Week 1: Green Bay at Chicago in Primetime!

[PackAttack12]

He's positioned himself as an "expert", they do it all the time. Those experts on the news? Most of them pay for their spot or have a paid correspondent, they don't deliver news, they deliver commercials.

His expertise is manipulating video, it is, look it up. It's even what he went to school for. Why do I discount him, well on this particular video, it's crap. Give us your breakdown. Ben's is wrong. He found a video of a slow TE open for a 1 yard gain that was defensed fairly well against the first down by a very good and very fast Chicago defense. You see it differently, tell us why? It's Ben's example of holding the ball too long and the rest of us see a offensive line beaten at every position and a rush on rodgers before he can even set his feet. My take is Graham was simply used to move a linebacker over and clear out the middle so Rodgers could get the ball to the receiver in the middle who was running to the sticks and had a chance at a first down.

But the rush from everywhere was on him and Linsely got beaten like a rented mule and rodgers had nowhere to step and throw the ball. For all you and this self proclaimed expert know, Rodgers ran the correct play, but 5 guys along the line failed to do their part. But on a play with zero time and no real legitimate targets for the first down given the circumstances you 2 cling to it as proof Rodgers isn't with the program LOL

Too funny.

You mean you don't like 1 yard routes on 3rd and 6?

 

[Mondio]

You mean you don't like 1 yard routes on 3rd and 6?

Not unless the nearest defender is 15 yards away and running away from the LOS

But I don't think Graham was the target, I think he was the decoy to draw coverage out of the middle of the field, which he kind of did, but then by the time Rodgers turned to see his target, he had someone in his face and nowhere to go.

Best thing about that play, Jamal rejecting our rejected safety I find solace where I can, what can I say.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

this was one twitter post from ben. and your ignorance of the great ben fennell's breakdowns is no big deal. i only stumbled over him a while back myself. he only says it like it is. he's a packers fan too though. Packercentric outlets everywhere use his material, call on his expertise. he's a very good follow on twitter. he's regularly heard on 105.7 the fan in milwaukee, cheesehead tv, etc. etc. etc. (check his resume). he's an informed source. if you choose to discount him ok. who do you trust who's doing intense film breakdown of the Packers? i'll listen to them too.

Mondio pretty much answered this, but where in my post did I talk about Ben's other work? If Lombardi himself had posted that video and analysis, I would have disagreed with him. This post of Ben's IMO was trash, he was trying to bait people into a "Rodgers isn't the same Rodgers debate" with crappy evidence and you ate it right up, but not surprising.

A person can be a good analyst and still get things wrong, in this case, I think Ben is wrong and trying to make something out of nothing by labeling it the way he did and using marginal if not bad evidence to try and support his claim.

 

[gbgary]

He's positioned himself as an "expert",

he doesn't position himself. the people who employ him and use his content do. he has a great reputation with people in the know (players, colleagues, companies).

 

[PackAttack12]

Some make the mistake of taking everything that's said or typed in the media as the gospel. These days, more so than ever, journalists, analysts, columnists, etc. have an agenda. It's our duty as the ones consuming this information to be able to sift through the stuff that has zero substance, and find the factual information.

It's just like those who see a link posted on facebook about a political issue (whether from the left or from the right) and run with it like it's fact, when it's actually either a fake link, or it's a far right person with an agenda to make the far left look bad, and vice versa.

The whole thing about "well he/she said it, so it has to be fact" has become a little exhausting in modern times.

 

[Mondio]

he doesn't position himself. the people who employ him and use his content do. he has a great reputation with people in the know (players, colleagues, companies).

sure he does, he and his employer have told you so. and then they offer us something like this, that couldn't be more easily rejected and disproven by a set of discerning eyes and a modicum (sorry Amish) of football sense as proof. I'm starting to doubt his relevance as any sort of an "expert" other than he was good at manipulating the video to draw your eyes to what he wanted you to see. Great video production skills.

I have serious doubts they hire him for his skills as a football analyst. Much more likely they hire him to manipulate video to draw eyeballs to the screen and increase viewership, you know, do what he's trained in. where did he cut his teeth as a football expert? I can tell you Gute started in LaX, WI as an unpaid student coach. Where did Ben start and when? Far as I can tell it was about the time his video skills were noted and then he has bio's everywhere proclaiming his expertise.

What about his analysis of the play leads you to believe that is the correct interpretation of the play? I've give you mine, what's yours? do you have a thought? I'm pretty sure you didn't miss the question, but is a 1 yard pass on 3rd and 6 to a slow TE with fast defenders in great position to defend the line to gain a smart play? Do you even think that was where the ball was supposed to go?

 

[gbgary]

where in my post did I talk about Ben's other work?

thought i was still speaking to mondio. my bad.

What about his analysis of the play leads you to believe that is the correct interpretation of the play? I've give you mine, what's yours? do you have a thought? I'm pretty sure you didn't miss the question, but is a 1 yard pass on 3rd and 6 to a slow TE with fast defenders in great position to defend the line to gain a smart play? Do you even think that was where the ball was supposed to go?

there's really no other way to interpret that. since rodgers immediately looked at grahan he must have been his first option. rodgers knew a blitz was coming and it had to be quick. should have thrown it right away and given him a chance to break a tackle. he never looked to the right where the bears had blown a coverage. he took a sack instead. he shouldn't take sacks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

thought i was still speaking to mondio. my bad.



there's really no other way to interpret that. since rodgers immediately looked at grahan he must have been his first option. rodgers knew a blitz was coming and it had to be quick. should have thrown it right away and given him a chance to break a tackle. he never looked to the right where the bears had blown a coverage. he took a sack instead. he shouldn't take sacks.

Again though, that is hindsight analysis, also using vision that Rodgers doesn't have.

I get it and there are a ton of plays like this throughout the season that the narrative can be spun to make it look like more than it was. Plain and simple, Rodgers first read (Graham), wasn't a great option to try and pick up a first down, since the safety, Prince A., did not bite and follow Adams, who was the second read and well covered. Option 3 (MVS) was pretty much unavailable, since by the time Rodgers swung around to see him, the OL had already collapsed and Rodgers was sacked.

I watched Butler and Silverstein dissect this exact same play for 9 1/2 fricking minutes. Their conclusion, which really wasn't that clear, but it seemed they both agreed that Graham would have been the best option based on the final outcome of the play. Which I really have to laugh at, because this is basically saying "always throw to your first option, even if it might not be your best option, because if you progress to your next options and fail, you have failed and are taking too much time. Give me a fricking break.

What needed to happen for that play to be successful was either the Bears make a defensive mistake, which they didn't or Graham takes his route a bit deeper to the chains or the OL had to block better. Had Rodgers taken what appears to be his only viable option, the 1 yard pass to Graham, we probably aren't talking about this play today, except someone would be saying "Why did Rodgers throw a pass to Graham for 3 yards, they needed 6!"

 

[Mondio]

thought i was still speaking to mondio. my bad.



there's really no other way to interpret that. since rodgers immediately looked at grahan he must have been his first option. rodgers knew a blitz was coming and it had to be quick. should have thrown it right away and given him a chance to break a tackle. he never looked to the right where the bears had blown a coverage. he took a sack instead. he shouldn't take sacks.

actually there is, it's called clearing the middle of the field and getting the linebacker to leave a position in the middle to shade or chase where he thinks the play is going and leave an opening to throw it to someone who is the first receiving option which was the guy in the middle with a chance for the 1st down. Happens all the time. Maybe you've heard the term, looking off the defense?

He took the sack? Again, what was the time from snap till pressure? LOL

 

[gbgary]

What needed to happen for that play to be successful was either the Bears make a defensive mistake, which they didn't

but they did...on the right...but he didn't look right. had he thrown it to graham it may very well have been short of the first down but at least rodgers wouldn't have been tackled. not every play is a td or first down. considering they sent six guys at rodgers, had it failed, i think people would have understood. graham presumably ran the route the way the play was designed. qb's don't like guys being in the wrong place...especially when they're under duress. rodgers only had a bit over two seconds. this particular play was doomed, the bears called the right D, but he did have time to get rid of it and not take a sack and possibly get hurt. he had options. that was ben's point. what if he'd looked right...he'd have seen an uncovered wr. what if the O-line had kept him clean a second longer? lot's of what-if's.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

lot's of what-if's.

I think that is the whole point. Those "what if's" that people use to criticize the outcome of a play that has already occurred in real time, that they are looking at frame by frame and from all angles. There are a lot of what ifs to every play, some make the play work, some make the outcome even worse. Personally, I don't fault Rodgers at all for that play not working. I credit a solid performance by the Bear defense and a crappy performance by the Packer OL. "What if"....he throws that ball a bit high to Graham and its tipped to Prince A, who basically runs it up the sideline for 6? Now we are talking about Rogers throwing a bad pass, on a play that would probably net 4 yards and how it cost the Packers the game.

To expect Rodgers to have the vision and frame by frame vision at that, that some people use film for, in order to be critical of the outcome of a play doesn't work for me, especially in this example. Pick a play where it was very obvious that a mistake was made and should have been seen on the field and real time.

 

[Mondio]

why would he look right? The blitz came from his left, many benefits of looking that way. Ben, nor you, nor I know the call or what was "supposed" to happen. But recognizing the blitz and knowing you have one of the absolute best blitz pick up artists in the league protecting you, looking left does a couple things.

It slows down the blitzer a tad at the end looking for a quick pass to jump and swat, it shades the linebacker over and makes room for the receiver in the middle.

Not every blitz is a reason to unload a 1 yard pass when you need 6, sometimes you have the right protections called and expect someone to do their job, in this case, Williams was the only one that did. everyone else could have done as **** poor of a job as long as linsley didn't get walked back and tossed aside and we'd maybe be talking about a first down play, though what he terms a "bust" on the right side? Hardly. defenders did give him a cushion and were right at the sticks, ready to come up and attack as soon as the ball was thrown. He wasn't left open by accident underneath and short of the line to gain. Further reason to question his "expertise" in dissecting a football play

 

[sschind]

I'm just a fan, but my one big criticism of the Packers offense over the years is WR's running routes short of the first down chains on 3rd down. If you are going to run a route near the chains, cross the damn first down line before the ball gets there. I understand the principle of YAC, but often times, the guys catching the ball that close to the LOS are pretty well covered and there are no YAC. I have no problem with RB screens in that situation, but you better have a shifty back and a good OL pulling out ahead of him. In that play, Graham was out there as the only Packer, one yard off the LOS and pretty well covered by the Bears.

We haven't been able to get away with that since Sterling Sharpe retired. I hated seeing it too but he seemed to have a knack for making it turn out just fine.

Moral support?

Didn't know Mondio had morals. maybe that's why he needs the support.

To say I don't care for the 3-man rush is putting it mildly. It's usually accompanied by a soft zone begging for a seam throw. They did run it once where the guys actually got pressure and Trubisky threw to the sidelines for a short gain, so there's that.

No kidding. It would be different if the rest of the defense had the receivers blanketed but all it seems to accomplish is giving the QB plenty of time to find a guy sneaking in somewhere for an easy catch.

He's positioned himself as an "expert", they do it all the time. Those experts on the news? Most of them pay for their spot or have a paid correspondent, they don't deliver news, they deliver commercials.

His expertise is manipulating video, it is, look it up. It's even what he went to school for. Why do I discount him, well on this particular video, it's crap. Give us your breakdown. Ben's is wrong. He found a video of a slow TE open for a 1 yard gain that was defensed fairly well against the first down by a very good and very fast Chicago defense. You see it differently, tell us why? It's Ben's example of holding the ball too long and the rest of us see a offensive line beaten at every position and a rush on rodgers before he can even set his feet. My take is Graham was simply used to move a linebacker over and clear out the middle so Rodgers could get the ball to the receiver in the middle who was running to the sticks and had a chance at a first down.

But the rush from everywhere was on him and Linsely got beaten like a rented mule and rodgers had nowhere to step and throw the ball. For all you and this self proclaimed expert know, Rodgers ran the correct play, but 5 guys along the line failed to do their part. But on a play with zero time and no real legitimate targets for the first down given the circumstances you 2 cling to it as proof Rodgers isn't with the program LOL

Too funny.

When your point is that Rodgers always passes up the open man the rest of your analysis doesn't really matter. The video clearly shows Rodgers not throwing to the open man. Whether or not he SHOULD have thrown to that man is irrelevant to his point and only confuses the issue.

 

[greengold]

sschind, I think all that stuff will be good coaching moments for LaFleur. It will be interesting to see how he gets his team to adjust. The team seems to like him and like playing for him from what I could tell in just one game.

 

[PackAttack12]

Laughable that some twitter warrior claims Rodgers is ignoring receivers based on a frame by frame, slow motion clip, where in reality AR had what could barely be classified as seconds to go through his progressions from option one to option two before he was about to get his head taken off.

And folks like gary take it and run with it. I’m telling you what...these hindsight champions are a piece of work. Always criticizing the end result when it seems to favor their theory.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Didn't know Mondio had morals. maybe that's why he needs the support.

Oh, he just needs an athletic supporter, his morals were shot a long time ago!

 

[Mondio]

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[GleefulGary]

Laughable that some twitter warrior claims Rodgers is ignoring receivers based on a frame by frame, slow motion clip, where in reality AR had what could barely be classified as seconds to go through his progressions from option one to option two before he was about to get his head taken off.

And folks like gary take it and run with it. I’m telling you what...these hindsight champions are a piece of work. Always criticizing the end result when it seems to favor their theory.

I'd like to clarify something.

Fennell did not say Rodgers was ignoring WR's. He said he was too slow recognizing the blitz and getting the ball out, compared to how he was years ago. And he's absolutely right.

Rodgers used to destroy teams who blitzed him. He hasn't, for a while. Is it because of injuries? Old age? New offense? Idk, but he hasn't attacked blitzes like he used to.

 

[GleefulGary]

ben fennell broke down the film and confirmed rodgers ignoring open guys and holding the ball too long resulting in sacks/hits/pressures. smh...he's got to get past his old habits and give the new O a chance.

Maybe you should read what Fennell actually said. You're putting your own agenda into this heavily.

 

[greengold]

I like looking at film, love reviewing games & plays. I also like as much info as I can get with this stuff. Able to make my own decisions on it. Super geek, yeah, but I dig it.

Personally, I think it is clear as day that Aaron sometimes forgoes an easy outlet for a bigger play. As time marches on, maybe LaFleur can get him to realize “live to fight another day,” is not a bad mantra to embrace. He needs to protect himself more. So does our OL. Will see what happens.

GleefulGary, I agree. He needs to get back to what he did years ago to put him over the top. Get his schwerve back on.

 

[Mondio]

Last year he was injured and had 1 guy that had any experience as a pass catcher in this offense. The year before that also injured. This was his first game in a new offense. Let’s see if he can’t read a blitz in week 6 before we break down more film.

 

[greengold]

Last year he was injured and had 1 guy that had any experience as a pass catcher in this offense. The year before that also injured. This was his first game in a new offense. Let’s see if he can’t read a blitz in week 6 before we break down more film.

Great point Monds! Holy S. Last year, and the year before completely sucked. The guy is human.

I’m not insinuating tearing up film on Rodgers to beat on him has merit. Any one of us have seen some of the same struggles he’s suffered over past two seasons. We know them well. His OL missing multiple assignments was not one of them.

I firmly believe in our next game v. MIN Aaron Rodgers will play far better, and so will his OL.

 

[PackAttack12]

Don’t expect this type of nerdiness from me on a consistent basis, I just so happened to have a little extra time on my hands tonight, along with being irritated to no end that people continue to try and lambast AR for foolishness. But this is my view on the (I counted) 40 total drop backs from Rodgers. Some resulted in sacks, some were penalties, but I’m close to 100% positive I covered them all. If I missed one or two, my apologies.

1: screen pass blown up. Linsley didn’t get to the block. Obviously ARs 1st option was the screen to Jones


2: 1st option was Allison, he slipped and fell. Jones was on the same side of the field, but was met by a linebacker 6 yards from the first down marker (play was 3rd and 10).


3: Graham was brought in motion to the right, clearly ARs 1st option, quick out was thrown at his feet. Bad throw, but not ignoring the playbook.


4: 3rd and 10. Could be argued about who was the first option. Allison and MVS were bunched on the left side of the formation. Allison cuts inside for a quick slant that is immediately met by 2 linebackers, MVS goes up the sideline for a wheel route that was never able to develop, as Khalil Mack beat Turner so fast that he had a clear sprint to Rodgers forcing him to go down


5: first option was to Davante, ball was thrown in traffic and he never had a shot at it. Again...first option.


6: first option to Davante, quick out to him to the right for 5 yards.


7: first option was to Davante for another out/comeback on 3rd and 5. Ball thrown at his feet.


8: first play of drive #4. Fake handoff to Jones, fake end around to Davante. A play that’s clearly designed to take a deep shot. And it was completed to MVS for the biggest play of the game.


9: rollout to the left, first option to Lewis for 8 yards


10: first option to Davante for the first down on 2nd and 2.


11: Rodgers goes through all progressions, realizes no one is open, and throws a jump ball to Jimmy Graham for the TD. there goes the theory that Rodgers doesn’t take chances


12: Rodgers first option comeback route to MVS for 9 yards. (On first play of drive from the 4)


13: first option on an immediate throw to MVS on the outside to secure the first down. So much for screw the playbook right??


14: 3rd and 5....finds Adams after he was covered on the slant, he had time in the pocket, and found him on the reroute to the outside. First down.


15: Rodgers faced immediate pressure, flips it through traffic to the running back (Williams) for a quick 5 yard gain on 1st and 10. He wants to take a sack, remember??


As a side note, this is in the midst of 8 straight completions.


16: this is the faithful play where it is confirmed that Rodgers is just LOOKING FOR THE home run play. Graham immediately leaks out to the left for a one yard out route, Rodgers rightfully looks him off (by design) to turn his attention to the middle of the field where (simultaneously) Robertson-Harris beats Linsley like a rag doll to the inside, AND turner loses a battle with Hicks where, from some reason, he decides to stop blocking him. When you go from read 1, to read 2 and you are immediately met by two pass rushers in your lap, please tell me what you would have done different than what Rodgers did??????


17: it was 2nd and 7, no one ran a route short of the sticks, (except maybe Jones who motioned out wide to ARs left, looks like he MIGHT have ran a 7 yard comebacker) but Rodgers never looked that way, because why would that be read number one? And Rodgers tried a sideline throw to Davante that fell incomplete


18: before Rodgers could get through progression number one, he’s met with up the middle pressure, rolls out to the left to avoid it, and orchestrates a creative shovel pass flip to Jones for a first down. But hey, why even try to escape the pocket, right??


19: First option to graham on an immediate out to him to the right with blockers. Gain of 6.


20: first option to Davante on the quick comeback route. Fuller anticipated it beautifully and almost picked it off. Excellent play on his part, but again, Rodgers goes with read #1.


21: Rodgers looks immediately to the middle of the field (targeting no one) to hold the single high safety to the middle of the field, and immediately throws out to HIS first option (which was MVS) and barely overthrew him.


22: from GBs own 33 with 15 seconds left in the half, Rodgers takes the underneath pass catcher in Graham who bursted 15-20 yards to set up a last second Hail Mary play.


23: Hail Mary came up short. Obvious decision.


24: Rodgers play action on 2nd and 7, as soon as he gets to the conclusion of his drop back, he has Mack slipping around Bulaga from the right, so he sidesteps to the left to try and find anything, and throws it away.


25: a 2nd and 17 play where Rodgers maybe had 2.5 to 3 second of drop back (great protection, and tried a middle of the field shot to Graham that resulted in a spot of the foul pass interference call.


26: Robertson-Harris splits Taylor and Bakhtiari like they weren’t even there, and he had to reactionarily (yes I just made up a word), roll to his left to get outside of the Pocket (barely) to throw it away where he was getting pursued by 3 unblocked bear defenders. DAMNIT AARON, find a receiver when you’re about to be murdered by 3 grown men!!!!!


27: first option quick out to Lewis. You offense killing SOB, AR


28: no one immediately open, AR shoots up the middle for a (temporary first down) before a holding call that brings it back.


29: 3rd and 15 after the penalty, before either receiver could even get halfway to the sticks, Rodgers gets mauled by Floyd. And the check down (Graham) got tripped up as Rodgers was getting pressure.


30: 2nd and 10. No one ran a route short of the sticks, and before the play develops, he gets met by multiple pass rushers. Jones leaked out into the flat, but it was simultaneous to Rodgers getting sacked.


31: it’s 3rd and 15, tries a quick WR screen (the original play design), and it gets blown up. Punt.


32: after 3 consecutive positive runs for chunk yardage, quick out to Davante for a 10 yard gain.


33: 2nd and 17, faces immediate pressure from Mack, rolls out to keep from getting mauled, can’t find receiver, throws it away (as a side note, he held on a bit too long for my liking, but only because it’s the same sort of play that got him hurt on the Barr play. Not because he passed up a checkdown).


34: on 3rd and 17, he has pretty decent time in the pocket, multiple seconds actually, it’s tough to see whether anyone was open or not because of the camera angle vs how far down the field receivers have to go to get to the sticks, but he eventually rolls hard to the right, and heaves it cross field to Graham on a ball he almost caught. Offensive holding declined. Drive over.


35: Rodgers hard play action, mid of the field strike to Trevor for his one and only catch of the night (vastly underthrown, btw)


36: Rodgers in 12 personnel with both wides to the left, motions Davante to the right, so Devante runs a slant inside to the left, pressure is coming from Rodgers’ left which forces him to roll to the right (not focusing on Davante). And finds Tonyan for 28 yards.


37: playaction bootleg rolling to the left, finds Lewis for a perfect throw on the boundary, Lewis just can’t haul it in. Perfect design.


38: Rodgers sacked as Bakh allows an almost immediate pressure to the inside, never stood a chance. Trusted his superstar LT. defensive illegal contact call negated the play.


39: Rodgers scrambles for 9 yards on 3rd and 11, turning a potential 48 yard FG attempt into a 39 yard yard FG attempt. Smart play in a low scoring game.


40: terrible Rodgers throw to ice the game to MVS. First option, just an awful throw.

The point being, contrary to what the @gbgary ‘s of the world will lead you to believe, Rodgers followed the plan and is very much invested in wanting to make this LaFleur offense work. But by golly whenever some clueless nutjob tries insinuating this, that, and more, on one play mind you, it’s all of the proof that you need to back up a baseless claim.

Next time, do your own homework as opposed to looking at one isolated example. And EVEN if that one example helps illustrate your point, you’re going to look to one play out of an entire game’s worth of content?

You can miss me with that.

EDIT: the plays that didn’t work were due to immediate pressure, or **** poor throwing by Rodgers. Very little, if any, Can be attributed to Rodgers ignoring open receivers. Or bypassing checkdowns.

 

[PackAttack12]

I'd like to clarify something.

Fennell did not say Rodgers was ignoring WR's. He said he was too slow recognizing the blitz and getting the ball out, compared to how he was years ago. And he's absolutely right.

Rodgers used to destroy teams who blitzed him. He hasn't, for a while. Is it because of injuries? Old age? New offense? Idk, but he hasn't attacked blitzes like he used to.

Fair enough...my counter would be this: what stats back up the claim that Rodgers is now less effective vs the blitz? I’m not saying they aren’t there, I’m saying show them to me, as to my knowledge they aren’t there. I’m open to concrete stats though to force me into considering it as a possibility.

 

[greengold]

Don’t expect this type of nerdiness from me on a consistent basis, I just so happened to have a little extra time on my hands tonight, along with being irritated to no end that people continue to try and lambast AR for foolishness. But this is my view on the (I counted) 40 total drop backs from Rodgers. Some resulted in sacks, some were penalties, but I’m close to 100% positive I covered them all. If I missed one or two, my apologies.

1: screen pass blown up. Linsley didn’t get to the block. Obviously ARs 1st option was the screen to Jones


2: 1st option was Allison, he slipped and fell. Jones was on the same side of the field, but was met by a linebacker 6 yards from the first down marker (play was 3rd and 10).


3: Graham was brought in motion to the right, clearly ARs 1st option, quick out was thrown at his feet. Bad throw, but not ignoring the playbook.


4: 3rd and 10. Could be argued about who was the first option. Allison and MVS were bunched on the left side of the formation. Allison cuts inside for a quick slant that is immediately met by 2 linebackers, MVS goes up the sideline for a wheel route that was never able to develop, as Khalil Mack beat Turner so fast that he had a clear sprint to Rodgers forcing him to go down


5: first option was to Davante, ball was thrown in traffic and he never had a shot at it. Again...first option.


6: first option to Davante, quick out to the right to Davante for 5 yards.


7: first option was to Davante for another out/comeback on 3rd and 5. Ball thrown at his feet.


8: first play of drive #4. Fake handoff to Jones, fake end around to Davante. A play that’s clearly designed to take a deep shot. And it was completed to MVS for the biggest play of the game.


9: rollout to the left, first option to Lewis for 8 yards


10: first option to Davante for the first down on 2nd and 2.


11: Rodgers goes through all progressions, realizes no one is open, and throws a jump ball to Jimmy Graham for the TD. there goes the theory that Rodgers doesn’t take chances


12: Rodgers first option comeback route to MVS for 9 yards. (On first play of drive from the 4)


13: first option on an immediate throw to MVS on the outside to secure the first down. So much for screw the playbook right??


14: 3rd and 5....finds Adams after he was covered on the slant, he had time in the pocket, and found him on the reroute to the outside. First down.


15: Rodgers faced immediate pressure, flips it through traffic to the running back (Williams) for a quick 5 yard gain on 1st and 10. He wants to take a sack, remember??


As a side note, this is in the midst of 8 straight completions.


16: this is the faithful play where it is confirmed that Rodgers is just LOOKING FOR THE home run play. Graham immediately leaks out to the right for a one yard out route, Rodgers rightfully looks him off (by design) to turn his attention to the middle of the field where (simultaneously) Robertson-Harris beats Linsley like a rag doll to the inside, AND turner loses a battle with Hicks where, from some reason, he decides to stop blocking him. When you go from read 1, to read 2 and you are immediately met by two pass rushers in your lap, please tell me what you would have done different than what Rodgers did??????


17: it was 2nd and 7, no one ran a route short of the sticks, (except maybe Jones who motioned out wide to ARs left, looks like he MIGHT have ran a 7 yard comebacker) but Rodgers never looked that way, because why would that be read number one? And Rodgers tried a sideline throw to Davante that fell incomplete


18: before Rodgers could get through progression number one, he’s met with up the middle pressure, rolls out to the left to avoid it, and Jones with a creative shovel pass flip to Jones for a first down. But hey, why even try to escape the pocket, right??


19: First option to graham on an immediate out to Graham with blockers. Gain of 6.


20: first option to Davante on the quick comeback route. Fuller anticipated it beautifully and almost picked it off. Excellent play on his part, but again, Rodgers goes with read #1.


21: Rodgers looks immediately to the middle of the field (targeting no one) to hold the single high safety to the middle of the field, and immediately throws out to HIS first option (which was MVS) and barely overthrew him.


22: from GBs own 33 with 15 seconds left in the half, Rodgers takes the underneath pass catcher in Graham who bursted 15-20 yards to set up a last second Hail Mary play.


23: Hail Mary came up short. Obvious decision.


24: Rodgers play action on 2nd and 7, as soon as he gets to the conclusion of his drop back, he has Mack slipping around Bulaga from the right, so he sidesteps to the left to try and find anything, and throws it away.


25: a 2nd and 17 play where Rodgers maybe had 2.5 to 3 second of drop back (great protection, and tried a middle of the field shot to Graham that resulted in a spot of the foul pass interference call.


26: Robertson-Harris splits Taylor and Bakhtiari like they weren’t even there, and he had to reactionarily (yes I just made up a word), roll to his left to get outside of the Pocket (barely) to throw it away where he was getting pursued by 3 unblocked bear defenders. DAMNIT AARON, find a receiver when you’re about to be murdered by 3 grown men!!!!!


27: first option quick out to Lewis. You offense killing SOB, AR


28: no one immediately open, AR shoots up the middle for a (temporary first down) before a holding call that brings it back.


29: 3rd and 15 after the penalty, before either receiver could even get halfway to the sticks, Rodgers gets mauled by Floyd. And the check down (Graham) got tripped up as Rodgers was getting pressure.


30: 2nd and 10. No one ran a route short of the sticks, and before the play develops, he gets met by multiple pass rushers. Jones leaked out into the flat, but it was simultaneous to Rodgers getting sacked.


31: it’s 3rd and 15, tries a quick WR screen (the original play design), and it gets blown up. Punt.


32: after 3 consecutive positive runs for chunk yardage, quick out to Davante for a 10 yard gain.


33: 2nd and 17, faces immediate pressure from Mack, rolls out to keep from getting mauled, can’t find receiver, throws it away (as a side note, he held on a bit too long for my liking, but only because it’s the same sort of play that got him hurt on the Barr play. Not because he passed up a checkdown).


34: on 3rd and 17, he has pretty decent time in the pocket, multiple seconds actually, it’s tough to see whether anyone was open or not because of the camera angle vs how far down the field receivers have to go to get to the sticks, but he eventually rolls hard to the right, and heaves it cross field to Graham on a ball he almost caught. Offensive holding declined. Drive over.


35: Rodgers hard play action, mid of the field strike to Trevor for his one and only catch of the night (vastly underthrown, btw)


36: Rodgers in 12 personnel with both wides to the left, motions Davante to the right, so Devante runs a slant inside to the left, pressure is coming from Rodgers’ left which forces him to roll to the right (not focusing on Davante). And finds Tonyan for 28 yards.


37: playaction bootleg rolling to the left, finds Lewis for a perfect throw on the boundary, Lewis just can’t haul it in. Perfect design.


38: Rodgers sacked as Bakh allows an almost immediate pressure to the inside, never stood a chance. Trusted his superstar LT. defensive illegal contact call negated the play.


39: Rodgers scrambles for 9 yards on 3rd and 11, turning a potential 48 yard FG attempt into a 39 yard yard FG attempt. Smart play in a low scoring game.


40: terrible Rodgers throw to ice the game to MVS. First option, just an awful throw.

The point being, contrary to what the @gbgary ‘s of the world will lead you to believe, Rodgers followed the plan and is very much invested in wanting to make this LaFleur offense work. But by golly whenever some clueless nutjob tries insinuating this, that, and more, on one play mind you, it’s all of the proof that you need to back up a baseless claim.

Next time, do your own homework as opposed to looking at one isolated example. And EVEN if that one example helps illustrate your point, you’re going to look to one play out of an entire game’s worth of content?

You can miss me with that.

EDIT: the plays that didn’t work were due to immediate pressure, or **** poor throwing by Rodgers. Very little, if any, Can be attributed to Rodgers ignoring open receivers. Or bypassing checkdowns.

Dude! So, you reactionarily reviewed game film like a good boy!?!?!?!

Well F’ing done my brother.

It is fun. And, what I find cool is you went in review with a different focus - how his throws meshed with scheme. Stellar work. And, it does take work.

Some of the things I’m wondering about in terms of scheme & teaching/coaching moments, are how many run plays were checked out of during the game.

Later in games are generally great times to pour on a dedicated running assault.

Having reviewed it 3 times myself, our passer didn’t stand a chance, and it’s remarkable how well he did, considering. He willed himself to do the best he could. Yeah, he made a pile of bad throws, but many great throws as well. I believe that back shoulder to Lewis is just something they will need to work on more. Perfect throw. Lewis simply didn’t turn around fast enough.

Regardless, well done bud.