters of doing just what? Signing a free agent? AB isn't the first high profile troubled Free Agent that BB has rolled the dice on. Had Cleveland signed AB, people would be labeling this "Browns are idiots, they will sign anyone".

I know its fun to attest everything that the Patriots do to "cheating", but I think calling this anything close to that is a big stretch.
I didn't accuse them of cheating, I just said that New England are the masters of finding loopholes in order to go around things. They are very crafty, and there is nothing wrong with that. (Hell the owner's last name is Kraft. XD) Their history indicates that. I'm not mad, props to them. In the NFL you have to do things in order to edge out your opponents. Don't mix me into the group of people that call New England the "Cheatriots." I respect them as a team and as an organization.
 
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I didn't accuse them of cheating, I just said that New England are the masters of finding loopholes in order to go around things. Their history indicates that. That's not an opinion. I'm not mad, props to them. In the NFL you have to do things in order to edge out your opponents. Don't mix me into the group of people that call New England the "Cheatriots." I respect them as a team and as an organization.

Right, but when you say things like "masters of finding loopholes in order to go around things", isn't that implying that they aren't playing by the same rules as everyone else?

What was the loophole they used to sign AB ?
 

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Right, but when you say things like "masters of finding loopholes in order to go around things", isn't that implying that they aren't playing by the same rules as everyone else?

What was the loophole they used to sign AB ?
No not really, they are playing by the rules, they just do their research. That just shows how well prepared they are. Any other team can do the same, but it just so happens that New England are the only ones that manages to.

And again perhaps there wasn't any loopholes, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did especially considering how soon they picked up AB. That doesn't seem like a coincidence.
 
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