Week 10: Miami Here - Run The Table Must Start Now

[Mondio]

I think his injury has affected him more than we might want to admit. He doesn’t trust himself as much right now. His accuracy has been off. It’s probably not that he wants to throw differently, his body forced him too. He avoids middle stuff because it’s more dangerous. He’s floating his passes and those get tipped and picked in the middle. He’s off and it probably has nothing to do with him being a prima Donna or scheme or Danica, or not eating cheese.

 

[Poppa San]

and he does not like the middle of the field this year.

He goes in streaks avoiding the middle of the field. Scroll through these graphs for the past 3 seasons. There were games in 2016 with 1-2 passes between or near the hash

 

[Title Town USA]

I'm not getting into it with you on here. I never said you called anybody STUPID, but stop implying people are not real fans because they don't share your views. Feel free to PM if you need anymore info.

I'm alright - thanks for the offer. I'd prefer to focus on talking about football topics here, not getting caught up in the language used while doing so.

 

[gbgary]

I think his injury has affected him more than we might want to admit. He doesn’t trust himself as much right now. His accuracy has been off. It’s probably not that he wants to throw differently, his body forced him too. He avoids middle stuff because it’s more dangerous. He’s floating his passes and those get tipped and picked in the middle. He’s off and it probably has nothing to do with him being a prima Donna or scheme or Danica, or not eating cheese.

that's why i said, back in the summer, that they should wait to see how he is before extending him. there are several qb's out performing Rodgers right now in 3rd down conversion percentage, completion percentage, and more, and none of them are blaming their teammates or undermining their coach despite their coaches' shortcomings or play-calling.

 

[rmontro]

saw a clip today, Belichick was telling his D, rodgers was floating his passes...I think the MVS ball was thrown off the back foot...seems with alittle more into it...its a TD.

I saw that, interesting clip. Belichick sure is more energetic and engaged when talking to his players on the sideline during the game, than he is doing press conferences!
It should be pointed out that despite Belichick's remarks, Rodgers never did throw an interception (he said he had tried to throw them the ball twice already). But that's not to say the pass rush wasn't effective.

 

[sschind]

that's why i said, back in the summer, that they should wait to see how he is before extending him. there are several qb's out performing Rodgers right now in 3rd down conversion percentage, completion percentage, and more, and none of them are blaming their teammates or undermining their coach despite their coaches' shortcomings or play-calling.

Is that the injury he is talking about? I think its the knee injury more than worry about the collarbone but i haven't watched much so I can't say.

 

[Mondio]

i'm definitely more worried about the knee than the collar bone. The collar bone is fine. it's closer to the shoulder, but it has less to do with his throwing motion at this point by a long shot.

 

[gbgary]

Is that the injury he is talking about? I think its the knee injury more than worry about the collarbone but i haven't watched much so I can't say.

since the collar bone was the subject of several posts i took his post as continuing that theme.

 

[PackerDNA]

This team can't run the table for four quarters, much less eight games. One game one half one quarter one play.

 

[OldSchool101]

I’ll just say it. Next to the 4 game losing streak this is possibly the worst stretch of games I’ve seen us play in recent history.
Don’t misunderstand me. We have a lot of potential and I am as passionate a fan this week as any game because we’re only as good as our current performance. I just think we need time to mature and we are running low on petro in 2018. Odds are we go 5-3 in the back 8 and unfortunately that doesn’t cut the mustard.
It’s unlikely we make the playoffs unless we have an epiphany. I don’t think we’re built this year to do anything but scrap for a wild card. We will know much more about how this team is built in 2 weeks.
I do however think we are on the the rise are 1 more draft and aggressive FA away from a surge (11-5 and another Divisional game) and 2 good FA and drafts from knocking on the door at the NFC Chsmpionship game.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry when 'run the table' and the '2018 Packers' are mentioned in the same sentence.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Saw that our D will go up against Brock Osweiler this weekend instead of Tannehill. This has the makings for us to crush Miami in GB right?.... Right?!

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

It looks to me Rodgers is suffering from collarbone-phobia, i think he fears another big hit and playing slightly scared. if you notice he is throwing much more with his weight back, and not stepping into throws. His completion percentage is way down this year, he doesnt seem to look at medium targets over the middle...like slants...it makes me wonder too if he worries about the tipped balls and interception stats to a fault. I believe if they wound just use the RB out in the flat, and brought back the slant..with YAC of course, things would start to fix themselves.

His OL has also failed to do their job on multiple occasions. I think I'll blame them too.

 

[C-Lee]

Saw that our D will go up against Brock Osweiler this weekend instead of Tannehill. This has the makings for us to crush Miami in GB right?.... Right?!

We won by a touchdown the last time we faced off against him (2016 Texans game)

 

[shockerx]

His OL has also failed to do their job on multiple occasions. I think I'll blame them too.

yes correct, i never said the"blame" goes totally on to Rodgers...i believe he skidish due his previous injuries, and no doubt OL play. During draft season i was toasted here for pushing for OL early...going for the big athletic guys.. cause the dont last past first round. Again this year we need to take best OL player available at 15 or 32 pick. Rodgers should be using flat and other quick scheme passes to help out with OL issues.. holding the ball has cause Rodgers to fumble 6 times and lose 3 of them... i wish those 3 lost fumbles were interceptions over the middle, at least then he taking his shots there ...zero slants...used to be packer bread and butter play.

 

[elcid]

Oh please. Brady has multiple instances of screaming at people on national tv. And if I remember correctly Brady at one point chased a ref post game to scream at him didn't he?

He must be so mad at himself though

Brady indeed gets hella mad. However this guy knows how to channel that into focus and determination, whereas you clearly can see whenever Aaron has already thrown the towel in the ring. This is characterised when he is down by at least two TD's, which results in him sulking like a little boy on the side line and throwing his hands automatically in the air whenever a pass is incomplete. If that is not prima donna behaviour I dont know what is.

 

[aristotle]

Rodgers is hardly the problem. Costly mistakes (penalties) and fumbles have led to this seasons disappointing results. Watching a replay of the Pats game, after the fumble, the Pats scored and the next series for the Packers were awful play calling and poor protection leading to the 4th down sack. AR should have been rolling out and getting the 4 yards by run or short pass. The play calling is terrible late in the game. Where was Graham in the 2nd half? MM has no clue how to use TE's. He needs to look at Mike Holmgren's play book for TE's.
If the Packers lose this weekend against the Dolphins, MM has to go, immediately. This should be a comfortable win, not easy, but comfortable.
Send the troops after Osweiler. He will fail.
Good luck Packers!! Let's make a run.

 

[HardRightEdge]

So because somebody honestly doesn't think the sun rises and falls on Aaron Rodgers they're not a true fan ? Quite a few of the missed catches are a result of overthrown or underthrown pass attempts by our QB, and yes, he does sometimes glare at receivers as if it's their fault. You have your opinions and others are entitled to theirs. It doesn't mean they are any less fans than you are.

I think I'm going to stop referring to myself as a "fan" which I don't do very often anyway. After all, that term is shorthand for "fanatic", a term that suggests unquestioning allegiance. That's not me, nor a number of regular posters here. A better characterization is having a team affinity subject to analysis, kind of like a beat reporter mind set, wanting to maintain objectivity while wanting the team to win. That's not an entirely dispassionate approach, particularly while a game is in progress, but it does suggest a measure of circumspection.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I guess Rodgers knee injury is the main reason he doesn't step into throws like in past seasons.

That's an interesting observation. Rodgers has avoided throwing to the middle of the field more often this year (31.2%) compared to his last full season in 2016 (41.6%) for example.

I found the following pretty interesting which synchs with my eye test:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-starting-nfl-quarterbacks-after-week-9

Rodgers: 4th. ranked from a clean pocket; 23rd. ranked passer rating under pressure @ 58.5.

I don't think what you quoted or the PFF analysis is about "stepping into the throw" per se. Clean pocket, squared up, no problem. That's a throw from a right leg plant, the good knee.

I see two possibilites, perhaps both a partial factor accounting for reduced middle throws:

1) I believe where he's been and remains limited is on the move throwing from non-standard body positions where there's a left leg plant and torque. In the past he's been a top passer out of the pocket where there are more pressure throws than called rollouts. Fewer throws to the middle may be a function of not having the confidence in accuracy to make the cross-body throw off the bad knee. We've seen a high number of throwaways under pressure, which could be a function of not having total confidence in accuracy on a tight throw on the move.

2) Graham may be factor. He draws a crowd in the middle of the field more than than past TEs, with fewer defenders on the perimenter. Further, the short money slants to Adams have been in short supply; that may be a function of another defensive body in the path because of Graham making those throws riskier.

 

[Snoops]

He will prob throw for 350 yards and 4 tds in a nail biter... smh

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

He will prob throw for 350 yards and 4 tds in a nail biter... smh

This made me laugh out loud. Then sigh and frown.

 

[Half Empty]

When is the last time the Pack DIDN'T make a rookie or backup QB look like a HOFer?

 

[PackinMSP]

Against the Bills this yeae

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I read today Rodgers set a new record for throwaways with 32 throwaways this season up to the

New England Patriots lose.
There's many reasons Rodgers said of this and one is his receivers aren't getting open and admitted he just pain missed.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/08/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-explains-spike-in-throwaways/

Ok, so let's award thousands of $$$$$ to a imperfect qb with a lack of supporting cast.​

 

[swhitset]

I read today Rodgers set a new record for throwaways with 32 throwaways this season up to the

New England Patriots lose.
There's many reasons Rodgers said of this and one is his receivers aren't getting open and admitted he just pain missed.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/08/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-explains-spike-in-throwaways/

Ok, so let's award thousands of $$$$$ to a imperfect qb with a lack of supporting cast.​

what?