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I am sure there are a few "I want this guy" in the fire McCarthy post but should we have a real post for who we want and who would be an upgrade. I will be honest I pay attention to college football as much as I do politics (absolutely none except for gambling purposes) please enlighten me. With that being said will the next person be just the head coach? Or will a new coach bring in his own coordinators to run the and call plays?
 

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MM has the rest of this so far dud season to pick himself up, get some football interest again, and show people he can organize, strategize, and still coach. The last few years he’s been like a politician... whining about problems, complaining about and turning on people who question him, and coming out with the same old vote for me I’ll make it better next time stump speeches. And like politicians... no constructive plans and same old same old. Problem with making a coaching change is that there are really no proven coaches out there free. It would be like a crap shoot bringing someone in... just like Devine, Starr, lindy... look good on paper, but who knows? I do know one thing as just a fan... priority should be getting someone who can put together a plan to utilize Rodgers talent and turn him loose. Also someone who realizes how important, yet overlooked offensive and defensive line play is. Gotta protect your QB and get instant pressure on the opponents QB in 2018, 2019, ... to win.
Just my regular people thoughts.
 

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MM has the rest of this so far dud season to pick himself up, get some football interest again, and show people he can organize, strategize, and still coach. The last few years he’s been like a politician... whining about problems, complaining about and turning on people who question him, and coming out with the same old vote for me I’ll make it better next time stump speeches. And like politicians... no constructive plans and same old same old. Problem with making a coaching change is that there are really no proven coaches out there free. It would be like a crap shoot bringing someone in... just like Devine, Starr, lindy... look good on paper, but who knows? I do know one thing as just a fan... priority should be getting someone who can put together a plan to utilize Rodgers talent and turn him loose. Also someone who realizes how important, yet overlooked offensive and defensive line play is. Gotta protect your QB and get instant pressure on the opponents QB in 2018, 2019, ... to win.
Just my regular people thoughts.
Btw.... no broke collar bone and a pretty much intact team this year....if the teams not good enough.. the coach put it together... if the team is good enough and not winning... the coach isn’t doing something right. Bottom line.
 

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Btw.... no broke collar bone and a pretty much intact team this year....if the teams not good enough.. the coach put it together... if the team is good enough and not winning... the coach isn’t doing something right. Bottom line.
Ha, this is what happens when people paint with a broad brush. I'll see your no broke Collar bone and raise you 1 good knee and 6 weeks with no practice between games at the most important position on the field LOL with the last 2 games being against odds on favorites to be the Super Bowl representatives in each conference and on the road.

This team has it's issues, don't get me wrong, but it's amazing how little context people have about things.
 

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Ha, this is what happens when people paint with a broad brush. I'll see your no broke Collar bone and raise you 1 good knee and 6 weeks with no practice between games at the most important position on the field LOL with the last 2 games being against odds on favorites to be the Super Bowl representatives in each conference and on the road.

This team has it's issues, don't get me wrong, but it's amazing how little context people have about things.
Hmmm. It’s a team sport. AR says the knees been fine, and doubt they’d send their $150M franchise out on the field in a crummy season to make things worse. Ok, so they lost to the rams who were exposed and pounded by the saints, and they lost to an aging broken down contender team that previously dropped two games to not so great teams. So your point would be the packers can’t beat bad teams, middle of the road teams with consistency and can’t beat questionable contender teams... which means the packers as a team just simply aren’t playoff contenders healthy or unhealthy. And after over a decade of experience, doubt if AR needs to do much more on the physical side to prepare for a game than toss a few passes to get the kinks out of his arm. Broad brush context is exactly what’s needed. Time to look at the big picture rather than minimal weekly excuses.
 

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“We gotta nip this thing in the bud.... that’s right, nip it in the bud... before it gets outa hand.... nip it... nip it”.
Deputy Barney Fife.... wise words to live by.
 

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oh, ok LOL You must not watch the games I take it if you think Rodgers has not been limited. and you don't think 6 weeks of not practicing with the team affects game day performance LOL
 

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Rodgers has been slightly limited for sure, but it is pretty naive to simply blame his knee for where we're at this season. If one players knee is the difference between looking mediocre or looking like a contender then that team is obviously quite flawed to being with.
 

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oh, ok LOL You must not watch the games I take it if you think Rodgers has not been limited. and you don't think 6 weeks of not practicing with the team affects game day performance LOL


As far as Rogers goes, I definitely believe that the knee has affected his mechanics.
 

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I was listening to a radio show one day and they were talking about being up in Green Bay and asked if they could see Rodgers Brace. Now maybe I heard them wrong, but I swear one of them said it weighed 92 pounds! If that is true, I'm shocked he could even still run.
 

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Rodgers has been slightly limited for sure, but it is pretty naive to simply blame his knee for where we're at this season. If one players knee is the difference between looking mediocre or looking like a contender then that team is obviously quite flawed to being with.

Well we already got a view of what the team looked like last season without Rodgers and I would say this team is playing better than the one Hundley was in charge of. I'm not going to blame his knee for everything, but have to agree with anyone that says it definitely has effected his play.

I also agree with you that this team is flawed, I don't think anyone is trying to say they aren't. But they probably would have been better to this point with a 100% healthy Rodgers.

I tore my MCL a few years ago and just let it heal on its own, while wearing a brace. It effected almost everything I did. Then when the brace came off for skiing season, it may have been healed, but I can tell you it was 100% on my mind on almost every run down the slopes.
 
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It can't all be blamed on the knee. Never my intention. Just found it funny that someone would say because the collar bone is healed, all is well :)
 

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As far as Rogers goes, I definitely believe that the knee has affected his mechanics.
Not just his mechanics, but his brain as well. That knee has been on his mind a lot I would imagine and he has had to figure out ways to do his job wearing a heavy brace and the fear of having it hit on almost any play.
 

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Well we already got a view of what the team looked like last season without Rodgers and I would call this team better than the one Hundley was in charge of. I'm not going to blame his knee for everything, but have to agree with anyone that says it definitely has effected his play.

No doubt for sure. They even mention Rodgers passing stats while rolling to his right and how much worse they were vs rolling left. But you can't blame that for the sheer amount of undisciplined errors we make each and every week as a team. The drive killing penalties on offense, and conversely the drive extending penalties on D. It's like each week we're the team that commits the boneheaded play that seals our fate
 

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It can't all be blamed on the knee. Never my intention. Just found it funny that someone would say because the collar bone is healed, all is well :)

That's my fault for never reading all the pages of context.. I do agree with Rodgers looking different though whether from injury or whatever. He seems to under throw a lot of guys from all distances throughout the game
 

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It can't all be blamed on the knee. Never my intention. Just found it funny that someone would say because the collar bone is healed, all is well :)
Wtf? Got a few assumption, comprehension, and other issues there that maybe could be resolved with good therapy. Your spin, not what I typed at all, and doubt if the packers front office or ESPN is knocking down your door with job offers either. Ha. Lol. And whatever else gets your squirrels running.
 

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Wtf? Got a few assumption, comprehension, and other issues there that maybe could be resolved with good therapy. Your spin, not what I typed at all, and doubt if the packers front office or ESPN is knocking down your door with job offers either. Ha. Lol. And whatever else gets your squirrels running.
Oh, ok lol

I don’t doubt if you have a creative writing assignment do for Sophomore Comp and grammar.
 

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As far as Rogers goes, I definitely believe that the knee has affected his mechanics.
Agree, slightly limited. But he’s one of the top two quarterbacks in the world. And it’s not like he should have to run a 4.3 forty or win dancing with the stars. Especially at this point. Drew, Payton, Tom, ... all changed their game and replaced running with experience. Bottom line is he’s still more than mobile enough, but the guys swamped the second he gets the ball, and there doesn’t ever seem to be any game plan or play adjustments from the coaching side to compensate. And... even with all that... he’s still putting up numbers that are good enough to win... with a little more team and coaching step ups. Just my take.
 

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Oh, ok lol

I don’t doubt if you have a creative writing assignment do for Sophomore Comp and grammar.
Ok biff. I log on here for some good peaceful respectful discussion and opinion. I let your freaking insults slide twice. But there’s a limit to my turning the benevolent cheek whether on a comment board or in person. You’re just an ***.
 

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Ok biff. I log on here for some good peaceful respectful discussion and opinion. I let your freaking insults slide twice. But there’s a limit to my turning the benevolent cheek whether on a comment board or in person. You’re just an ***.
awwww, passive aggressive turns aggressive. Shocking LOL

You come in here saying the QB is fine, the team is fine, we're not winning so it's the coaches fault. I pointed out you may have missed a few important details and you come back with some childish quips about therapy and benevolence LOL I could only assume you forgot to turn in your creative writing assignment. Anyway, I've been called worse and if you can't handle a few comments back, don't start.
 
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