Anders Carlson

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Got Longwell off waivers in'97. He went to the Vikes as a free agent in '06. Dave Rayner kicked for the Pack in '06. Crosby was drafted in the 6th round in '07 and stayed through '22. Longwell and Crosby each went to a different team for their last (insignificant) year.
Thanks for the timeline. I do not remember Dave Rayner and didn't know Longwell was taken from waivers.
 

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Thanks for the reminder. I forgot that Sherman served as HC and GM for a very short time. And then Holmgren left for Seattle because he wanted both jobs and GB refused.

There is far too much work being either a GM or a HC. Just no way one person could do both and be good. I was pissed when Holmgren left. In hindsight it worked out just fine.

And yeah, I'm surprised Favre didn't ask for a trade after 2004. Although it worked out and the Packers got back to the NFCCG in, I think January of 2008. (Yeah and the Giants won in bitter cold in OT at Lambeau.)

I think that was Favre's last game with GB. I think Rodgers was drafted in 2005 and started in September 2008. Well, I think.......
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Thanks for the timeline. I do not remember Dave Rayner and didn't know Longwell was taken from waivers.
Longwell was picked up because Chris Jacke went free agent and our PK draft pick, Brett Conway, had a horrific opening preseason game. Conway got hurt over doing it in practice and Longwell made his debut against the Raiders the next game. Conway became toast. He got a tryout in 1998 but the Packers stayed with Longwell. Rayner was an interim kicker. He did hit a long game winner against the Vikings in late 2006 for a 9-7 victory.
 

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Kicking for the Titans. Sunday missed a long FG, made both EPs.
Didn't realized the Titans had played him.

He is perfect on XP's (16 of 16), but his 66.7% (12 of 18) on FG's doesn't bode well for his future. Also doesn't help that he has missed one (3 of 4) from 30-39 yards and missed four (5 of 9) from 40-49. If you throw in the 50+ miss, that puts him at 57% from 30 yards and beyond.

Granted, he only has attempted 18 FG's in his short career, so each make will boost his average up, but so will each miss. I'll take McManus over him or Carlson every time, every kick!
 

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Longwell was picked up because Chris Jacke went free agent and our PK draft pick, Brett Conway, had a horrific opening preseason game. Conway got hurt over doing it in practice and Longwell made his debut against the Raiders the next game. Conway became toast. He got a tryout in 1998 but the Packers stayed with Longwell. Rayner was an interim kicker. He did hit a long game winner against the Vikings in late 2006 for a 9-7 victory.
And I had the feeling they would have kept Conway and let Longwell go if Conway wouldn't have gotten hurt. Only because he was a draft pick. That would have been a big mistake.
 

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And I had the feeling they would have kept Conway and let Longwell go if Conway wouldn't have gotten hurt. Only because he was a draft pick. That would have been a big mistake.
Conway had the leg but just could not translate into accuracy. Kind of like a punter we drafted some years later named BJ Sander.
 

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Thanks milani. Some parts of my memory still work.

I also remember that between Favre's last game and the decision to start Rodgers, Favre retired and unretired a few a few times, notoriously after the draft in 2008. I think Harlan and a few other guys flew to Mississippi to get him to change his mind. He didn't and then he flew to GB to plead with the team to take him back. What a headache. They finally traded him to the Jets and the Rodgers era started.
 
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So, he wasn't a good draft pick?
Taking a K in the draft is a real crap shoot. How does a scout pick from hundreds of kickers, when it's possible that a solid K will come from other than D1, many times as an UDFA?

Anyway, Carlson was probably a good pick at the time. He has a huge leg but he also has a chronic case of the yips. No thanks.
 

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Longwell was picked up because Chris Jacke went free agent and our PK draft pick, Brett Conway, had a horrific opening preseason game. Conway got hurt over doing it in practice and Longwell made his debut against the Raiders the next game. Conway became toast. He got a tryout in 1998 but the Packers stayed with Longwell. Rayner was an interim kicker. He did hit a long game winner against the Vikings in late 2006 for a 9-7 victory.
Jacke is another guy I remember as having a good career in GB.

Finding a PK always seemed to go GB's way with some skill and a lot of luck. We had to suffer through a year of Carlson. He certainly has had his chances. Gluten did an awesome job pulling McManus put of career oblivion. It's still very hard to find solid draft talent at PK.
 
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