Bad news for the Vikings

[Poppa San]

I am wholly unconcerned. Meant #12.

psst I knew that.

 

[Raptorman]

Johnson was a 7th round pick of the Packers that the team cut. He spent time on the Cleveland practice squad then had a couple nice games for the vikings two years ago before being non existent last year and by that I mean much more non existent than adams

He was non existent because he was injured and then Diggs came in and took his spot for most of the games left. Show's me just how much you know about the Vikings WR's.

 

[Raptorman]

Nelson is vastly superior to any Vikings wr. You have no idea if he lost a step you are just assuming that bc he is a Packer. Has ap lost a step? Then you Cobb who is better than any Viking wr especially when he actually can play like he was just one season ago. Jordy made everyone better bc they fit their role. After that Diggs would likely be the 3rd best wr for the Packers. Adams has been more impressive thatn Johnson. I have no idea what to think of Wright as it sounds like he might be moving down the depth chart

And to answer you previous question I do watch a ton of Viking games bc i live in Minnesota. I was left very underwhelmed by the whole passing game the second half of the season. I was impressed by their defense if that makes you feel better

I didn't meant to say that Nelson had lost a step, I meant to say that he might have. We don't know, because we haven't seen him play. A lot of players with ACL injuries don't come back at 100%. And the fact is that they have to learn to "trust" their knee once again. Peterson said it took him about half the season before he felt totally comfortable on it. Jordy's 31 and we all know that players start to slow down after 30. Will he? I don't know...and neither does anyone here. Based on past performance, Nelson is superior than anyone currently on the Vikings at this time. That may change by the end of the year.

 

[Vrill]

Far superior? No. I see nothing that special from the current Packer WR'c corps. Nelson will be back, and he will have lost a step. Cobb is good, but after that, they really have no one to write home about. I am not saying the Vikings WR's are better, just that the Packers WR's aren't as far ahead as you think they are.

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that Jordy will have lost a step without seeing him in extended action first? By all reports, he is the same ole Jordy in practice.

Jordy is a elite WR.

Vikings WR core is average.

 

[Poppa San]

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that Jordy will have lost a step without seeing him in extended action first?

Actually, until about mid season, any opinion on Jordy's knee and speed and any other after-effect is speculation. I didn't take him in FF for that reason.

 

[Raptorman]

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that Jordy will have lost a step without seeing him in extended action first? By all reports, he is the same ole Jordy in practice.

Jordy is a elite WR.

Vikings WR core is average.

Not any more than assuming he will be his old self.

The Northwestern research is sobering for pro athletes hoping for AP-like returns from ACL injuries, but on the bright side it showed that 80 percent return to play. Most get to 80 percent of their pre-injury performance levels, Mai said. “You won’t get back to full strength, but you’ll get close.”

http://www.startribune.com/athletes-recover-from-acl-injuries-eventually/391891671/

 

[bigbubbatd]

He was non existent because he was injured and then Diggs came in and took his spot for most of the games left. Show's me just how much you know about the Vikings WR's.

Diggs was inactive the first 3 games and Johnson played and did absolutely nothing. Although by your stands I guess 6 catches for 50 or so yards over 3 games is impressive. Then after that there was an injury and than very little production because he lost his job and then maybe an injury again. That is a bad year. Unproductive when healthy and hurt a lot. Adams was hurt a lot and unproductive but more productive. You like to make excuses for Viking wrs.

Pff has the Packers at 8th for receiving Corp rankings and the vikings at 24. Guess Packer fans aren't the only ones who don't think it is close. Maybe they don't watch the games either. I am not going to debate how much I watch the Vikings bc you have no idea but I will say I watched more than half

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-receiving-corps/

 

[Vrill]

Not any more than assuming he will be his old self.



http://www.startribune.com/athletes-recover-from-acl-injuries-eventually/391891671/

I'm just going by what defenders and coaches have said about him in practice. Some players do return to 100%.

 

[JBlood]

Bad news for the Vikings is nothing new going back to 1961.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Not just money being pumped into their WR corp., who is the QB throwing to them? I know a lot of people glow about the depth of our WR corp. but give some of the credit for their "success" to AR. I am excluding Jordy and for the most part Cobb from this. The rest of the group are totally unproven guys that people are saying are part of a strong group. Who is really that strong from the remaining 5? Who made Jeff Janis look like (in some peoples eyes) the second coming of Jordy in Arizona? Our #1 WR in 2015 from that same group minus Jordy is unemployed. While I think our WR group as a whole could be talented, AR is a big part of why.

It's true that there are several question marks about the Packers receiving corps. But if Nelson is able to return to his pre-injury performance I expect the unit to perform on a high level.

Far superior? No. I see nothing that special from the current Packer WR'c corps. Nelson will be back, and he will have lost a step. Cobb is good, but after that, they really have no one to write home about. I am not saying the Vikings WR's are better, just that the Packers WR's aren't as far ahead as you think they are.

The Vikings don't have a single receiver on the roster that has had more than 720 receiving yards on the roster. The Packers have two elite players at the position in Nelson and Cobb. There's absolutely no doubt Green Bay's receiving corps os far superior to Minnesota's.

 

[Raptorman]

Vikings WR's sucked again today. How did the Packers WR's do?

Diggs only had 107 yards. Thielen a measly 54. And our TE Rudolph a paltry 64.

 

[longtimefan]

Vikings WR's sucked again today. How did the Packers WR's do?

Diggs only had 107 yards. Thielen a measly 54. And our TE Rudolph a paltry 64.

they did good..Nelson maybe a tad slower, but he still had nice moves---32 yards...Cobb same thing. 57 yards ..Adams had his drops but had a good td grab. 50 yards.

TE Rodgers had two good catches but one i think was called back

Aaron had a good day, even ran for a td

But I know your being sarcastic..

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Vikings WR's sucked again today. How did the Packers WR's do?

Diggs only had 107 yards. Thielen a measly 54. And our TE Rudolph a paltry 64.

A single game, especially against a terrible team like the Titans, is a way too small sample size. Or do you believe Peterson is done after only rushing for 31 yards on 19 attempts???

 

[bigbubbatd]

Vikings WR's sucked again today. How did the Packers WR's do?

Diggs only had 107 yards. Thielen a measly 54. And our TE Rudolph a paltry 64.

Diggs had a nice game. I said he would be the number 3 wr on the Packers and I still say that. Good player.

But honestly your wrs are going to catch some passes bc someone has to. They caught 11 yesterday. Wrs not named Diggs had 6 catches for 65 yards or something. The Packer wrs caught 16 passes but spread the ball around. If Rudolph is able to return to what he was a few years ago that would be a huge fore the Vikings.

However before getting all hot and bothered about the Viking wrs remember that their offense accounted for 9 points. 2 defensive scores and a kick return in which the vikings offense went 3 and out but got a fg lead to 16 points.

The Vikings defense was a little bit off early giving up longer drives and some points to a bad offense but boy did they come through in the second half. The internet return by Kendrick was huge. The Titans were driving again and in fg range to go up a td and that play changed all the momentum. The Vikings d was more bend but don't break early but it showed what people had been expecting the second half. Nice win hoping Sunday is a different story

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So who starts at QB for the Vikings on Sunday night? The best case scenario for a Packer fan would be to see Bradford get the start, struggle mightily and after his second pick six, the Vikings trot Hill in, knowing they still haven't found a replacement for Bridgewater.

 

[Vrill]

I'm hoping Bradford starts for them too, LOL

 

[jrock645]

I don't think it matters which QB they start. Rodgers isn't going to gift them two TD's like Mariota did. You can't even credit the Minny D too much for those. The handoff was just a flat out goof and that INT he just effed up and threw it right to him... like he didn't even see him there.

This game is going to come down to wrapping up AP, and being able to get Lacy going a bit. The team that does well on the ground wins.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If nothing else, the Vikings spending a first and 4th round draft pick on Bradford has given them the added option of surprise and playing coy before each game with their starting QB decision.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-keep-qb-cards-close-to-vest-again-this-week/

 

[Deleted member 6794]

This game is going to come down to wrapping up AP, and being able to get Lacy going a bit. The team that does well on the ground wins.

As long as the Packers defense is able to contain Peterson there's no way they lose this game.

 

[Raptorman]

As long as the Packers defense is able to contain Peterson there's no way they lose this game.

Not necessarily true. The Vikings have won 5 games and tied one with Peterson against the Packers. Those games he ran for 146, 67, 192, 55, 199, and 97. In the 10 Vikings loses with Peterson, 5 he had less than a 100 and 5 he had over 100. The interesting part is this. If the Packers hold him to less than 100, as they have in 8 games, he averages 62 yards a game. If they don't hold him he averages 159 yards a game.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Not necessarily true. The Vikings have won 5 games and tied one with Peterson against the Packers. Those games he ran for 146, 67, 192, 55, 199, and 97.

Well, in two of the games the Vikings won with Peterson running for less than 100 yards Minnesota had Favre as their quarterback and not either Hill or a newly arrived Bradford. Last year's season finale is the outlier with the Packers offense struggling mightily.

I'm convinced that the Packers defense containing Peterson is the key to this week's matchup as I don't expect the Vikings to put up a lot of points if that's the case.

 

[Raptorman]

Well, in two of the games the Vikings won with Peterson running for less than 100 yards Minnesota had Favre as their quarterback and not either Hill or a newly arrived Bradford. Last year's season finale is the outlier with the Packers offense struggling mightily.

I'm convinced that the Packers defense containing Peterson is the key to this week's matchup as I don't expect the Vikings to put up a lot of points if that's the case.

It would not surprise me if that's how it turns out. It will be interesting to see if its a feast or famine day for Peterson.

 

[PMS 269]

And Mark Sanchez was just signed by Dallas. Vikings front office is dumb. If they had waited they could have had a Bradford clone in Sanchez without giving up your future (ie 1st rounder)

That isn't true at all, Dallas had a higher waiver priority.

 

[HardRightEdge]

That isn't true at all, Dallas had a higher waiver priority.

Vested veterans (4 years or more of pension credit) are not subject to the waiver system. They become free agents when cut. Sanchez has 6 full years in the league; he was not subject to waivers.

 

[Half Empty]

Pretty sure Sanchez is a vested veteran and not subject to the waiver process.