2022 Free Agents/Cuts/Players of Interest to Talk About

[tynimiller]

No joke that roster in Cleveland with Deshaun could be DEADLY

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sounds like Mike Lynn's trade for Herschel Walker. Shame on Cleveland for being so foolish.

I don't want to get into a big debate about Watson's legal issues, since they are still ongoing, but I can imagine that a lot of Browns fans aren't all that happy to get him and his baggage.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

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It appears the Packers are keeping kicker Mason Crosby. At this point, there's no change in his status or his contract, a source said. He's scheduled to make $3.4 million with a cap charge of $4.735M.

As mentioned in another thread the Packers will have Crosby compete for his job. There's no guarantee he will be on the roster in week 1 though.

 

[tynimiller]

As mentioned in another thread the Packers will have Crosby compete for his job. There's no guarantee he will be on the roster in week 1 though.

I just hate wasting even a million on him if he loses that job but praying we hold on to Eberle worst case I do think he is the kicker here of the future

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As mentioned in another thread the Packers will have Crosby compete for his job. There's no guarantee he will be on the roster in week 1 though.

Right, as I said in another thread, they must have decided that giving him the workout bonus of $500K is ok and he will compete in camp. Unless, they cut him before the WO bonus kicks in.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I just hate wasting even a million on him if he loses that job but praying we hold on to Eberle worst case I do think he is the kicker here of the future

I agree the Packers aren't in a position to pay a $500K workout to any player competing for a roster spot.

Right, as I said in another thread, they must have decided that giving him the workout bonus of $500K is ok and he will compete in camp. Unless, they cut him before the WO bonus kicks in.

The Packers could restructure Crosby's contract before the workout bonus kicks in as well.

 

[tynimiller]

Calais Campbell...man I kinda wish we could afford him because dude is still productive, adds a veteran presence and hits one of our two absolutely weakest spots on the roster presently. Just think he'd cost too much.

 

[tynimiller]

Honestly the WR pool in FA has me not wanting GB to force a signing and perhaps force one of the guys out there to be a #1 when they're really a #2.

Personally I say go convince Julio to sign, enter the draft and get two in top 5 picks (#22 - #92) and then make the real move possibly before trade deadline for a guy like:

Metcalf if Seahawks struggle...
DeVante Parker...
Someone similar on a team that decides to tear it down...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Packers could restructure Crosby's contract before the workout bonus kicks in as well.

They could, if he agrees to it, which I think he would. I actually thought that is what they would do, before they signed a 3rd kicker in Eberle. Clearly, they still could and it doesn't lock up the job for him. I think they are willing to give him the $500K as a gesture of good faith, but might use that in negotiations of a new contract if the competition is close.

Personally I say go convince Julio to sign, enter the draft and get two in top 5 picks (#22 - #92) and then make the real move possibly before trade deadline for a guy like:

While they might find themselves needing another WR at the trade deadline, I sure would rather have that position set going into camp. Seems like WR's and TE's need some time with Rodgers, before the 2 of them find their groove. Knowing that, I would love to know what Jared Cook wants. I know we just resigned Tonyan, but who knows when he will be ready. A lot of what they do at TE will also depend on where they think Deguara is at in his development. I didn't see a while lot, but I'm also not a coach that sees him every practice and game.

 

[tynimiller]

They could, if he agrees to it, which I think he would. I actually thought that is what they would do, before they signed a 3rd kicker in Eberle. Clearly, they still could and it doesn't lock up the job for him. I think they are willing to give him the $500K as a gesture of good faith, but might use that in negotiations of a new contract if the competition is close.

While they might find themselves needing another WR at the trade deadline, I sure would rather have that position set going into camp. Seems like WR's and TE's need some time with Rodgers, before the 2 of them find their groove. Knowing that, I would love to know what Jared Cook wants. I know we just resigned Tonyan, but who knows when he will be ready. A lot of what they do at TE will also depend on where they think Deguara is at in his development. I didn't see a while lot, but I'm also not a coach that sees him every practice and game.

I also think Gute is going to have a side eye on his phone at #22 for a call as well...it's a spot that is ripe for knowing and seeing how the QBs play out...with really presently only three/four "main" QB needy teams picking before that (Panthers, Saints, Seahawks, Steelers) with a team like the Lions or the Colts who need QBs to possibly have a QB they're high enough on to make a move for at that point, but too expensive prior. This is a draft that I could see zero QBs go before pick 30 or we will see a typical move and 2 or 3 will be gone by then...weak QB classes are TOUGH to predict.

 

[OldSchool101]

I also think Gute is going to have a side eye on his phone at #22 for a call as well...it's a spot that is ripe for knowing and seeing how the QBs play out...with really presently only three/four "main" QB needy teams picking before that (Panthers, Saints, Seahawks, Steelers) with a team like the Lions or the Colts who need QBs to possibly have a QB they're high enough on to make a move for at that point, but too expensive prior. This is a draft that I could see zero QBs go before pick 30 or we will see a typical move and 2 or 3 will be gone by then...weak QB classes are TOUGH to predict.

This draft is more unpredictable at several positions. WR, TE and QB all have some ?
I’ve seen some mocks with WR selected well into the top 10..
and then others flirting with a first WR off the board around 20 overall (Patriots seem to also be in need in some mocks btw)
The shortage of Blue chip players at various positions at the top drive the market at the opposite positions. Once 1 goes everyone panics.

TE needy teams will suffer the most unless they have our draft capital or better., that’s a position that might not see a top 40-50 selection, which is rare. Yet there could be 6-7 gone by pick the Packers 3rd round area.
As you are Likely aware (pun intended!)

There are “hot pockets” of talent in certain position areas. It’s not a very balanced or spread out draft imo.

All that said. To me? This draft creates a strong possibility of several key players sliding more than usual, while others teams reaching too hard

 

[tynimiller]

This draft is more unpredictable at several positions. WR, TE and QB all have some ?
The shortage of Blue chip players at the top drive the market. Once 1 goes everyone panics. TE needy teams will suffer the most unless they have our draft capital or better., that’s a position that might not see a top 40 selection, which is rare.

This is one reason why I think iDL could see a run in the first un like other years...that and EDGE players I think could flirt with ten picked or so by Day 1's end...my list:

8 guys I think are locks for first round:
Aidan Hutchinson
Kayvon Thibodeaux
Travon Walker
Jermaine Johnson
Ojabo (believe still makes it despite injury)
Jordan Davis
DeVonte Wyatt
George Karlaftis

3 Possibles in the first round IMO:
Perrion Winfrey
Boy Mafe
DeMarvin Leal

4 Outside chance maybe IMO:
Cameron Thomas
Logan Hall
Travis Jones
Arnold Ebiketie

 

[tynimiller]

This draft is more unpredictable at several positions. WR, TE and QB all have some ?
I’ve seen WR selected well into the top 10 and then others flirting with a first WR drafted around 20 overall (Patriots seem to also be in need in some mocks)
The shortage of Blue chip players at various positions at the top drive the market. Once 1 goes everyone panics.
TE needy teams will suffer the most unless they have our draft capital or better., that’s a position that might not see a top 40-50 selection, which is rare. Yet there could be 6-7 gone by pick the Packers 3rd round area.

As you of anyone is aware. There are “hot pockets” of talent in certain position areas. It’s not a very balanced or spread out draft imo.

I believe for once prospective ILBs may be the most even class in the draft. There are guys I like every day of the draft, every round and nearly every 10-20 pick groupings.

 

[OldSchool101]

I believe for once prospective ILBs may be the most even class in the draft. There are guys I like every day of the draft, every round and nearly every 10-20 pick groupings.

Nice. I’d love another ILB as long as he can play pass coverage and blitz well. Kinda a “Star position”.
My gut tells me to tell Gutey NOT to reach too hard this draft and remain patient (other than maybe a few slots) except at #1 WR.
Some nice ones will fall in our lap

 

[wist43]

My #1 want is Jameson Williams, but he would have to drop into the mid-teens, and Gute would have to trade up for him.

 

[tynimiller]

My #1 want is Jameson Williams, but he would have to drop into the mid-teens, and Gute would have to trade up for him.

His injury I think takes the WR1 pick from him, but just barely if it does. I think Drake London or Garret Wilson plucks that pedestal. The order the top 5 WRs go in is VERY interesting!

 

[tynimiller]

Nice. I’d love another ILB as long as he can play pass coverage and blitz well.
My gut tells me to tell Gutey NOT to reach too hard this draft and remain patient (other than maybe 2-5 slots) Some nice ones will fall in our lap

Yeah lot of folks when Devondre was signed are now ignoring the LB class altogether forget; Summers contract is up after this year, McDuffie is just now entering his second year and Krys Barnes might very well play himself into an expensive situation GB doesn't want to do (two straight years being a starter level LB for us). I think we have to come out of this draft with minimum one if not two...for the future prospect of it and the current ST part of it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is one reason why I think iDL could see a run in the first un like other years...that and EDGE players I think could flirt with ten picked or so by Day 1's end...my list:

I agree and as much as I would love another OLB, with Gary and Smith, we have higher needs. Also, as much as I would love to see 1 of the top 2 or 3 iDL guys in Green Bay, not sure if using a first rounder is good value there. Might get just as good of a player with one of their second rounders. For me a stud WR is #1 priority. I'm not a big fan of OL in the first round, but if a guy they had in the top 15 is still there at #28, I might grab him. That probably goes for an OLB too.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

His injury I think takes the WR1 pick from him, but just barely if it does. I think Drake London or Garret Wilson plucks that pedestal. The order the top 5 WRs go in is VERY interesting!

Agreed and between injuries and having 2 sets of top WR's being on the same team, it has me a bit cautious on all that fall into that category. Wilson and Olave are both probably going to be really good NFL WR's but how much did they benefit off each other, as well as being in the OSU offense? Same goes with the 2 from Alabama, Williams and Metchie. Those 2 combined talent on the same team, with coming off of injuries.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah lot of folks when Devondre was signed are now ignoring the LB class altogether forget; Summers contract is up after this year, McDuffie is just now entering his second year and Krys Barnes might very well play himself into an expensive situation GB doesn't want to do (two straight years being a starter level LB for us). I think we have to come out of this draft with minimum one if not two...for the future prospect of it and the current ST part of it.

I'm a big ILB guy, but the rest of the NFL doesn't seem to value them as much. Campbell definitely improves the position, but it would be nice to have another stud next to him. Barnes just might be that guy and he is a RFA next year. I think the Packers have greater needs at WR, iDL and even potentially S and the OL, before I would invest too much draft stock into ILB. Now, if a really top prospect is sitting there with their second pick in the 2nd round, it might be worth it. I really like Leo Chanel, but think he is more a late 3rd or 4th rounder. I also like what the Packers did to address ILB last year, they found a Free Agent that wasn't that highly valued. I think his impact on the game is well worth the investment.

 

[Pkrjones]

I would like Gute to grab ILB Jack Sanborn later in the draft. Don't want him with our 5th rounder (#171), but not sure if he makes it to #228. Maybe if Gute slides around we'll end up with a 6th rounder for Sanborn? He's a great read/react run stuffer, not good in coverage but I think he's better than Summer or Burks if needed to play D.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I would like Gute to grab ILB Jack Sanborn later in the draft. Don't want him with our 5th rounder (#171), but not sure if he makes it to #228. Maybe if Gute slides around we'll end up with a 6th rounder for Sanborn? He's a great read/react run stuffer, not good in coverage but I think he's better than Summer or Burks if needed to play D.

Sanborn and Chanel are 2 interesting ILB prospects out of Wisconsin. I prefer Chanel by a pretty wide margin, but not enough to select him too high. If Chanel is still around in the late 3rd or they can get a pick in the early 4th, I say grab him. If they miss him and Sanborn is around in the 6th, you grab him. Chanel is more of a complete LB than Sanborn. Sanborn wasn't tested much on coverage and he tended to be a straight line guy up a hole. Kind of boom or bust. I think both guys would make great special teamers, due to size, speed and football IQ. I also think both are development guys, with Chanel having the higher ceiling.

 

[Pkrjones]

Sanborn and Chanel are 2 interesting ILB prospects out of Wisconsin. I prefer Chanel by a pretty wide margin, but not enough to select him too high. If Chanel is still around in the late 3rd or they can get a pick in the early 4th, I say grab him. If they miss him and Sanborn is around in the 6th, you grab him. Chanel is more of a complete LB than Sanborn. Sanborn wasn't tested much on coverage and he tended to be a straight line guy up a hole. Kind of boom or bust. I think both guys would make great special teamers, due to size, speed and football IQ. I also think both are development guys, with Chanel having the higher ceiling.

Agree with all of this. Chose Sanborn because I don't want to spend a 3rd or high 4th rounder on an ILB, especially who isn't great at coverage. Sanborn in the 6th gives GB a solid backup at ILB AND a ST demon for a few years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Agree with all of this. Chose Sanborn because I don't want to spend a 3rd or high 4th rounder on an ILB, especially who isn't great at coverage. Sanborn in the 6th gives GB a solid backup at ILB AND a ST demon for a few years.

Depending on what the Packer needs are and how players shake out, if somehow Chanel drops into our lap at the right time, I would love to have him. I don't think he is the next TJ Watt, but he could be damn close to a version of him at ILB, if he keep progressing. Despite some peoples beliefs on Wisconsin producing solid NFL RB's, they are also pretty good at spitting out NFL Linebackers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I doubt it effects either team that much as far as selecting a QB in this draft, but interesting that the Falcons say farewell to Ryan.

Probably more note worthy is the cap hit the Falcons absorbed to do this. A dead cap hit of $40.525M for the Falcons, the largest dead cap hit in NFL history by nearly $7M.

Colts acquire Matt Ryan from Falcons in latest NFL shakeup

Matt Ryan appears to be the latest quarterback on the move.

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