Yeah, that's why I cannot for the life of me understand some of the skepticism at the tight end position in comparison to last year. I like Cook, but we're way better off now than before.
Unlike a lot of other posters I don't expect Jones to have a huge impact during his rookie season, mostly receiving playing time on obvious passing down only.
It's truly amazing how many whiny wimps have frequented this fine forum within the past few weeks, leading to a point when members are being offended by a poster mentioning that he's not interested in talking about a specific topic.
That's especially baffling considering the player being talked about has created a significant higher amount of pages on this forum over the past three plus years than regular season and playoff catches combined.
Considering he was one of the highest rated DBs as a rookie per an often cited player ranking website, I can see where you're coming from lol
Really? You as a forum poster have concluded that your opinion on roster formation is the absolute truth? I didn't realize it was so cut and dried prior to any games being played.
Not sure about that. Adams is about a year ahead of Nelson's career track. I think it remains to be seen if he can perform like a typical #1 receiver.
why forget it? he played it, he did well in it. It doesn't fit your narrative? Let's just use the season he was hurt in pretty much all of it. A season where it was obvious to almost anyone watching he did not look the same physically as he did the year before and use that as the benchmark? I'm not going to argue that he had a decent season last year because it was pretty bad. But then he did not look the same physically from one year to the next to me. Same as Adams the year before and BahkT the year before that. Come back healthy, gain their physicality and amazingly enough, their play elevated right along with it.
and let's forget the offensive line was a constant rotation till about week 9. Let's forget that Adam's looked completely different physically the entire year. You watch his rookie season, you watch the next and then you watch last year and tell me that's the same ****ing player LOL. His first step off the line in years 1 and 3 look completely different than the year you reference. Was it because he sucked? or he was hurt? BahkT had ankle surgery as soon as the season ended and looked to take a step back that year IMO, I was skeptical of the contract they gave him, and keeping the injury in mind said he could still earn it, he has thus far. Let's also ignore in 2015 that Cobb had a bad shoulder almost all year long too. I think both those guys stepped in pretty well for the loss of Jordy last year in that Giants game. SO much was going on 15 more than just losing Jordy.
Not sure what you just went off on, besides that I mentioned the correlation of a #3 or #4 CB being asked to be a #1 or #2 as being similar to the WR position? Didn't mean to rehash the 2015 season because of it.
I don't doubt that guys have made the step up from being low man to high man on the totem pole. That is what happens all the time and what is expected to happen. What I was stating was to expect and rely on it to be successful every time is not realistic, especially when you are saying "The guy played great his rookie year, what happened?" and forget that the guy was playing in an easier role as a #3 CB or #3 WR and is now being asked to step up into a more difficult role. Yes, injuries play a part in performance, but as far as the CB position goes, do you think TT signs House and uses his first draft pick on King, if he is convinced that the poor play last year was just due to injuries?
Sorry for the rehash, I should have just said there were 20 other variables that season besides Jordy. But I guess you meant to imply that nobody could step in and fill his shoes, wen in reality I think we had guys good enough as has been proven before and since that season, they just weren't healthy enough.Not sure what you just went off on, besides that I mentioned the correlation of a #3 or #4 CB being asked to be a #1 or #2 as being similar to the WR position? Didn't mean to rehash the 2015 season because of it.
I don't doubt that guys have made the step up from being low man to high man on the totem pole. That is what happens all the time and what is expected to happen. What I was stating was to expect and rely on it to be successful every time is not realistic, especially when you are saying "The guy played great his rookie year, what happened?" and forget that the guy was playing in an easier role as a #3 CB or #3 WR and is now being asked to step up into a more difficult role. Yes, injuries play a part in performance, but as far as the CB position goes, do you think TT signs House and uses his first draft pick on King, if he is convinced that the poor play last year was just due to injuries?
I like those numbers and your reasoning. My only adjustment, and it would be dependent upon performances in the upcoming preseason games, would be for 4 RBs and 9 OL, as I love the developmental guys we have there, and think that they are more likely to get poached than a 5th rb who is also a rookie.
Good point, what are any of us even doing here?
