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It's hilarious that you think you're so smart that you can't stop making fun of other posters for advicing you to not put too much stock into reports from practice yet agree with a different poster telling you exactly the same thing.

LOL...and you seriously read right past the disclosures of my very statements that are merely repeating the reports coming out of camp. Camp heros don't win regular season games, nor will ever.
 
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Dillion was laid out by a lb..

not sure if was guy from Minnesota or not
Welcome to the NFL. Of course everybody gets laid out sooner or later. It's how often that matters and how often you can make the guy miss, which is two sides of the same coin. I'm not sure what people expect. Nobody's going to get to 4 yards per carry in this league by trying to bludgeon defenders no matter the circumference of his thights.

The secret sauce is in the wiggle. I would have liked to see how much of that Dillon could show in preseason. Not much in the college tape.
 
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Welcome to the NFL. Of course everybody gets laid out sooner or later. It's how often that matters and how often you can make the guy miss, which is two sides of the same coin. I'm not sure what people expect. Nobody's going to get to 4 yards per carry in this league by trying to bludgeon defenders no matter the circumference of his thights.

The secret sauce is in the wiggle. I would have liked to see how much of that Dillon could show in preseason. Not much in the college tape.

It is concerning that Dillon won in college by basically being bigger than the defense, you're absolutely correct that that doesn't work in the NFL. In college, Dillon didn't show much lateral agility to get guys to miss, he just ran through them most of the time. Maybe he has that skill and just didn't need to show it in college...faint hope but you gotta grasp for what you can.
 

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Aaron Jones is the starter, Williams will probably play second most snaps because he's the best pass blocker, and it sounds like Ervin is blowing up at camp; what's gonna happen if Dillon ends up 4th string RB? I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there's a chance it does and that's really gonna suck after spending a 2nd round pick on the guy.
 
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Aaron Jones is the starter, Williams will probably play second most snaps because he's the best pass blocker, and it sounds like Ervin is blowing up at camp; what's gonna happen if Dillon ends up 4th string RB? I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there's a chance it does and that's really gonna suck after spending a 2nd round pick on the guy.

Actually it was already a mistake by Gutekunst to spend a second rounder on another backup after trading up to select Love in the first round.

It would be a waste of a pick if Dillon doesn't at least end up as the #2 on the depth chart.
 
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It is concerning that Dillon won in college by basically being bigger than the defense, you're absolutely correct that that doesn't work in the NFL. In college, Dillon didn't show much lateral agility to get guys to miss, he just ran through them most of the time. Maybe he has that skill and just didn't need to show it in college...faint hope but you gotta grasp for what you can.
I'm pretty sure we drafted him as the zone blocking scheme, where you cut once and torpedo...

Jones and his 6+ ypc has everyone spoiled... Lol

But seriously. Durability..... I have a feeling we wouldn't have drafted Dillon, and paid Jones what ever. If Jones had not spent the first 3 years with the foot injuries...
 
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I'm pretty sure we drafted him as the zone blocking scheme, where you cut once and torpedo...
I believe that's so much of an oversimplification as to be wrong.

Consider Derrick Henry, a guy some folks have tried to compare Dillon to :whistling::

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Play after play after play--Henry isn't torpedoing anybody. Patience, setting up blocks, vision, jump cuts and redirection at the line, then burst, and then slippery. His power isn't in taking on tacklers; it's in breaking their arm tackles without losing steam. He got subtle twiches into optimal angles. Oh, sure, some of those DBs are making business decisions as he barrels at them under a full head of steam. But there's your secret sauce--getting to the 3rd. level clean to put the fear of God in them.

No running back in this league can be successful if he's just one cut and go, taking on tacklers. If that's all Dillon brings to the table he'll be running into the backs of his own lineman as we can see in his college tape. So you need one yard? OK, but you wouldn't want to spend a second round pick for that.

When he shows one of those redirct, bursty cutbacks with guys off balance waving him by I'll be the first to note it. I'll wait.
 

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I'm pretty sure we drafted him as the zone blocking scheme, where you cut once and torpedo...

Jones and his 6+ ypc has everyone spoiled... Lol

But seriously. Durability..... I have a feeling we wouldn't have drafted Dillon, and paid Jones what ever. If Jones had not spent the first 3 years with the foot injuries...

If you're worried about durability, then drafting a power back with Dillon's number of college carries isn't generally a great answer. I'm not saying Dillon can't be good, just that he's not really the usual profile for a 2nd round RB.
 

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