Week 10: Miami Here - Run The Table Must Start Now

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I think people are too obsessed with MM's future they're forgetting how football works. Beyond that, nobody including him is going anywhere until this season is over, and that'll be determined by the powers that be.

Until then, we got an uphill climb sure but still opportunities to get this thing going. Let's see if we can cut down on Rodgers sacks and generate a few big plays here.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Until then, we got an uphill climb sure but still opportunities to get this thing going. Let's see if we can cut down on Rodgers sacks and generate a few big plays here.

I'm In,

 

[PackerFanLV]

I’ll be happy if we win but I wouldn’t think it would be beneath the pack to lose. My heart has hurt so bad this year. We have escaped with wins that could easily have been losses and we have loss game that we could have won. We are mediocre and it’s starting to kick in. But it’s still and always will be #GoPackGo.

 

[Title Town USA]

Rodgers is just simply a frustrated QB, and given a mix of certain events that have been happening including being robbed of a chance to drive the team down and get a game winning score in LA, I for one have trouble blaming him. Just because you visibly display your frustration does not make you a prima Donna.

Exactly. Which is why I asked "gbgary" why he called Aaron a "prima donna". He has yet to provide evidence. Frustration is a normal emotion shown by all great players from time to time. If he thinks this is being a "prima donna," he is sadly mistaken.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

You call yourself a fan? Also, I'd love to hear how Aaron Rodgers is a "prima donna".

So because somebody honestly doesn't think the sun rises and falls on Aaron Rodgers they're not a true fan ? Quite a few of the missed catches are a result of overthrown or underthrown pass attempts by our QB, and yes, he does sometimes glare at receivers as if it's their fault. You have your opinions and others are entitled to theirs. It doesn't mean they are any less fans than you are.

 

[Title Town USA]

So because somebody honestly doesn't think the sun rises and falls on Aaron Rodgers they're not a true fan ? Quite a few of the missed catches are a result of overthrown or underthrown pass attempts by our QB, and yes, he does sometimes glare at receivers as if it's their fault. You have your opinions and others are entitled to theirs. It doesn't mean they are any less fans than you are.

That is pretty weak evidence of Aaron Rodgers being a "prima donna." You're certainly entered to your own opinion. That doesn't mean it's well-supported by facts though.

 

[Poppa San]

What happen Week two lol

Uh

two possibilities. They might win or they might lose.

The third option

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

That is pretty weak evidence of Aaron Rodgers being a "prima donna." You're certainly entered to your own opinion. That doesn't mean it's well-supported by facts though.

I see what I see. Often. THAT doesn't make me any less of a Packer fan than you.

 

[elcid]

Oh please, Arod is such a prima donna. Its probably the only reason why I see Brady as a better QB than Rodgers is, keeping in mind that a QB also should keep the offense motivated and focussed. Aaron often deflects blame of a broken play on his receivers, whereas occasionally he deserves (some of) it himself. He never seems critical of his own play, whereas when you see Brady being mad you clearly see he his also frustrated with himself. I don't think I can even recall Brees being upset with any of his offensive teammates, always trying to keep spirits up. Sometimes I feel like Aaron has been listening so much to Stephen A. Smith about what a god he is, he actually started to believe it..

 

[Mavster]

Oh please. Brady has multiple instances of screaming at people on national tv. And if I remember correctly Brady at one point chased a ref post game to scream at him didn't he?

He must be so mad at himself though

 

[Title Town USA]

I see what I see. Often. THAT doesn't make me any less of a Packer fan than you.

I'll agree to disagree.

 

[Title Town USA]

Oh please. Brady has multiple instances of screaming at people on national tv. And if I remember correctly Brady at one point chased a ref post game to scream at him didn't he?

He must be so mad at himself though

Exactly. Brady has lit up teammates on the sidelines. He must be taking responsibility for a bad pass. LOL

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I'll agree to disagree.

Title, you have your opinion and I respect that, but that opinion doesn't give you the right to call people out, or even in some cases stupid because they don't agree with you on it. Pack attack and I have often disagreed with each other about Aaron Rodgers, but he is entitled to his opinion and I am entitled to mine. Calling people stupid etc is not right. We will always be Packer fans long after his (Rodgers ) career is over.

 

[Heyjoe4]

No expectations with this team anymore. Just gonna watch and see what happens.

Probably the best way to keep blood pressure normal. Best to focus on the next opponent. Who knows what will happen after that? And given how poorly they tend to play against weak opponents (niners, Lions), best not to take the Dolphins for granted.

 

[Title Town USA]

Title, you have your opinion and I respect that, but that opinion doesn't give you the right to call people out, or even in some cases stupid because they don't agree with you on it. Pack attack and I have often disagreed with each other about Aaron Rodgers, but he is entitled to his opinion and I am entitled to mine. Calling people stupid etc is not right. We will always be Packer fans long after his (Rodgers ) career is over.

I didn’t call anybody “stupid” in this thread. I’m not sure what you are talking about.

 

[Ogsponge]

Again, I'd love to hear how Aaron Rodgers is a "prima donna."

I’ll bite...

1. He is more concerned with his interception rate than winning games.

2. He is more concerned with “flashy” plays than consistently moving the ball.

3. Many former teammates have questioned his leadership, where there is smoke there is fire and his actions on the sidelines seem to support this from what I see

4. He has made not even thinly veiled comments about his coach, this is a sure sign of a player that is thinking he is above the organization.

Look Rodgers is awesome, one of the best but if you don’t think he has become a bit of prima Donna then your delusional.

 

[shockerx]

It looks to me Rodgers is suffering from collarbone-phobia, i think he fears another big hit and playing slightly scared. if you notice he is throwing much more with his weight back, and not stepping into throws. His completion percentage is way down this year, he doesnt seem to look at medium targets over the middle...like slants...it makes me wonder too if he worries about the tipped balls and interception stats to a fault. I believe if they wound just use the RB out in the flat, and brought back the slant..with YAC of course, things would start to fix themselves.

 

[Mondio]

It looks to me Rodgers is suffering from collarbone-phobia, i think he fears another big hit and playing slightly scared. if you notice he is throwing much more with his weight back, and not stepping into throws. His completion percentage is way down this year, he doesnt seem to look at medium targets over the middle...like slants...it makes me wonder too if he worries about the tipped balls and interception stats to a fault. I believe if they wound just use the RB out in the flat, and brought back the slant..with YAC of course, things would start to fix themselves.

I don't think you're completely off here. Though he has worked on throwing from an "unstable" foot position for a couple years now. This year though he seems to be floating rather than driving passes. and he does not like the middle of the field this year. seems that way anyway.

 

[shockerx]

saw a clip today, Belichick was telling his D, rodgers was floating his passes...I think the MVS ball was thrown off the back foot...seems with alittle more into it...its a TD.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

It looks to me Rodgers is suffering from collarbone-phobia, i think he fears another big hit and playing slightly scared. if you notice he is throwing much more with his weight back, and not stepping into throws. His completion percentage is way down this year, he doesnt seem to look at medium targets over the middle...like slants...it makes me wonder too if he worries about the tipped balls and interception stats to a fault. I believe if they wound just use the RB out in the flat, and brought back the slant..with YAC of course, things would start to fix themselves.

Completely agree! I rewatched the entire 2011 divisional playoff game (aka the greatest game ever played by a QB) and the difference is so apparent. This dude would step into throws and throw frozen ropes on a line with such confidence and perfect mechanics. Just absolute lasers. And the confidence? Unmatched. Borderline cocky. I see a completely different guy now. He's apathetic, timid, flinging balls sidearm off his back foot. Never stepping into throws to rear back and fire. It seems like he's simply coasting off talent now. Where is the fire???

 

[shockerx]

whats really strange about it all, is they see tons of tape. they all must know its a big part of the problem...maybe it all goes unspoken, maybe the coaching staff cant confront Rodgers with his pitfalls.....Crap that takes us back to prima donna junk!

 

[Title Town USA]

I’ll bite...

1. He is more concerned with his interception rate than winning games.

2. He is more concerned with “flashy” plays than consistently moving the ball.

3. Many former teammates have questioned his leadership, where there is smoke there is fire and his actions on the sidelines seem to support this from what I see

4. He has made not even thinly veiled comments about his coach, this is a sure sign of a player that is thinking he is above the organization.

Look Rodgers is awesome, one of the best but if you don’t think he has become a bit of prima Donna then your delusional.

1. You think Aaron Rodgers cares more about his interception rate than winning games? This is just a plain stupid statement. If that was the case, he would have been HAPPY when Montgomery fumbled, since it ensured he would not throw a pick the rest of the game. This statement from you indicates to me you are not thinking clearly in regards to Aaron for some reason or another.

2. Which is it exactly? He is more concerned with NOT throwing interceptions, yet now you are also claiming he wants "flashy" plays? "Flashy" plays by nature involve greater risk. Checkdowns are high-percentage plays that would only HELP his TD-interception ratio. Your first two points contradict themselves!

3. Many former teammates have spoken highly of Aaron and his leadership. I have not seen any action on the sidelines that speaks to a lack of leadership. I would love some examples of what you are talking about. I have seen Tom Brady attacking/yelling at teammates on the sidelines before. I have never seen Aaron do anything close to this.

4. Aaron makes many comments about different topics. It seems to be a misconception that he does not take blame for when he plays poorly. I have heard Aaron say many times that he needs to play better in the past. Last season against the Panthers comes to mind...

Aaron Rodgers is far from the prima donna people make him out to be.

 

[rmontro]

Rodgers is just simply a frustrated QB, and given a mix of certain events that have been happening including being robbed of a chance to drive the team down and get a game winning score in LA, I for one have trouble blaming him. Just because you visibly display your frustration does not make you a prima Donna.

I don't think Rodgers is a prima Donna. He may be by the time his career is over. Favre acted like a diva toward the end there, but I never held it against him. These superstar players are pampered athletes to the extreme, it's bound to affect them sooner or later on some level.

Regarding Rodgers' frustrations, I see the national sports media has been taking note of his increasing displays of frustration on the field or on the sidelines. I mean he's not in Jay Cutler area yet, but his body language has not been positive on more than one occasion. You can see the team's shortcomings are starting to get to him, and has probably also been disappointed in his own play here and there.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I didn’t call anybody “stupid” in this thread. I’m not sure what you are talking about.

I'm not getting into it with you on here. I never said you called anybody STUPID, but stop implying people are not real fans because they don't share your views. Feel free to PM if you need anymore info.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Their defense has been atrocious this season and Cameron Wake is not playing.

While the Dolphins defense hasn't been great by any means they have allowed less points per game than the Packers. As far as I know Wake will be playing on Sunday.

At this point I wish the Packers wouldn't have given Rodgers the team check book,
and used that $$$$ to sign quality players.
Sooner or later we have to look for another qb, and I wonder if the packers jump to quickly.

It was definitely the right decision to sign Rodgers to an extension. It will most likely take another offseason to surround him with enough talent though.

It looks to me Rodgers is suffering from collarbone-phobia, i think he fears another big hit and playing slightly scared. if you notice he is throwing much more with his weight back, and not stepping into throws.

I guess Rodgers knee injury is the main reason he doesn't step into throws like in past seasons.

and he does not like the middle of the field this year. seems that way anyway.

That's an interesting observation. Rodgers has avoided throwing to the middle of the field more often this year (31.2%) compared to his last full season in 2016 (41.6%) for example.