Week 1: Green Bay at Chicago in Primetime!

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't do nearly the "film study" that some of you do, but I watch every game and often a second time, as well as rewind and rewatch specific plays.

What I would like to know and this is just my gut, has Rodgers found more success rolling out VS staying in the pocket? I'm not talking about being forced out of the pocket and scrambling, I mean a designed roll out. I know this somewhat limits his options by almost cutting the field in half, but he can make that cross field throws if needed. Just seems like it buys him more time to do what he does best.

Just asking a question, not making any factual statements.

 

[PackAttack12]

I don't do nearly the "film study" that some of you do, but I watch every game and often a second time, as well as rewind and rewatch specific plays.

What I would like to know and this is just my gut, has Rodgers found more success rolling out VS staying in the pocket? I'm not talking about being forced out of the pocket and scrambling, I mean a designed roll out. I know this somewhat limits his options by almost cutting the field in half, but he can make that cross field throws if needed. Just seems like it buys him more time to do what he does best.

Just asking a question, not making any factual statements.

In my humble opinion, at least in the first game of the season, it clearly worked to his benefit on designed rollouts. Because it allowed the oline and other motion to go one way, as he veered the opposite way. This, to me, bought him more time in the pocket as the defensive front was already at a disadvantage trying to play catchup, along with the fact that clearly the oline played a subpar game as a unit. When he was in the pocket, he was a more stationary target, which allowed to some degree the bears to pin their ears back and go head hunting.

Hopefully the Packers will improve in the running game, thus keeping defenses more honest. Whether on regular play action, or on bootlegs. It will be key.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In my humble opinion, at least in the first game of the season, it clearly worked to his benefit on designed rollouts. Because it allowed the oline and other motion to go one way, as he veered the opposite way. This, to me, bought him more time in the pocket as the defensive front was already at a disadvantage trying to play catchup, along with the fact that clearly the oline played a subpar game as a unit. When he was in the pocket, he was a more stationary target, which allowed to some degree the bears to pin their ears back and go head hunting.

Hopefully the Packers will improve in the running game, thus keeping defenses more honest. Whether on regular play action, or on bootlegs. It will be key.

Thanks and again, its just my gut observation, especially over the last 3-4 years. Like you said, I think it prevents a defensive front from just pinning their ears back and bull rushing up the middle. Brady seems to thrive in the pocket (also casual observation), but maybe the Packers need to roll Rodgers out some more, because he still seems to be very accurate while on the move.

 

[PackAttack12]

Thanks and again, its just my gut gut observation, especially over the last 3-4 years. Like you said, I think it prevents a defensive front from just pinning their ears back and bull rushing up the middle. Brady seems to thrive in the pocket (also casual observation), but maybe the Packers need to roll Rodgers out some more, because he still seems to be very accurate while on the move.

Agreed about Brady, but he’s also had olines of several years ago that were makeshift at best and wore him out. Now, he is blessed to have terrific scheme, a terrific OC and oline coach, along with pretty good personnel to help him out these days. Along with the fact that he’s a quick release quarterback as it is.

I really want Green Bay to focus on oline reinforcements in the near future, especially on the interior. The only one I’m 100% comfortable with is Bakhtiari. Lane is horrible, Linsley is serviceable, but more than replaceable, Turner is a guy the team seems to be high on but the jury is still out, and Bulaga is one bend over to grab a dropped pen away from being useless.

 

[gbgary]

I don't do nearly the "film study" that some of you do, but I watch every game and often a second time, as well as rewind and rewatch specific plays.

What I would like to know and this is just my gut, has Rodgers found more success rolling out VS staying in the pocket? I'm not talking about being forced out of the pocket and scrambling, I mean a designed roll out. I know this somewhat limits his options by almost cutting the field in half, but he can make that cross field throws if needed. Just seems like it buys him more time to do what he does best.

Just asking a question, not making any factual statements.

in the old offense where they were looking for big plays (that take time to develop) yes. the new offense is a more up-tempo and quick-strike offense. the old was spread formations. the new isn't. rodgers is stuck somewhere in the middle right now.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

in the old offense where they were looking for big plays (that take time to develop) yes. the new offense is a more up-tempo and quick-strike offense. the old was spread formations. the new isn't. rodgers is stuck somewhere in the middle right now.

Makes sense and will be a developing thing, that people like me will just have to be patient with, as it progresses and hopefully starts paying off.

I do prefer seeing the Packer offense playing quick, no huddle from time to time and keep that defense from being able to sub in. If that is in MLF's plans, I am guessing we will see more of it this weekend in the friendly confines of Lambeau Field where noise doesn't make that as difficult as it can on the road.

 

[Mondio]

after 1 game, I don't think anybody can say what this offense is and it's been 2 years since we've seen a healthy Rodgers with a complement of receivers he's familiar with. people forget just how quick this offense could get.

 

[gbgary]

after 1 game, I don't think anybody can say what this offense is and it's been 2 years since we've seen a healthy Rodgers with a complement of receivers he's familiar with. people forget just how quick this offense could get.

well...we know what the new O is supposed to look like...rams, falcons, etc.

 

[Mondio]

well...we know what the new O is supposed to look like...rams, falcons, etc.

Which are very similar to the titans too? Didn’t think so. Rodgers is not Goff or Cousins or Ryan. So much more capable.

 

[swhitset]

We haven't been able to get away with that since Sterling Sharpe retired. I hated seeing it too but he seemed to have a knack for making it turn out just fine.



Didn't know Mondio had morals. maybe that's why he needs the support.




No kidding. It would be different if the rest of the defense had the receivers blanketed but all it seems to accomplish is giving the QB plenty of time to find a guy sneaking in somewhere for an easy catch.




When your point is that Rodgers always passes up the open man the rest of your analysis doesn't really matter. The video clearly shows Rodgers not throwing to the open man. Whether or not he SHOULD have thrown to that man is irrelevant to his point and only confuses the issue.

I wish I could put the funny tag on gbgary’s agree tag.

 

[PackAttack12]

I'd like to clarify something.

Fennell did not say Rodgers was ignoring WR's. He said he was too slow recognizing the blitz and getting the ball out, compared to how he was years ago. And he's absolutely right.

Rodgers used to destroy teams who blitzed him. He hasn't, for a while. Is it because of injuries? Old age? New offense? Idk, but he hasn't attacked blitzes like he used to.

Were you able to come up with anything?

 

[pacmaniac]

I found this. At least last season, up to Week 10, Rodgers was the second best QB against the blitz:

https://twitter.com/NFLMatchup/status/1061992279643250694/photo/1