Brayden Narveson

[OldSchool101]

Former Packer kicking option, Greg Joseph, was signed to the NYGiants 53 from the Lion's PS last week. Missed (badly) his only attempt from 48 yds with 3 minutes left, which didn't change the outcome (Giants still won). Appears Gute made the right decision getting Narveson, but he needs a couple of 100% accurate games to remove the naysayer pressure.

I agree. This would be a good time for Narveson to redeem himself.
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[Poppa San]

3/3 5/5 XPM

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[JPPT1974]

He is new just really hope he can live and learn. As really think that hopefully he will be a long term kicking solution.

 

[tynimiller]

The crazy thing is he has been called upon to do FGs twice as much than nearly half the kickers in the league.

His 11 attempts is tied with Boswell for the most in the league through three weeks.
Only 19 kickers have kicked at least 6 or more kicks.

Of those with 8 kicks or more....% numbers for them are:
Boswell - 90.9%
Narveson - 81.8%
Aubrey - 100%
Lutz - 100%
Moody - 88.9%
Seibert - 100%
McPherson - 87.5%
Fairbarn - 87.5%
Tucker - 62.5%


Everyone, including Narveson, know there is better in his foot - but truthfully speaking does no one remember Crosby had 7 seasons in GB and 8 in his career with a percentage UNDER 80%....

I mean guys like Butker who is considered one of the better kickers...has only had 3 seasons over 90% out of his seven seasons.
McPherson - has had zero seasons over 85%
Tucker - considered by many to be the premiere kicker...has had 6 seasons out of his 12 completed years where he didn't break 90%

He's also one of the 14 left standing that have a perfect XP %

Narveson is striking the ball excellently and I have a lot of hope about his future.

 

[gopkrs]

Looks like Greg Joseph has a job for now. 5 for 5. I'm happy to have Narveson until he proves me wrong.

 

[OldSchool101]

Everyone, including Narveson, know there is better in his foot - but truthfully speaking does no one remember Crosby had 7 seasons in GB and 8 in his career with a percentage UNDER 80%....

Very good point.

I just looked up and did the math and broke up Crosby’s first 8 seasons

79.1% FGM

The back 9 (seasons) of his career?

83.9%

I’ll let you each deduce what you want from that. For me it speaks to pretty substantial evidence that a PlaceKicker can get better over time.
The 81.8% number Narveson has? ironically splits the uprights of Crosby’s career 81.3% average. He’s very young and I believe with time can achieve that 85% area, which is a solid NFL Kicker. IMO the number to worry about in a Rookie season hovers around 75%, whereas 80% gets more vicinity of normal, 85% vicinity is really good and 90% is elite.

Justin Tucker is the model for Success and his career is 89.7%

 

[OldSchool101]

For myself. Narveson is a keeper if he hovers around 80-85% in his Rookie season, which is where he’s floating. I’m probably not totally giving up at 79.5% etc. unless he’s missing XPA or some other glaring hole there.

Something just tells me he’s going to hit a longer one coming up here. Like a 57 yarder. That would redeem a miss or two.

 

[milani]

The crazy thing is he has been called upon to do FGs twice as much than nearly half the kickers in the league.

His 11 attempts is tied with Boswell for the most in the league through three weeks.
Only 19 kickers have kicked at least 6 or more kicks.

Of those with 8 kicks or more....% numbers for them are:
Boswell - 90.9%
Narveson - 81.8%
Aubrey - 100%
Lutz - 100%
Moody - 88.9%
Seibert - 100%
McPherson - 87.5%
Fairbarn - 87.5%
Tucker - 62.5%


Everyone, including Narveson, know there is better in his foot - but truthfully speaking does no one remember Crosby had 7 seasons in GB and 8 in his career with a percentage UNDER 80%....

I mean guys like Butker who is considered one of the better kickers...has only had 3 seasons over 90% out of his seven seasons.
McPherson - has had zero seasons over 85%
Tucker - considered by many to be the premiere kicker...has had 6 seasons out of his 12 completed years where he didn't break 90%

He's also one of the 14 left standing that have a perfect XP %

Narveson is striking the ball excellently and I have a lot of hope about his future.

And Aubrey missed one finally last night. That after kicking a 60 yarder.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Kickers are very important. They don’t affect every play and sometimes they don’t even affect a game in any significant way.
Then again….when your season comes down to a 42 yard FG……you don’t want your guy to double doink it…….trust me…..it really sucks.

 

[Magooch]

Time to start shopping for a kicker again. Knew better than to trust this guy this early on.

 

[milani]

Time to start shopping for a kicker again. Knew better than to trust this guy this early on.

1st on the agenda. BUT....3 weeks late. Joseph is a Giant now. Gute gambled and he struck out. Had this been a close game it would have been devastating. Last year we were in rebuild mode and you try to grow a young kicker. This year expectations are much higher. You need some experience. In 2007 Crosby was a rookie and that Packer team was still in a rebuild mode. Expectations for that season were low and they exceeded them.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

I'm done with this clown. Time to start giving him the Nascar chant every day he's still on the roster

 

[thequick12]

Cost the Packers the game...1 of 2 wins it

 

[XPack]

1st on the agenda. BUT....3 weeks late.

2 years late.

 

[milani]

I'm done with this clown. Time to start giving him the Nascar chant every day he's still on the roster

What is Crosby doing these days? He would at least hit from 37.

 

[thequick12]

Id take Carlson back at least he has the leg to get the ball there from 50 +

 

[milani]

Cost the Packers the game...1 of 2 wins it

Even if we do not win it certainly gives the team a chance. And when you miss 2 in a game when every point is crucial it demoralized the effort of the offense. I am sure if we had those points the Vikings get more aggressive in the second half. But that is what you want. And the lowly losing Patriots kicker hits from 63!

 

[Heyjoe4]

1st on the agenda. BUT....3 weeks late. Joseph is a Giant now. Gute gambled and he struck out. Had this been a close game it would have been devastating. Last year we were in rebuild mode and you try to grow a young kicker. This year expectations are much higher. You need some experience. In 2007 Crosby was a rookie and that Packer team was still in a rebuild mode. Expectations for that season were low and they exceeded them.

"Had this been a close game...." Maybe I'm reading this wrong milani. If Narvesson hits that 37 yarder it's a win, probably. 31-29 sounds pretty close to me. Granted, the first half was NOT close.

 

[Magooch]

Which QB-needy team has the best kicker that we can exchange Willis for?

(Being sarcastic, but seriously we need a solution)

 

[Sanguine camper]

Special teams are still a mess. If I'm Gute, I really have to start wondering if my entire tenure will go down as a special teams debacle.

 

[pacmaniac]

Austin Siebert is now 10-10 on FGs and 9-9 on XPs this season. He was cut in the preseason and was still available until Week 2! We signed the wrong guy.

 

[milani]

"Had this been a close game...." Maybe I'm reading this wrong milani. If Narvesson hits that 37 yarder it's a win, probably. 31-29 sounds pretty close to me. Granted, the first half was NOT close.

At the time we were commenting on the place kicking with that post I believe we were down 28-7. And our one score came after a muffed punt put us at the 2. So you had to believe the game should have been all but over. Even the CBS halftime show was telling us to put Malik in and give the team a lift.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Austin Siebert is now 10-10 on FGs and 9-9 on XPs this season. He was cut in the preseason and was still available until Week 2! We signed the wrong guy.

Like I posted above, I'm serious when I say his inability to manage special teams is ruining his tenure as GM. Right now, it looks like he can't fix it.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Which QB-needy team has the best kicker that we can exchange Willis for?

(Being sarcastic, but seriously we need a solution)

It's not a bad idea at all. But Willis hasn't done enough yet to warrant a deal for what he is probably worth. Even though I know you're kidding a bit.

Back to your final point, the kicker dilemma has to be fixed. That cost the team a game yesterday, and it's not too much to ask a pro kicker to hit from inside the 50 most of the time, especially from inside the 40.

All that said I don't know the answer. But finding a street agent or an UDFA on a PS somewhere is one approach. I'll let Gluten figure this out.

 

[Heyjoe4]

At the time we were commenting on the place kicking with that post I believe we were down 28-7. And our one score came after a muffed punt put us at the 2. So you had to believe the game should have been all but over. Even the CBS halftime show was telling us to put Malik in and give the team a lift.

I get your point milani, and thanks for the added info. I was thinking myself that they should just put Willis in to start the second half rather than risk injury to Love in a game going way, way south.

In hindsight I was wrong, no surprise there. Bottom line, 5 turnovers and 2 missed FGs from inside the 40 made it too easy for the Vikings. They were certainly the better team yesterday, much as I hate to say it. And Love threw some truly bad passes on at least two of those INTs, either forcing it into double coverage or that Hail Mary head scratcher (although Wicks should have played the ball rather than the defender).

The team will right itself, I'm not worried. I am worried about K. Something has to be done because it truly cannot get worse. Well, not much worse.......