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[Pokerbrat2000]

I predicted he'd be gone at the end of the season anyway because he's already hit the ceiling. Problem is now, we're very thin at this position because Gute seems to be very unwilling to invest any significant draft or trade capital in it. Seems to be treating it the same way Thompson was with the DBs when he figured he could rely on guys like House and Gunter and get away with it.

While I agree with you, I am going to take a "positive" take on the Kumerow release. I assumed Kumerow was probably going to make the roster based on his experience, not his talent. I say that because it would be hard for anyone to argue that beside Adams, there is very much proven talent in that WR room. So given that the Packers were willing to part ways with a below average, but experienced guy like JK, it leads me to believe that a younger guy has impressed the coaches and moved past him. Which guy? Could be Turner or ESB or both?

EDIT: Malik Turner also released, so it looks like it will be:

1. Adams
2. Lazard
3. MVS
   
4. ESB
5. Tyler Ervin
   
6. Malik Taylor???

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How things can change in a year.....this was the scene exactly one year ago today as the Packers and Bears opened up the 2019 season on Thursday night. Packers won 10-3.

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[GreenNGold_81]

While I agree with you, I am going to take a "positive" take on the Kumerow release. I assumed Kumerow was probably going to make the roster based on his experience, not his talent. I say that because it would be hard for anyone to argue that beside Adams, there is very much proven talent in that WR room. So given that the Packers were willing to part ways with a below average, but experienced guy like JK, it leads me to believe that a younger guy has impressed the coaches and moved past him. Which guy? Could be Turner or ESB or both?

Or make way for Taylor Gabriel or maybe they have the inside scoop on someone being cut today from another team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Or make way for Taylor Gabriel or maybe they have the inside scoop on someone being cut today from another team.

Could be, but honestly, I have been waiting for far too long (over 18 months) for great news on an upgrade to the WR group, so I am not going to get my hopes up again.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

While I agree with you, I am going to take a "positive" take on the Kumerow release. I assumed Kumerow was probably going to make the roster based on his experience, not his talent. I say that because it would be hard for anyone to argue that beside Adams, there is very much proven talent in that WR room. So given that the Packers were willing to part ways with a below average, but experienced guy like JK, it leads me to believe that a younger guy has impressed the coaches and moved past him. Which guy? Could be Turner or ESB or both?

Well, ESB I believe was already slated to be on it, or at least once Funchess decided not to play this year. Beyond this current four, you might have a guy the coaches like, but what do we all realistically expect out of him? I guess for me I'm just getting annoyed with this attempting to fill gaps in our WR group with aftermarket low draft round or udfa guys, or shopping around for Reggie Bagletons who don't make it. Gute has just not proven he has a plan for this, and hence I'm going to hold his feet to the fire until he does.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe I am missing someone, but after Malik Turner was released, doesn't that leave the Packers with only the following 5 WR's?


Adams, Lazard, MVS, ESB, Malik Taylor......unless you count Kabian Ento as #6?

Edit: Forgot about Return man Tyler Ervin, I guess he could be considered the #5 or #6.


The Packers are keeping former Ferris State WR and 2019 UDFA Malik Taylor on their initial 53-man roster, per source.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Paul Richardson cut....

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Paul Richardson cut....

Tells you just how stacked the Seahawks are at WR. I always like Richardson, but the Packers won't sign him, they have Malik Taylor!

 

[HardRightEdge]

RELEASED OR OTHER ACTION​

• Shepherd released - WR
• Begelton - WR
• Dexter Williams - RB
• Tim Williams - OLB
• Evan Bayles - TE
• John Leglue - OL
• Cody Conway - OL
  
• Tipa Galea - OLB
• DaShaun Amos - CB
• Stanford Samuels III - CB
  
• Zach Johnson - OL
• Krys Barnes - ILB
• John Lovett - FB
  
• Delontae Scott - DL
• Damarea Crockett - RB
  
• Malik Turner - WR
  
• Willington Previlion - DT
  
• Greg Roberts - OLB
  
• Alex Light - OT
  
• Curtis Bolton- ILB to PUP

The biggest surprise might be a name not on the list: Malik Taylor as the 5th. WR.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The biggest surprise might be a name not on the list: Malik Taylor as the 5th. WR.

I didn't expect him to make the 53 either. Another sign as to just how thin this WR group is. He did have the distinct advantage over a few of the guys like Begelton and Turner, of being on the PS last year and becoming very familiar with the offense. Until injuries hit, I see him being one of the game day inactives.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Here's a more current list with a couple more names still to go:

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/roster-cuts-tracker-2020-green-bay-packers-532

This is an ongoing updates piece--I guess those couple more names will show up sooner or later.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Until injuries hit, I see [Taylor] being one of the game day inactives.

Probably. It depends on if he has any particular special teams ability. In his case it would need to be as a gunner I suppose. Two WR injuries in a game would probably have Ervin slide in on 3-wide sets or a TE out of the slot.

 

[McKnowledge]

I think the release of Kumerow signals that the coaching staff feels there has been considerable improvement from the entire receiving corp. I do agree it would be nice to have a shifty smaller receiver in the mix, but then I think that's what Aaron Jones is here for. Utilize his skill set as a pass catcher. If MVS and EQ make the leap along with the greatness of Adams, and the power running game hits with Dillon and Williams, then the offense will flow better in Year 2 under the LaFleur system. Big question is which TE will emerge?

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Probably. It depends on if he has any particular special teams ability. In his case it would need to be as a gunner I suppose. Two WR injuries in a game would probably have Ervin slide in on 3-wide sets or a TE out of the slot.

Two WR injuries in a game and this will be Rodgers...

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Tyler Ervin last year turned out to be a good pickup. I doubt he turns into a real head turner, but he appears to be a solid return guy that can play multiple positions when injuries stack up during a game. He could also turn into a nice chess piece on offense, lining up at both RB and WR and giving the Defense someone they need to give legit attention to.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Probably. It depends on if he has any particular special teams ability. In his case it would need to be as a gunner I suppose. Two WR injuries in a game would probably have Ervin slide in on 3-wide sets or a TE out of the slot.

That's what I'm thinking too. With how deep our backfield is and the unlikelihood of Ervin getting any carries there, he'd be the most likely to be the reverse Ty Montgomery guy.

Is still frustrating though that this is a raddy plan by Gute who had a whole big plethora of WRs to choose from in this draft and didn't grab even one of them.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Probably. It depends on if he has any particular special teams ability. In his case it would need to be as a gunner I suppose. Two WR injuries in a game wif ould probably have Ervin slide in on 3-wide sets or a TE out of the slot.

I didn't find Taylor's college return stats though there was a note on the Ferris State web site saying he was "one the squad's top return men" in 2017 before he missed nearly all of 2018 with a hamstring. Somebody has to the backup return guy on the game day roster. I have no idea if he could be that guy; returning kicks at Ferris State is not exactly a resounding qualifier. If he could combo gunner with backup retuner he'd get some game day play.

I have no idea if he's qualifed for any of that.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Tyler Ervin last year turned out to be a good pickup. I doubt he turns into a real head turner, but he appears to be a solid return guy that can play multiple positions when injuries stack up during a game. He could also turn into a nice chess piece on offense, lining up at both RB and WR and giving the Defense someone they need to give legit attention to.

He's definitely the kind of guy that's nice to have on the game day roster for deep bench at a couple of positions if two in-game injuries strike in one position group. Tramon Williams was such a guy last year--primarily slot but could swing to safety or wide in a pinch.

Of course Williams had the best game of career taking 80+ snaps, so maybe not there.

Is still frustrating though that this is a raddy plan by Gute who had a whole big plethora of WRs to choose from in this draft and didn't grab even one of them.

Water under the bridge, bridge under the water, spilt milk sobbing--time to move on.

 

[Dblbogey]

To me that signals they'll only keep 5 wr on roster. Adams, Lazard, MVS, EQ, and ? A guy cut from another team maybe

Looking at those names makes me a bit nervous, depending on a 3rd year jump from MVS, have no idea what we have in EQ. I'd like to add Donald Driver in his prime to this roster.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I think the release of Kumerow signals that the coaching staff feels there has been considerable improvement from the entire receiving corp. I do agree it would be nice to have a shifty smaller receiver in the mix, but then I think that's what Aaron Jones is here for. Utilize his skill set as a pass catcher. If MVS and EQ make the leap along with the greatness of Adams, and the power running game hits with Dillon and Williams, then the offense will flow better in Year 2 under the LaFleur system. Big question is which TE will emerge?

LaFleur or Gute (most likely Gute) obviously thinks the group of 3 behind Adams is ready, but big gamble I'd say with not much evidence to support it. I think the problem is as @captainWIMM pointed out in another thread, MVS regressed over the course of last year and hasn't caught on to route running. ESB ... might be better at that, I don't know. He's kinda hit and miss. Lazard is the one guy I think maybe emerges, or at least will stick around for a bit if nothing else because he can make some tough catches.

Yes, I think Aaron Jones will and should have a significant role as a pass catching RB. Maybe even a little more than last year. I don't expect it to bump this offense into a major force this year though.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

LaFleur or Gute (most likely Gute) obviously thinks the group of 3 behind Adams is ready, but big gamble I'd say with not much evidence to support it. I think the problem is as @captainWIMM pointed out in another thread, MVS regressed over the course of last year and hasn't caught on to route running. ESB ... might be better at that, I don't know. He's kinda hit and miss. Lazard is the one guy I think maybe emerges, or at least will stick around for a bit if nothing else because he can make some tough catches.

Yes, I think Aaron Jones will and should have a significant role as a pass catching RB. Maybe even a little more than last year. I don't expect it to bump this offense into a major force this year though.

Ya, but 3 years for a WR to mature into their NFL capabilities isn't beyond the norm. MVS has had a great camp per several reports, there is a chance that he's the WR2 to start the season.

 

[GleefulGary]

A bit surprised Jake Hanson got cut. Imagine he'll get brought back to the PS.

 

[lambeaulambo]

I am going to say this - MVS shouldnt be here. Pick up Sanu and Richardson. MVS would not make another roster I dont think. I dont care about camp - I have zero confidence in MVS. If they keep him I have a gut feeling they may regret it.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Note: Niether Linsley nor Taylor were cut for cap savings.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I assumed Kumerow was probably going to make the roster based on his experience, not his talent.

Yeah, Kumerow had topped out. He is all he's going to be at 28 years old. He'd probably be more productive than Taylor right now if one or the other were pressed into service; instead they went with the younger guy with more perceived upside. That's hardly unusual for the bottom of the roster.