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In my opinion, these players would provide depth and/or upgrade via trade before the deadline:

DT/DE-David Irving (Probably won't happen, but if Cowboys lose Week 6 vs Jax, they should consider it, depth replacement for Wilkerson) **

DE-Brandon Graham (contract talks between both teams have stalled possibly marking the end, can still be an impact player) **

ILB- Deonne Bucannon (immediate upgrade over Oren Burks, who can also provide versatility with experience playing Safety as well) ***

SS- Landon Collins (chances are slim, but is in last year of rookie deal. Giants going nowhere. Why not trade for him and see if he'll stick around with a dark horse contender, ahead of unrestricted free agency?) ****

RB- David Johnson ( I don't think Arizona is gonna pay Johnson the deal he deserves and is seeking. Obviously an immediate upgrade over all the running backs currently in uniform, he is an elite runner, blocker and pass catcher. He instantly makes the offense Top 5, and ensures a productive offense independent of No. 12. He also lessens the amount of throws and exposure to re-injury for Rodgers. I think Gute should call and inquire. This move mitigates the flaws on defense a little too.) *****

Some interesting candidates here. Notable:

David Johnson already got his extension.

Bucannon has been playing really poorly. It might be a stretch to say that he would upgrade Burks.
 

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Some interesting candidates here. Notable:

David Johnson already got his extension.

Bucannon has been playing really poorly. It might be a stretch to say that he would upgrade Burks.

Didn't know Johnson got his extension. Pretty good deal. Too bad. A back like him or Lev Bell would be a franchise changer.

I think Bucannon playing below usual standards is due to new head coach Steve Wilks and his new defense scheme. Their loss could be GB's gain. I think he would do well in Pettine's scheme.
 
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Didn't know Johnson got his extension. Pretty good deal. Too bad. A back like him or Lev Bell would be a franchise changer.

I think Bucannon playing below usual standards is due to new head coach Steve Wilks and his new defense scheme. Their loss could be GB's gain. I think he would do well in Pettine's scheme.

You may be right, but I’m not so sure. I tend to think he’s always been an overrated player. And I just can’t see them trading for a veteran to place in front of a high draft pick who they like .
 

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In my opinion, these players would provide depth and/or upgrade via trade before the deadline:

DT/DE-David Irving (Probably won't happen, but if Cowboys lose Week 6 vs Jax, they should consider it, depth replacement for Wilkerson) **

DE-Brandon Graham (contract talks between both teams have stalled possibly marking the end, can still be an impact player) **

ILB- Deonne Bucannon (immediate upgrade over Oren Burks, who can also provide versatility with experience playing Safety as well) ***

SS- Landon Collins (chances are slim, but is in last year of rookie deal. Giants going nowhere. Why not trade for him and see if he'll stick around with a dark horse contender, ahead of unrestricted free agency?) ****

RB- David Johnson ( I don't think Arizona is gonna pay Johnson the deal he deserves and is seeking. Obviously an immediate upgrade over all the running backs currently in uniform, he is an elite runner, blocker and pass catcher. He instantly makes the offense Top 5, and ensures a productive offense independent of No. 12. He also lessens the amount of throws and exposure to re-injury for Rodgers. I think Gute should call and inquire. This move mitigates the flaws on defense a little too.) *****

If they let HAHA and Matthews walk next season they could get Collins. I’d be ok with him playing SS and the Packers drafting a FS.
 

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I’m on mobile otherwise I’d link it, but did Jay Glazer not say this morning the Raiders are shopping Cooper and safety Karl Joseph. I’m not familiar with Joseph, is he a potential suitor?
 
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In my opinion, these players would provide depth and/or upgrade via trade before the deadline:

DT/DE-David Irving (Probably won't happen, but if Cowboys lose Week 6 vs Jax, they should consider it, depth replacement for Wilkerson) **

DE-Brandon Graham (contract talks between both teams have stalled possibly marking the end, can still be an impact player) **

ILB- Deonne Bucannon (immediate upgrade over Oren Burks, who can also provide versatility with experience playing Safety as well) ***

SS- Landon Collins (chances are slim, but is in last year of rookie deal. Giants going nowhere. Why not trade for him and see if he'll stick around with a dark horse contender, ahead of unrestricted free agency?) ****

RB- David Johnson ( I don't think Arizona is gonna pay Johnson the deal he deserves and is seeking. Obviously an immediate upgrade over all the running backs currently in uniform, he is an elite runner, blocker and pass catcher. He instantly makes the offense Top 5, and ensures a productive offense independent of No. 12. He also lessens the amount of throws and exposure to re-injury for Rodgers. I think Gute should call and inquire. This move mitigates the flaws on defense a little too.) *****

Graham is the only player out of the list the Packers should be interested in. I highly doubt the Eagles are interedted in trading him. In addition the move would eat up most of the team's cap space for the rest of the season.

Didn't know Johnson got his extension. Pretty good deal. Too bad. A back like him or Lev Bell would be a franchise changer.

The Packers don't need a running back making that kind of money.

I’m on mobile otherwise I’d link it, but did Jay Glazer not say this morning the Raiders are shopping Cooper and safety Karl Joseph. I’m not familiar with Joseph, is he a potential suitor?

Joseph has mostly been a disappointment after being selected 14th overall in 2016. The Packers should pass on him.
 
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I’m on mobile otherwise I’d link it, but did Jay Glazer not say this morning the Raiders are shopping Cooper and safety Karl Joseph. I’m not familiar with Joseph, is he a potential suitor?

Joseph is interesting because he’s talented and I still think there’s potential there, but as of right now I can’t see him rising above the scrum of Brice, Whitehead, and Jones. So I don’t necessarily think it would be a helpful move. He makes more sense to me as an offseason acquisition where you can get him in your system for a while and get him acclimated and see if you can unlock more of his ability than the Raiders were able to.
 

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I know our CB depth is much improved but hearing Raiders may be shopping Gareon Conley as well. Went from starter to playing no snaps yesterday. Definitely worth a call.
 

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I know our CB depth is much improved but hearing Raiders may be shopping Gareon Conley as well. Went from starter to playing no snaps yesterday. Definitely worth a call.

Just get Patrick Peterson he's said to be unhappy in Arizona losing and the Cardinals are said to be willing to listen to offers for him. Just get it over with and give them a first round pick. His contract is reasonable and despite having king Alexander and jackson. Adding Peterson to that group makes it the best un the league with breeland and Williams rounding out the group this year but not likely to be with the team after this season. Peterson at 11m and 12m in 2019/20 is the perfect fit for a team in desperate need of defensive and special teams playmakers
 
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I know our CB depth is much improved but hearing Raiders may be shopping Gareon Conley as well. Went from starter to playing no snaps yesterday. Definitely worth a call.

Conley doesn't present an upgrade over any of the young cornerbacks on the roster. No, thanks.

Just get Patrick Peterson he's said to be unhappy in Arizona losing and the Cardinals are said to be willing to listen to offers for him. Just get it over with and give them a first round pick. His contract is reasonable and despite having king Alexander and jackson.

Adding a player earning as much as Peterson to a position perceived as a strength is not a smart way to manage the salary cap. Especially as the Packers woul have to make a corresponding move to clear some space to even fit Peterson under the cap at this point. It would be a terrible decision considering you would trade a first rounder to acquire him on top of it.
 
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I know our CB depth is much improved but hearing Raiders may be shopping Gareon Conley as well. Went from starter to playing no snaps yesterday. Definitely worth a call.

Now that is an interesting idea.
 

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Various sites reporting that Amari Cooper is on the trade block. You want a dynamic WR that's value is low because his QB is terrible? Offer a second rounder or the lower of the Packers' two first rounders this year and the Packers would have a WR duo to rival the Vikings.
 
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Various sites reporting that Amari Cooper is on the trade block. You want a dynamic WR that's value is low because his QB is terrible? Offer a second rounder or the lower of the Packers' two first rounders this year and the Packers would have a WR duo to rival the Vikings.

Gruden said after yesterday's game that the Raiders aren't shopping Cooper. I have already listed the reasons why I wouldn't like the Packers to trade for him even if Oakland considered moving on from him.
 
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I don't see WR as an area where the Packers really need to spend to improve at the deadline.
 

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Gruden said after yesterday's game that the Raiders aren't shopping Cooper. I have already listed the reasons why I wouldn't like the Packers to trade for him even if Oakland considered moving on from him.

I don't see WR as an area where the Packers really need to spend to improve at the deadline.

Hey, I certainly am not advocating that the Packers NEED to go get him. But acquiring highly talented players in the NFL is rarely a losing proposition
 
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Hey, I certainly am not advocating that the Packers NEED to go get him. But acquiring highly talented players in the NFL is rarely a losing proposition

The Packers acquiring a receiver who hasn't lived up to expectations and will count close to $14 million towards the cap next season while not desperately being in need of an upgrade at the position would most likely turn out not to be a great move. Especially considering Gutekunst would have to give up a decent draft pick for the Raiders to agree to a deal as well.
 

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The Packers acquiring a receiver who hasn't lived up to expectations and will count close to $14 million towards the cap next season while not desperately being in need of an upgrade at the position would most likely turn out not to be a great move. Especially considering Gutekunst would have to give up a decent draft pick for the Raiders to agree to a deal as well.

That decent draft pick will most likely not net a player of Ridley's caliber and (this is what New England tends to do really well) if you can rehab Ridley's image with an actual good QB then you can probably trade him away and more than make back what you gave up to get him. Just a thought, again, WR isn't the main flaw on this team, but the Packers passed on trading for a guy who would have turned their biggest flaw into a strength (Mack) so trying to build up the passing game might help the team compensate. Maybe.
 

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That decent draft pick will most likely not net a player of Ridley's caliber and (this is what New England tends to do really well) if you can rehab Ridley's image with an actual good QB then you can probably trade him away and more than make back what you gave up to get him. Just a thought, again, WR isn't the main flaw on this team, but the Packers passed on trading for a guy who would have turned their biggest flaw into a strength (Mack) so trying to build up the passing game might help the team compensate. Maybe.
lol I love quotes like this. Saying that the Packers “passed” on Mack simply because some other team was able to acquire him says a lot about your position. I’m not going to rehash the whole Mack debate, but making statements of unsubstantiated opinion about something does not strengthen your opinion in another.
 
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lol I love quotes like this. Saying that the Packers “passed” on Mack simply because some other team was able to acquire him says a lot about your position. I’m not going to rehash the whole Mack debate, but making statements of unsubstantiated opinion about something does not strengthen your opinion in another.

The Packers could have traded for him. They might have had to overpay to do so but they could have (though in retrospect it appears the Bears got a great deal). It's ok to mention that the Packers passed on a guy, that doesn't mean they are awful, just that they decided not to trade a given set of assets for a given player. Unless you're implying that the Raiders just refused to do business with the packers and the Packers REALLY wanted to do the deal but Gruden was just like, "Nope, I don't like the color green any more."
 

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Just get Patrick Peterson he's said to be unhappy in Arizona losing and the Cardinals are said to be willing to listen to offers for him. Just get it over with and give them a first round pick. His contract is reasonable and despite having king Alexander and jackson. Adding Peterson to that group makes it the best un the league with breeland and Williams rounding out the group this year but not likely to be with the team after this season. Peterson at 11m and 12m in 2019/20 is the perfect fit for a team in desperate need of defensive and special teams playmakers

Boomer Esiason thinks Peterson's Cardinal teammate Chandler Jones is going to the Jets. I'm all for us jumping in front of the Jets and throwing the Saints 1st round pick to get him. He's a lot cheaper than Mack. Not the player Khalil is but a guy I'd love to have. It's not like we're going to need to extend anybody from the 2014-2016 draft classes anyway.

Right now is the time to make your deal with the bye week coming up so the new player can have time to learn the playbook.
 

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The Packers could have traded for him. They might have had to overpay to do so but they could have (though in retrospect it appears the Bears got a great deal). It's ok to mention that the Packers passed on a guy, that doesn't mean they are awful, just that they decided not to trade a given set of assets for a given player. Unless you're implying that the Raiders just refused to do business with the packers and the Packers REALLY wanted to do the deal but Gruden was just like, "Nope, I don't like the color green any more."
If I offer to buy something from you and offer a price.. If you refuse to sell it at that price.. who is doing the passing? Now I realize that your response will be that when you counter at a higher price and I choose to say no.. that I am passing... fine. But the reality is that we have no idea what if anything was offered by the Packers etc... Your simple statement saying that the Packers “passed on Mack was in fact based on an opinion, and you will will not convince me that it was not made to be critical of the Packers organization.

Perhaps, I should put it another way which I think might be closer to the situation... I would like to buy a new truck to replace the aging Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie that I bought new in 2008. Right now... I simply do not have the money to buy the new 3/4 ton truck I would like to replace it with. I am not “passing” on buying a new truck... I simply do not have the capability to do it right now. I do not believe that Packers had the capacity to get Mack. The Bears did.
 
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