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[sschind]

Agreed. Even if there was a dome in GB, and there won't be in my lifetime, you are correct that there aren't close to enough hotel rooms - well unless you count Chicago.

So even if the NFL decided to play a SB at Lambeau as it is today, open to the elements, it wouldn't be possible logistically.

Now would I still love to see a SB played there? Most definitely. But the NFL is all about maximizing $$$ for itself and the host community. It's just not gonna happen. The lack of hotel space and the lack of anything else to do but watch the game make it damn near impossible. But never say never, eh? (Still not gonna happen.)

If the surfing competition during the PARIS Olympics can be held 10,000 miles away in Tahiti...

 

[Pkrjones]

Almost, in a manner of speaking.

Last Green Bay possession in the history of County Stadium... on 3 and 2 from the 9, no timeouts... the pass play broke down and he took off for the end zone, diving across the goal line with 13 seconds to go. Green Bay beats Atlanta 17-14 ...

I was at that game, upper deck 1st base line!! Crowd collectively groaned when Favre started running and then went nuts when he scored. Good times...

 

[Voyageur]

Agreed. Even if there was a dome in GB, and there won't be in my lifetime, you are correct that there aren't close to enough hotel rooms - well unless you count Chicago.

So even if the NFL decided to play a SB at Lambeau as it is today, open to the elements, it wouldn't be possible logistically.

Now would I still love to see a SB played there? Most definitely. But the NFL is all about maximizing $$$ for itself and the host community. It's just not gonna happen. The lack of hotel space and the lack of anything else to do but watch the game make it damn near impossible. But never say never, eh? (Still not gonna happen.)

I agree with Poppa. The places to stay just aren't there, within a reasonable driving distance to Green Bay, for hosting a Super Bowl game, and the surrounding activities. The time may come, as population centers grow, where it's feasible, but as of now, I'd say it's a no go. Even holding the draft there is a stretch to be honest. Now, if either was a mid-summer event, you could host it, because there would be thousands of rental campers available, and temporary camp grounds throughout the entire area. Even the EAA camping would be fully opened for it.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

The only game at County Stadium I attended was the snow globe game where Sterling caught a pass, thought he was in the EZ, got stripped, but got the ball back for the TD.

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[Poppa San]

The only game at County Stadium I attended was the snow globe game where Sterling caught a pass, thought he was in the EZ, got stripped, but got the ball back for the TD.

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Wouldn't have happened if they'd have left the goalposts at the goal line.

 

[sschind]

The only game at County Stadium I attended was the snow globe game where Sterling caught a pass, thought he was in the EZ, got stripped, but got the ball back for the TD.

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Funny you should bring that up. That play just showed up on one of my facebook reels page yesterday.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I agree with Poppa. The places to stay just aren't there, within a reasonable driving distance to Green Bay, for hosting a Super Bowl game, and the surrounding activities. The time may come, as population centers grow, where it's feasible, but as of now, I'd say it's a no go. Even holding the draft there is a stretch to be honest. Now, if either was a mid-summer event, you could host it, because there would be thousands of rental campers available, and temporary camp grounds throughout the entire area. Even the EAA camping would be fully opened for it.

I wa surprised to hear that the draft would be held in GB. That event is well attended and so, where does everyone stay? April isn't exactly camping weather. I haven't seen the plan but assume the crowd size can be accommodated.

 

[Poppa San]

I wa surprised to hear that the draft would be held in GB. That event is well attended and so, where does everyone stay? April isn't exactly camping weather. I haven't seen the plan but assume the crowd size can be accommodated.

You may want to peruse the thread in the Draft section of this board. Maybe ask your question there but the short answer is the league booked across the street in Titletown district and most of the upper star hotels in GB. The Valley and Milwaukee are full with the networks and people with connections. Most other hotels within 100 miles are booked just like they would be on home game weekends.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

You may want to peruse the thread in the Draft section of this board. Maybe ask your question there but the short answer is the league booked across the street in Titletown district and most of the upper star hotels in GB. The Valley and Milwaukee are full with the networks and people with connections. Most other hotels within 100 miles are booked just like they would be on home game weekends.

It's also been stated that they are bring in cruise ships to park in the Bay to act as extra hotels.

 

[Pkrjones]

It's also been stated that they are bring in cruise ships to park in the Bay to act as extra hotels.

I'm guessing you say this in jest? Isn't the bay still partially/modtly ice covered, still, in late April? I'm from "way down south" (Menomonee Falls) & thought the bay froze over Dec.-April?

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I'm guessing you say this in jest? Isn't the bay still partially/modtly ice covered, still, in late April? I'm from "way down south" (Menomonee Falls) & thought the bay froze over Dec.-April?

No, not in jest. I heard that reported somewhere.

 

[OldSchool101]

I had a specific image of a player and play in mind when I looked for the red uniforms but I couldn't find it. I'm pretty sure it was on a kickoff return as the player was the only one in the shot. I thought it was the Cardinals and these come very close but I don't recall the white on the pants or the white helmet which would have distracted me from the amount of red.

I actually think it might have been one of these but again there just seems to be too much non red but maybe the return man was wearing sleeves. Anyway my first reaction was that guy is wearing his underwear outside his uniform.

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I swear those Red shoes look like Clogs with cleats in the bottom. I think I remember my Older brother wearing a pair in the early 1980’s.. trying to be a trendsetter

 

[sschind]

It's also been stated that they are bring in cruise ships to park in the Bay to act as extra hotels.

Had to laugh because didn't they do this for one of the Super Bowls?

Edit: I guess they have done it for several super bowls from what I could gather. Seems like a reasonable reaction but would ocean going cruise ship companies want to give up a weeks worth of cruising passengers to dock a ship for however long it would take.

As far as Green bay goes I just read a blurb from one of Murphy's Q&A sessions where he said it is might be an option.

 

[Voyageur]

As of early 2023, there were close to a dozen cruise ships operating in the Great Lakes. Their season starts in late May, and ends about Labor Day, or shortly after, because of temps on the lakes. But, that could signal that several of these ships could spend the winter harbored in Green Bay. Whether or not they would require water agitation units to keep the hulls from being damaged by the ice, I don't know, but I think using them is a distinct possibility.

I can picture them selling one week onboard packages, without leaving the harbor, for up to $1,000 a night, with double occupancy on up, and if they have 600 cabins to rent, we're talking .... let's say 6 nights, $12,000 per room, that's a grand total of $7,200,000, plus they'd have their bar sales, etc. Maybe even additional charges for meals. We're talking one heckuva lot of money out there for a short span of time. The cost of a six-day tour in August is roughly $6,300 a head, including meals, so I see no reason why they can't do even better while docked in Green Bay.

Anyway, that's my take on the potential of using the boats. Imagine 5 of them with a 600 to 800 capacity. That's 3,000 to 4,000 more rooms, and food venues as well. Tell someone that something is impossible, and there will always be that one person out there who looks at it, and decides they can make money off of it. That's when they look at a friend and say; "Hold my beer!"

 

[rmontro]

I'm guessing you say this in jest? Isn't the bay still partially/modtly ice covered, still, in late April?

I'm getting flashbacks to the Titanic. Oh, the humanity (and the Hindenburg, apparently).

 

[Thirteen Below]

Love that trout slapped analogy. I gotta remember it.

Seems so much more culturally acceptable than the other one that comes immediately to mind...

I can't begin to count the number of snow storms I drove through to get to work, school, or just out for the evening. Sometimes it was almost impossible to see where the road was. you'd just survey the whole area, figure out where the ditches were, and stay between them...

I remember having to master the fine art of calculating exactly how far apart the rows of fenceposts were that were sticking out of the tops of the snowdrifts, and calculating a course through the snow in front of the car that kept the post tops on each side of the road a reasonably precise distance apart.

I also remember my wife being absolutely certain I was making that up, until the first time we did it. She quickly gained an entirely new appreciation for what it meant to grow up in rural northern Wisconsin.... as soon as she got past being horrified, which did take a moment or two.

That's why I always laugh when they get a skiff of snow in areas like Austin, TX, and it's declared a disaster area, schools are closed, businesses, and government offices have abbreviated hours, and people are warned that they need to wear long johns, snowmobile suits, and ear muffs until 10 AM, when the temperatures would finally hit 70 degrees.

About 10 years back, I was in Nashvillefor 3-4 days for business, and they had a record cold snap - I mean, like single digits beiow zero. Honest to god, you would have thought you were in a war zone. Literally.

The roads were almost completely vacant, and the electronic info signs over the freeways warned people to stay off the roads and highway; no traveling adised, please stay in your homes - serious danger to public safety, etc. Nashville, one of my favorite American cities, was a ghost town at -4 degrees fahrenheit.

The really creepy thing about it was that people kept cranking up their ovens full blast, plugging every 40-year old space heater they could find into outlets or power strips that couldn't handle the amperage, even turning on hair dryers and letting them blast away.

Which meant that whenever I was outside driving around, I'd see columns of smoke all over the horizon, sometimes maybe even as many as a dozen at a time, because house fires. And it seemed like there was never a minute you couldn't hear sirens somewhere, firetrucks just racing all over town trying to keep up.

And I wasn't even wearing a jacket for short trips between the car and wherever I was going. Felt like I was back in Wisconsin. Man, i was in heaven, but the entire city thought they were in hell.

I can remember, back in 2011, going to a Doctor in Austin, wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I was sitting in the waiting room, with everyone staring at me. They were wearing long pants, hats, scarves, heavy coats, and thinking I was the weird one, even though the temps outside was hovering around 60.

I used to like to go out to LA for a couple of weeks at the end of February, get away from Minnesota for some warm weather hiking and rollerbading. I usually stay at a hotel in Santa Monica a block off the beach so I can rollerblade on the beach at sunset. I walk down from the Seashore Hotel and just put my wheels on, and can go 3-5 miles up and down the beach.


So.... it's a damp, drizzly winter day, low 50s.... gray, chilly, windy.... I'm wearing gym shorts and a Packer T-shirt.

I'm sitting on this little concrete wall, changing into my skates, and this Hispanic or maybe Filipino guy, maybe 5'5"-5'6" walks up with an old-fashionaed, 60's-style bicycle. He's wearing a big, puffy parka, and I couldn't help chuckling at how overdressed he was.

But then he starts digging around in the pockets of the parka.

First thing he hauls out is a stocking cap, which he pulls down all the way over his ears. Digs back into his pockets, and the next thing he drags out is a muffler - which he wraps entirely around his throat and the lower half of his face, and tucks it into the top of his parka.

All that's left of his face now is his glasses, peering out between the bottom of the cap and the top of his muffler.

He zips up the parka, then buttons up the row of button snaps on the front... and, burrows down into those pockets to unearth a pair of puffy mittens.

Pulls the mittens on, adjusts his muffler, climbs on board his Schwinn, starts rolling down the boardwalk - just this big, blue blub balanced on 2 wheels, wobbling along the beach.

There were 2 20-something LA blondes sitting a few feet away eating chicken from a food truck, and they watched the whole thing too. They looked at me and started laughing. I said, "I'd better go back to my motel and get some sweaters or something. I didn't realize how cold it must be out here."

It happens now, down here in the RGV, every time I got anywhere. You can spot the Yankees immediately. Most of us wouldn't be wearing long pants except if we're going to a funeral. We live in a sub-tropical area of the US, why would we treat ourselves like we were living above the dew line?

You, too?

Since I took early retirement 4 years ago, I can count on two hands the number of times I've worn long pants down here, and yeah, one was a funeral. Not counting the funeral, I can maybe even count on one hand. I even shovel with shorts.

We had s few 10-degree nights here last winter, and fast food places were closing down because nobody would come to work. Couldn't even order from Pizza Hut for a couple of days; their drivers refused to drive in it.

I just don't get it.

 

[weeds]

The last Packer game I attended in Milwaukee was a preseason game. We lost it to the Bears, 2-0. The only score was when a QB the Packers had, named Patrick (I think that's correct) stepped out of the back of the end zone for a safety. That was during the Green Bay inept years. My seat was directly behind a "pole," which was actually a girder, and to see the field at all, I had to lean over in front of the person next to me, on either side.

I made up my mind at that point that if I ever saw another ticket that said; "Partially obstructed view," I was going to turn and run away from it as fast as I could. That was somewhere about 1970 to 1972 if I recall correctly.

You know? It is entirely possible that I got that same exact crappy seat.

 

[Thirteen Below]

The places to stay just aren't there, within a reasonable driving distance to Green Bay, for hosting a Super Bowl game, and the surrounding activities. The time may come, as population centers grow, where it's feasible, but as of now, I'd say...
Now, if either was a mid-summer event, you could host it, because there would be thousands of rental campers available, and temporary camp grounds throughout the entire area. Even the EAA camping would be fully opened for it.

I don't think the Super Bowl crowd would be very eager to camp. Most of them treat the Super Bowl more like a weekend in Vegas than an actual football game, and it's probably just as important to have a high-class entertainment infrastructure than a hotel base. A Los Lobos show at Oneida Casino wouldn't make the grade.

Yeah, we're just never going to have one. We'll have to declare Minnesota and Chicago our "home fields" for the Super Bowl rotation. Chicago will probably get one very soon after they build ther new stadium.

 

[weeds]

Nashville, one of my favorite American cities, was a ghost town at -4 degrees ....

Here in Oshburg, at -4 degrees, we start thinkin' about shutting windows.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'm guessing you say this in jest? Isn't the bay still partially/modtly ice covered, still, in late April? I'm from "way down south" (Menomonee Falls) & thought the bay froze over Dec.-April?

I can believe it. Many years ago, it was common for Lake Michigan to completely freeze. That hasn't happened in years, probably decades. Even so, by April and given the mild winters we get now, a ship would have no trouble docking in GB or any Lake Michigan port city.

 

[Voyageur]

After reading all these posts on weather, I was thinking about a day that goes back to the first winter we spent in South Texas. It was right after New Years Day, and it was about 65 degrees out when I decided to go to the pool to enjoy a dip. So, it was about 7:30 AM, all was quiet, and I went down there. According to the weather forecast, by about 8 AM it was going to be 70, and going up rapidly from there.

The pool cleaners were there, and had just finished the pool, and were tidying everything up around the area. They were all wearing heavy jackets, and heavy clothing in general. Me? I was in my swim trunks, with a t-shirt on, and a towel, draped over my shoulder.

I greeted them, and they looked at me and shook their heads. They figured I was at least a couple bricks short of a load. Our pool was heated, and maintained an 83 temp. To me? That was paradise.

Unless you've spent time up North, and I really mean "UP North," a person hasn't got a clue as to how nice they've got it when they don't need to bundle up to go outside. Of course, now, in the middle of summer, we pay our price. Yesterday it was 101, today they say 102, but with any luck a "cold wave" is coming through and it will knock the temperature down into the mid to upper 90s. Of course, we win during the majority of the year. Having our game day Packer and Badger tailgate parties with temps in the 70s to low 80s. Watching the games outside, and not freezing our tails off is gigantic! I love it! Although, I will admit I do miss the days of going to Packer and Badger games and sitting in the stands, no matter how darned cold it was.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Love that trout slapped analogy. I gotta remember it.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Unless there are a metric boatload of hotel rooms built, ain't no way there is enough hospitality rooms withing 100 miles of GB to host a SB. Now, when the NFL eventually loses popularity next century and only 1/2 million people care, it might happen.

In the next century, we won't need hotel rooms....or roads!

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[sschind]

I don't think the Super Bowl crowd would be very eager to camp. Most of them treat the Super Bowl more like a weekend in Vegas than an actual football game, and it's probably just as important to have a high-class entertainment infrastructure than a hotel base. A Los Lobos show at Oneida Casino wouldn't make the grade.

Yeah, we're just never going to have one. We'll have to declare Minnesota and Chicago our "home fields" for the Super Bowl rotation. Chicago will probably get one very soon after they build ther new stadium.

Yeah, I can't see paying 1000s of dollars for tickets and plane fare just to be able to use pit toilets and porta potties. Although last time I was at Lambeau the bathrooms weren't exactly posh. Wait, that might have been the time before. Have they gotten rid of the troughs?

 

[Pkrjones]

Have they gotten rid of the troughs?

The steel troughs are at Soldier Field (embarrassed that I know this), not Lambeau unless things have regressed in last 4 years.