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[GleefulGary]

It is amazing to see HaHa get PFF respect, and suddenly Wimm likes him again.

Never saw that one comin.

 

[Ceodore]

Per Rob Demovsky, Montgomery said he's always told to keep kickoffs in the end zone but he was worried he might be too close to the goal line.

Rubbish! He was literally standing on the goal line on the kickoff. If you back up to catch the ball, guess what? You're in the end zone.

In Ty's defense I'm sure they're taught to kind of run "into" the catch so their momentum is going forward and fall forward in case they drop the ball. Looked to me by the time he completes that "coming forward" motion he was mildly close to the goal line.

At this point, after hearing Ty's comments I've changed my tune a little bit. The situation has become a little he-said-he-said with the anonymous player only thinking his anger carried over. I can buy Ty's rationale here a little bit, although still a bonehead move. And if you take into consideration that he's a smart player and, as far as we know, has always been a team guy up to this point. I think maybe he's earned the benefit of the doubt.

As a side note, how sick are people for making threats on him and his family, as he's claimed. I get that you have to have thick skin to play in the NFL, but that's not right. Sure 99.99999999% of the threats are nothing, but it only takes one lunatic to make good on them, as we've seen in other current events lately.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Do you honestly think Gute doesn't know what a return game can mean to a football team? IMO, if Cobb could stay healthy, he was perfectly fine to have as your return man. and kick returns, if anybody is keeping a roster spot just for a kick returner these days, they're stupid. If hester is back there, I just kick it thru the endzone every time. and NFL kickers can do it.

Yet we are 26th and 27th in the league on average yards per kickoff (19.9 yds) and punt (5.4 yds) return. Yes, I would contend that the positions were an after thought.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

For anyone who is buying into Ty's contention that he wasn't 100% sure he was in the endzone, I have a bridge for sale. Come on man! This isn't the first time Monty has returned a kick. If his head is in the game, he knows just how critical it is to follow the coaches instructions to get a touchback in anyway possible and thus conserving the 2 minute warning and giving #12 the ball at the 25 yd line.....not the 19 or less due to a penalty.

I would have had more respect for the guy if he had just let the kickoff hit thinking it would travel out of the enzone, even if had taken an odd bounce and recovered by the Rams.

 

[SoonerPack]

Anyone making threats towards 88 or his family are pathetic. Plain and simple. I can't imagine how sad your life would have to be to stoop to something that low?

As to the fumble: this should cost him his job. I think 88 is a super nice guy and wish him nothing but the best but his best needs to be achieved in a different uniform. He showed some flashes the year prior to the full-time switch to RB but since that point has done nothing but underwhelm and get injured. This league is about production and dependability. He hasn't brought much of either to the table for a few years now and I for one am ready to move on. Again, this is nothing personal nor does it have anything to do with the alleged tantrum on the sidelines minutes before the fumble. This is a production decision and the fact is he hasn't done enough to justify sticking around any longer.

 

[pacmaniac]

Any takers for Montgomery?

Any takers for MM?

 

[PackinMSP]

What about Vic Beasley Jr???

I honestly haven't lost faith in HaHa, but he needs a GOOD safety to compliment him to be successful IMO.

He's a lot like Darren Sharper in that sense, he'll make a lot of interceptions and plays but can't lead or direct a secondary.

Bell is good and the modern day Marshall Faulk/Ladanian Tomlinson/etc but we don't need him.

We really just need a pass rusher

 

[Darth Garfunkel]

Just Devils advocate. .

If Ty was so pissed off b4 the ko, was it even thought of.l. That The fumble was on purpose?

He made a boneheaded decision but I can't imagine him jeopardizing his entire career in some petty tantrum like that.

Then again, who hasn't been tempted to flip their desk at work and head out the door with middle fingers flying...

 

[Mondio]

Yet we are 26th and 27th in the league on average yards per kickoff (19.9 yds) and punt (5.4 yds) return. Yes, I would contend that the positions were an after thought.

I"m sure he's aware we need to find another tackle in the future, at least one guard, some edge rushers and safeties too. All more important than a kick returner. I'm not sure Davis is worth a roster spot just to return punts. I'd rather st. Brown be active and get some snaps on gameday for experience than de-activate him and have a guy like Davis. who if you want to use the stats, was a good returner. A case where I think the stats lie personally as he wasn't that good, just had some decent ones he broke. Factor in boneheaded stuff...anyway

I'm sure he realizes the importance of a return game, punts anyway. And I still think if Cobb was healthy, he's good enough.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

I"m sure he's aware we need to find another tackle in the future, at least one guard, some edge rushers and safeties too. All more important than a kick returner. I'm not sure Davis is worth a roster spot just to return punts. I'd rather st. Brown be active and get some snaps on gameday for experience than de-activate him and have a guy like Davis. who if you want to use the stats, was a good returner. A case where I think the stats lie personally as he wasn't that good, just had some decent ones he broke. Factor in boneheaded stuff...anyway

I'm sure he realizes the importance of a return game, punts anyway. And I still think if Cobb was healthy, he's good enough.

If Davis were to be added to the active roster, I imagine J'Mon Moore might be a likely casualty. It could certainly affect St. Brown in that he's not on the 46 man on gameday.

Montgomery probably isn't going anywhere this season, recent blunder not-withstanding.

 

[Mondio]

Jmon wasn't active this past sunday I don't think

Oh, I think you were talking about the 53 roster. Got it. yeah, he might be, but if he gets over his drops I think he's going to be good too. They'll probably want to give him time for that.

I don't want to see St. Brown or J'mon be inactive so we can have Davis return punts. at least one of those guys is going to be in our future at WR, I don't see much of an impact from davis this year and I don't see him in our future either. Taking game day experience away from either of those just for a better punt return average maybe isn't worth it for this year or the future.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Just read Ty Montgomery received death threats on Twitter ?? If that is true, it's disgusting

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Just read Ty Montgomery received death threats on Twitter ?? If that is true, it's disgusting

Disgusting yes. Surprising? Sadly no...

 

[gbgary]

as stunned and pizzed off as i was i can't agree with cutting him...yet. i know there was a lot of talk in the off-season about accountability but releasing him now could be detrimental as far as another team picking him up and picking his brain on the Packers O. trade him to someone who's not on our upcoming schedule...fine. i think i'd rather just put him at the bottom of the depth chart, not use him, and let it ride for a while.

 

[Mondio]

as stunned and pizzed off as i was i can't agree with cutting him...yet. i know there was a lot of talk in the off-season about accountability but releasing him now could be detrimental as far as another team picking him up and picking his brain on the Packers O. trade him to someone who's not on our upcoming schedule...fine. i think i'd rather just put him at the bottom of the depth chart, not use him, and let it ride for a while.

That's about where I am at.

 

[PackinMSP]

That is obviously the thinking...

Imagine if the Bears or Vikings picked up T Mont???

He's not going to be resigned anyway, just let him sit at the bottom.

 

[PackinMSP]

Speaking of all this ...

Ty is a SMART guy I assume as he went to Stanford.

He is making $720k or about $45k PER GAME (before taxes)... This doesn't even include his bonus money


How selfish can you be to make a play that JEOPARDIZES YOUR TEAM when you're getting paid to play a GD game?!?!??

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Just read Ty Montgomery received death threats on Twitter ?? If that is true, it's disgusting

What the heck is the matter with some people?

A death threat over a fumble?......Some folks need a little perspective.

Reminds me of the idiot(s) who killed Dan Devine's dog.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I'd be quite surprised if it happened, but not totally shocked given precedent:

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As one may recall, Bostick's job on that play was to block, clearing room for somebody else to recover the ball. He didn't get cut until a month later and it was the offseason with a different optic. Also, Montgomery has been a key contributor in the past while Bostick was always on the bubble regardless.

Without even considering the player and nature of the mistake, do you really want to send a messge to the locker room, in the middle of a season, to bench and St players, that a mental mistake in the spur of the moment gets you fired? That might not be the best message. Actually, it seems like a pretty bad idea, at least for the time being.

One thing we can be sure of. Montogomery will not be back in Green Bay next year as he hits free agency, whether he Packers would want him or not:

https://www.12up.com/posts/6209597-...amily-has-received-threats-after-packers-loss

The well is poisoned. And some of the posters in this thread need to ask themselves if they haven't themselves added a grain of that cyanide to the water..

 

[C-Lee]

He’s available for trade, according to Rapaport

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

That is obviously the thinking...

Imagine if the Bears or Vikings picked up T Mont???

He's not going to be resigned anyway, just let him sit at the bottom.

Worse still if he was picked up by either and returned a KO for TD ?

 

[Alex]

Wow. The Score is showing the Texans got Demaryius Thomas and a 7th for a 4th and 7th round picks...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just read Ty Montgomery received death threats on Twitter ?? If that is true, it's disgusting

Yup truly disgusting and not making excuses for such activity, but in today's age of online crap....people are threatening to kill people over a lot lesser stuff. Not saying its OK to do it, but just the way of the world right now.

as stunned and pizzed off as i was i can't agree with cutting him...yet. i know there was a lot of talk in the off-season about accountability but releasing him now could be detrimental as far as another team picking him up and picking his brain on the Packers O. trade him to someone who's not on our upcoming schedule...fine. i think i'd rather just put him at the bottom of the depth chart, not use him, and let it ride for a while.

I'd be quite surprised if it happened, but not totally shocked given precedent:

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As one may recall, Bostick's job on that play was to block, clearing room for somebody else to recover the ball. He didn't get cut until a month later and it was the offseason with a different optic. Also, Montgomery has been a key contributor in the past while Bostick was always on the bubble regardless.

Without even considering the player and nature of the mistake, do you really want to send a messge to the locker room, in the middle of a season, to bench and St players, that a mental mistake in the spur of the moment gets you fired? That might not be the best message. Actually, it seems like a pretty bad idea, at least for the time being.


The well is poisoned. And some of the posters in this thread need to ask themselves if they haven't themselves added a grain of that cyanide to the water..

As a fan, I really could care less what they do with Montgomery, although I prefer he is cut. However, as a teammate, I would have a different opinion. After hearing on the radio yesterday that there were quiet a few unidentified Packer players angry as hell at Monty for what he did, I think you do more damage for team chemistry by not cutting him then by just benching him.

Bostick is a good example, but remember, he never played again for the Packers. So the timing of his cut really isn't as relevant.

My choice would be to trade him today, but they would be lucky to get a 7th for him. After that, cut him on Saturday so the Pats can't use him, but they can use the roster space for someone else.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Wow. The Score is showing the Texans got Demaryius Thomas and a 7th for a 4th and 7th round picks...

I wouldn't have wanted that deal. Thomas is due $14M (base salary) next year and if people are pissed about Cobb being overpaid......watch out!

 

[C-Lee]

Golden Tate to the Eagles