Week 10: Miami Here - Run The Table Must Start Now

[Snoops]

This made me laugh out loud. Then sigh and frown.

You know it’s gonna happen to lol

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

I think whichever team scores more points has a pretty good shot at winning this one.

Coach Gruden is that you?

 

[Mondio]

Coach Gruden is that you?

That's John Madden all the way

 

[ARPackFan]

No "Run the Table" this year. I think the second half is going to be 4 wins/4 losses for a final record of 7-8-1

Miami -W
@Seattle - L
@Minnesota - L
Arizona- W
Atlanta - L
@Chicago - L
@New York Jets - W
Detroit - W

 

[Snoops]

No "Run the Table" this year. I think the second half is going to be 4 wins/4 losses for a final record of 7-8-1

Miami -W
@Seattle - L
@Minnesota - L
Arizona- W
Atlanta - L
@Chicago - L
@New York Jets - W
Detroit - W

U are spot on my friend I believe that’s exactly what’s gonna happen tbh unless they pull something out of there *** but highly unlikely

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

U are spot on my friend I believe that’s exactly what’s gonna happen tbh unless they pull something out of there *** but highly unlikely

I agree almost 100%. I still think we split with Chicago and Minn. I think we will win one of those games.

 

[PackAttack12]

Title, you have your opinion and I respect that, but that opinion doesn't give you the right to call people out, or even in some cases stupid because they don't agree with you on it. Pack attack and I have often disagreed with each other about Aaron Rodgers, but he is entitled to his opinion and I am entitled to mine. Calling people stupid etc is not right. We will always be Packer fans long after his (Rodgers ) career is over.

This.

buggy and I have had some battles in the past on this subject. I vehemently disagree with buggy on the big picture point on Rodgers, but I certainly respect his opinion and I do at least understand where he is coming from. To buggy's point, and several others, Rodgers can be thin skinned. He can be a diva. He can at times be a finger pointer. He can at times deflect a little blame. So I understand where they are coming from.

The difference with me, though? I don't care. And I've mentioned on many occasions why I don't care.

buggy and others have every right to voice their opinion and to his point, it most certainly doesn't make them less of a fan than the rest of us just because they choose to feel a certain away, or express their opinions in a different way.

I mean, buggy is still wrong like the day is long. But he has a right to his opinion.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

This.

buggy and I have had some battles in the past on this subject. I vehemently disagree with buggy on the big picture point on Rodgers, but I certainly respect his opinion and I do at least understand where he is coming from. To buggy's point, and several others, Rodgers can be thin skinned. He can be a diva. He can at times be a finger pointer. He can at times deflect a little blame. So I understand where they are coming from.

The difference with me, though? I don't care. And I've mentioned on many occasions why I don't care.

buggy and others have every right to voice their opinion and to his point, it most certainly doesn't make them less of a fan than the rest of us just because they choose to feel a certain away, or express their opinions in a different way.

I mean, buggy is still wrong like the day is long. But he has a right to his opinion.

Well put.

 

[Mondio]

and if the day were longer, he'd be wronger

 

[GB2016]

I think we can win out. D is playing better every week. Now we just have to get AR to take the short quick passes over the middle instead of going for the deep TD stuff. No need to go for the bombs on 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 4 early. Yes, maybe with a nice lead that might be a good strategy to put the game away but not very good early or in tight games. Lets just get the lead!

 

[Mondio]

I think we can win out. D is playing better every week. Now we just have to get AR to take the short quick passes over the middle instead of going for the deep TD stuff. No need to go for the bombs on 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 4 early. Yes, maybe with a nice lead that might be a good strategy to put the game away but not very good early or in tight games. Lets just get the lead!

Think of all the 4th down conversions this defense gave up last year. Did they stop a single one? No contrast that with how many times they've turned good offenses away from the 1 or inside already this year? Regardless of stats, standings, etc. This defense is NOT what it was. It has made some pretty big strides. It's still a work in progress, it's expected with a new coach and a half of season under their belt. Lots of youth and that youth is learning and playing hard.

offense just needs to find it's groove, but it needs to find it quickly. There is no time to see if it comes around anymore.

 

[rmontro]

No "Run the Table" this year. I think the second half is going to be 4 wins/4 losses for a final record of 7-8-1

That Atlanta game interests me. They've won three in a row over us the last few years, albeit in their home. We still haven't proven we can beat them IMO, meanwhile several other powerhouse teams have sprung up to overtake them. Atlanta has fallen off some now, and we have them at Lambeau, so hopefully this time we can get the win.

I think we can win out. D is playing better every week.

I agree the defense is looking better, but they still have a ways to go. I believe they're 16th in yards per game, and 21st in points per game.
Everyone's always said if we can just get a top 10 defense, we could win the Super Bowl, but lately we've been finding creative ways to lose.

 

[swhitset]

i'm definitely more worried about the knee than the collar bone. The collar bone is fine. it's closer to the shoulder, but it has less to do with his throwing motion at this point by a long shot.

Maybe.... even probably... but it is true that the knee injury certainly obfuscates matters. It would certainly be nice to have more time to evaluate how he recovered from the collarbone before the knee injury.

 

[OldSchool101]

It ain’t easy playing on the road. Just ask cry baby Cam

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

It ain’t easy playing on the road. Just ask cry baby Cam

Well, this game isn't on the road thank god. I just hope one of our remaining chances to win on the road comes in Minny.

 

[sschind]

since the collar bone was the subject of several posts i took his post as continuing that theme.

I understand why you would think that, that is why I was trying to get clarification.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I do wish Rodgers would perhaps rely less on the hard count and tell his center to do more quick snaps.

Go more no huddle, more quick snaps, and you got two things at play

1. Opposing defenses getting caught with 12 men on the field

2. Worn out by the tempo going too fast

 

[Ceodore]

1. You think Aaron Rodgers cares more about his interception rate than winning games? This is just a plain stupid statement. If that was the case, he would have been HAPPY when Montgomery fumbled, since it ensured he would not throw a pick the rest of the game. This statement from you indicates to me you are not thinking clearly in regards to Aaron for some reason or another.

2. Which is it exactly? He is more concerned with NOT throwing interceptions, yet now you are also claiming he wants "flashy" plays? "Flashy" plays by nature involve greater risk. Checkdowns are high-percentage plays that would only HELP his TD-interception ratio. Your first two points contradict themselves!

3. Many former teammates have spoken highly of Aaron and his leadership. I have not seen any action on the sidelines that speaks to a lack of leadership. I would love some examples of what you are talking about. I have seen Tom Brady attacking/yelling at teammates on the sidelines before. I have never seen Aaron do anything close to this.

4. Aaron makes many comments about different topics. It seems to be a misconception that he does not take blame for when he plays poorly. I have heard Aaron say many times that he needs to play better in the past. Last season against the Panthers comes to mind...

Aaron Rodgers is far from the prima donna people make him out to be.

I don't see how you DONT see it. He insists on trying to make the harder pass in stead of the safer one. He goes away from the run as soon as it gets rolling OR at the first instance it gets stuffed. And, while to be fair he's done a better job of this lately, prior to this he would take very little of the blame in his pressers when he didn't play well. Jennings, Finley and, I believe, America's Favorite Packer, Donald Driver have all been critical of AR at times. I don't think it's in your face in a diva WR type of way, but it's definitely there.

 

[Title Town USA]

Jennings, Finley and, I believe, America's Favorite Packer, Donald Driver have all been critical of AR at times. I don't think it's in your face in a diva WR type of way, but it's definitely there.

The great ones always have people critical of them. It's just the nature of the business. This applies to all areas of life. You can't please everyone, and certain people will be jealous of your success and attention, and thus try to bring you down with lies and fake news.

 

[PackAttack12]

I don't see how you DONT see it. He insists on trying to make the harder pass in stead of the safer one. He goes away from the run as soon as it gets rolling OR at the first instance it gets stuffed. And, while to be fair he's done a better job of this lately, prior to this he would take very little of the blame in his pressers when he didn't play well. Jennings, Finley and, I believe, America's Favorite Packer, Donald Driver have all been critical of AR at times. I don't think it's in your face in a diva WR type of way, but it's definitely there.

There's been a limited number of times that Rodgers has taken zero blame. More times than not, he mentions areas of the game where guys didn't make enough plays, but he also says he needs to play better as well. Like this past Sunday, he mentioned Jones' fumble, he mentioned miscommunications with receivers, but he also said that he missed some throws and needs to play better.

Very rarely does he completely absolve himself from all blame. I have no issue with Rodgers holding teammates and coaches accountable.

 

[Do7]

I don't see how you DONT see it. He insists on trying to make the harder pass in stead of the safer one. He goes away from the run as soon as it gets rolling OR at the first instance it gets stuffed. And, while to be fair he's done a better job of this lately, prior to this he would take very little of the blame in his pressers when he didn't play well. Jennings, Finley and, I believe, America's Favorite Packer, Donald Driver have all been critical of AR at times. I don't think it's in your face in a diva WR type of way, but it's definitely there.

You mean the same Greg Jennings who talked all that stuff regarding Rodgers the following season after joining Minnesota, (Rodgers chose not to say anything btw) and got owned and was seen trying to reconcile things after the game? I remember this forum having a field day after The Packers spanked the Vikings that day. But basically Jennings career was never the same after leaving Green Bay. Interesting you'd put stock into what he says considering how he left.

Then you have Jermichael "Stonehands" Finely. What I find funny is that some of you call Rodgers a prima donna but forget about the headcase Finley could be. Let's not forget about all the dropped passes he had during his time here. When he was finally able to live up to his potential, he got injured and was never seen again. Again another interesting person to stock from regarding Rodgers.

Then there's Donald Driver. Ok let's get one thing straight. Driver was NOT critical of Rodgers, all Driver said was that he held people accountable, and frankly that's what you want from your leaders. Rodgers demands excellence from his teammates as it is demanded from him. When people question Rodgers leadership, I roll my eyes because Rodgers leads by example. Now is he the best leader? That's not for me to say really, but like any leader he holds people accountable including himself. So let's not twist what Driver actually said. He wasn't critical of Rodgers in my estimation.

What I find weird is people always using these 3 examples in regards to teammates bad mouthing him to which I ask what have those players done after leaving Rodgers? Again I don't include Driver in this.

I don't recall Charles Woodson, Tj Lang, James Jones, Josh Sitton, AJ Hawk, (Looking at your Cowherd) or hell Jordy Nelson having anything negative to say regarding Rodgers after leaving Green Bay, but rather the opposite. If you're going to be critical of a QB fine. But be fair, and look at the people that have spoke positive about Rodgers rather than focus on the bad.

Also hey everyone! Nice to meet you all!

 

[Title Town USA]

There's been a limited number of times that Rodgers has taken zero blame. More times than not, he mentions areas of the game where guys didn't make enough plays, but he also says he needs to play better as well. Like this past Sunday, he mentioned Jones' fumble, he mentioned miscommunications with receivers, but he also said that he missed some throws and needs to play better.

Very rarely does he completely absolve himself from all blame. I have no issue with Rodgers holding teammates and coaches accountable.

Thank you for pointing this out. People continue to perpetuate this lie that Aaron Rodgers does not take any blame for losses. It simply is untrue. Check the video evidence, I don't know what else to say.

 

[PackAttack12]

You mean the same Greg Jennings who talked all that stuff regarding Rodgers the following season after joining Minnesota, (Rodgers chose not to say anything btw) and got owned and was seen trying to reconcile things after the game? I remember this forum having a field day after The Packers spanked the Vikings that day. But basically Jennings career was never the same after leaving Green Bay. Interesting you'd put stock into what he says considering how he left.

Then you have Jermichael "Stonehands" Finely. What I find funny is that some of you call Rodgers a prima donna but forget about the headcase Finley could be. Let's not forget about all the dropped passes he had during his time here. When he was finally able to live up to his potential, he got injured and was never seen again. Again another interesting person to stock from regarding Rodgers.

Then there's Donald Driver. Ok let's get one thing straight. Driver was NOT critical of Rodgers, all Driver said was that he held people accountable, and frankly that's what you want from your leaders. Rodgers demands excellence from his teammates as it is demanded from him. When people question Rodgers leadership, I roll my eyes because Rodgers leads by example. Now is he the best leader? That's not for me to say really, but like any leader he holds people accountable including himself. So let's not twist what Driver actually said. He wasn't critical of Rodgers in my estimation.

What I find weird is people always using these 3 examples in regards to teammates bad mouthing him to which I ask what have those players done after leaving Rodgers? Again I don't include Driver in this.

I don't recall Charles Woodson, Tj Lang, James Jones, Josh Sitton, AJ Hawk, (Looking at your Cowherd) or hell Jordy Nelson having anything negative to say regarding Rodgers after leaving Green Bay, but rather the opposite. If you're going to be critical of a QB fine. But be fair, and look at the people that have spoke positive about Rodgers rather than focus on the bad.

Also hey everyone! Nice to meet you all!

As "first posts" go, this was a good one. Welcome aboard the crazy train!

Some really good thoughts in your post. It's always interesting how none of these guys have anything bad to say about Rodgers while he's throwing them pinpoint passes and getting them large contract extensions, but they leave Green Bay and all of a sudden they wanna yap their trap.

Rodgers isn't one to say what's "politically correct" and he's not one to watch what he says in order to spare someone else's feelings. The NFL is a professional environment made up of a bunch of grown men. Either do your job and handle a little criticism when you under perform or go sell cars. Plain and simple. I have no problem with it.

 

[PackAttack12]

Thank you for pointing this out. People continue to perpetuate this lie that Aaron Rodgers does not take any blame for losses. It simply is untrue. Check the video evidence, I don't know what else to say.

Anyone that consistently listens to Rodgers' pressers will know that the vast majority of the time, he simply holds guys accountable, including himself. Now some say they don't want to listen to his pressers...okay that's fine. But at least do your homework and stop believing what you want to believe. Either that, or stop listening to the Skip Bayless' and the Colin Cowherd's of the world who's job is to say things for shock value and generate interest in their show.

Aaron Rodgers isn't the greatest leader in sports or anything like that, but I think his style is effective. And the bottom line for me? His style is genuine. That's enough for me.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Anyone that consistently listens to Rodgers' pressers will know that the vast majority of the time, he simply holds guys accountable, including himself. Now some say they don't want to listen to his pressers...okay that's fine. But at least do your homework and stop believing what you want to believe. Either that, or stop listening to the Skip Bayless' and the Colin Cowherd's of the world who's job is to say things for shock value and generate interest in their show.

Aaron Rodgers isn't the greatest leader in sports or anything like that, but I think his style is effective. And the bottom line for me? His style is genuine. That's enough for me.

If there are a few things I can point to some fans that I take issue with, they're the following:

1. They listen to too many talking heads

2. They watch too much NBA and don't know it's scripted like the WWE

3. They put Rodgers in a box