The Mike Pettine era may soon be over

[Do7]

Are u ready for a jinx lol

YOU BETTER NOT!!!!

 

[rodell330]

Im a bit sad as I think Pettine did a good job for what he had to work with, which was a bunch of TT bums.

Also Rodell with all this insider information you should call into some local Sports stations in WI.

Well I have a feeling that if JMac is hired, Gute and Murphy will pitch the ideal of not only retaining Pettine ? But the offensive line coach Campen as well. However that’s all it would be...I don’t think they are going to force him to keep either guy especially since it seems as tho he has already hand picked assistants. You guys will be happy to hear that at least Zook won’t be back. Just a little nugget tho...if Pettine isn’t retained? I’m also hearing about the possibility of a reunion with him, and Campen on a Mike McCarthy staff. Be on the lookout for that.

 

[Poppa San]

... You guys will be happy to hear that at least Zook won’t be back. Just a little nugget tho...if Pettine isn’t retained? I’m also hearing about the possibility of a reunion with him, and Campen on a Mike McCarthy staff. Be on the lookout for that.

Pettine back in Cleveland? Radio shows in that town will explode.

 

[rodell330]

Pettine back in Cleveland? Radio shows in that town will explode.

Who said anything about Cleveland???

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Who said anything about Cleveland???

While not official, seems like the hottest rumor mill is that MM is going to Cleveland. Granted the Jets are tabbing him right now it sounds like.

 

[sschind]

And the “Fire McDaniels” thread would be the fastest fire a coach thread in forum history

My guess is he has it queued up and is just waiting to hit the post button

 

[rodell330]

While not official, seems like the hottest rumor mill is that MM is going to Cleveland. Granted the Jets are tabbing him right now it sounds like.

They won’t hire MM and here is why. He isn’t their first choice, nor does his offenseive scheme fit the direction their trying to go with Mayfield. Which is a wide open almost spread type of offense. They have a young exciting QB who they don’t want don’t want to hinder but installing McCarthys boring easy to defense scheme. You know who they do want tho? Eric Benemy who would bring that wide open offense To Cleveland kinda like they run with Mahomes who has a lot of the same skill set as Mayfield. They are trying to be fun and **** on offense, not running a scheme from 2004.

 

[pizzle]

I believe that if the packers hire McDaniels-we are done as a legitimate franchise again for another 20 years. Things have been bad lately but they will get ugly and fast if that guy is our HC. I just don't get it. You fire a MM just to interview Adam friggin Gase and McDaniels is the leading candidate?!?!?

That is idiocracy. For one, Gase and McDaniels look like infants compared to even MM when it comes to resumes. IDC if AR bailed out MM alot starting in 2010, MM deserves to get at least some credit for his development alone. Let alone game preparation. On top of that, the word has been that Aaron and Mike's relationship grew toxic at the end. So you bring in a guy like a Gase who openly has had issues with players/traded away good players he didn't want to play anymore. He just looks like a smug ******* every time I've watched him on TV. And McDaniels, the guy that got ran out of Denver and has never won anything unless it was Tom Brady under center for him.

This can't be real. The only coach it sounds like we're going to/have interviewed so far that I like is Flores. Why Eric Bieniemy hasn't been offered the job already is why I have little confidence in Mark Murphy or Gute at this point. If you all really think McDaniels is the answer then it's really over. Smh...

 

[sschind]

They won’t hire MM and here is why. He isn’t their first choice, nor does his offenseive scheme fit the direction their trying to go with Mayfield. Which is a wide open almost spread type of offense. They have a young exciting QB who they don’t want don’t want to hinder but installing McCarthys boring easy to defense scheme. You know who they do want tho? Eric Benemy who would bring that wide open offense To Cleveland kinda like they run with Mahomes who has a lot of the same skill set as Mayfield. They are trying to be fun and **** on offense, not running a scheme from 2004.

Dorsey and Bieniemy do have the KC connection. He may have been Reid's man but I'm sure Dorsey had no objections. I can also see them wanting to go more in that direction with Mayfield. I think a lot of people may overestimating the McCarthy/Wolf/Highsmith connection. Just because they worked together doesn't mean they agree with each other's philosophy and I don't recall reading where MM was decidedly behind Wolf in his efforts to land the Packers GM job.

 

[rodell330]

I believe that if the packers hire McDaniels-we are done as a legitimate franchise again for another 20 years. Things have been bad lately but they will get ugly and fast if that guy is our HC. I just don't get it. You fire a MM just to interview Adam friggin Case and McDaniels is the leading candidate?!?!?

That is idiocracy. For one, Gase and McDaniels look like infants compared to even MM when it comes to resumes. IDC if AR bailed out MM alot starting in 2010, MM deserves to get at least some credit for his development alone. Let alone game preparation. On top of that, the word has been that Aaron and Mike's relationship grew toxic at the end. So you bring in a guy like a Gase who openly has had issues with players/traded away good players he didn't want to play anymore. He just looks like a smug ******* every time I've watched him on TV. And McDaniels, the guy that got ran out of Denver and has never won anything unless it was Tom Brady under center for him.

This can't be real. The only coach it sounds like we're going to/have interviewed so far that I like is Flores. Why Eric Bieniemy hasn't been offered the job already is why I have little confidence in Mark Murphy or Gute at this point. If you all really think McDaniels is the answer then it's really over. Smh...

So I’m going to argue against your point that the only time McDaniels has won is with Tom Brady? Uhh so has B.B....just like how MM was a losing OC with the 32 ranked offense before he inherited Favre AND Rodgers! Two future 1st ballot HOF Quarterbacks! You almost make it sound like Rodgers is chop liver and he can’t help McDaniels duplicate the success he has had in NE with Brady. Smh

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I believe that if the packers hire McDaniels-we are done as a legitimate franchise again for another 20 years. Things have been bad lately but they will get ugly and fast if that guy is our HC. I just don't get it. You fire a MM just to interview Adam friggin Case and McDaniels is the leading candidate?!?!?

That is idiocracy. For one, Gase and McDaniels look like infants compared to even MM when it comes to resumes. IDC if AR bailed out MM alot starting in 2010, MM deserves to get at least some credit for his development alone. Let alone game preparation. On top of that, the word has been that Aaron and Mike's relationship grew toxic at the end. So you bring in a guy like a Gase who openly has had issues with players/traded away good players he didn't want to play anymore. He just looks like a smug ******* every time I've watched him on TV. And McDaniels, the guy that got ran out of Denver and has never won anything unless it was Tom Brady under center for him.

This can't be real. The only coach it sounds like we're going to/have interviewed so far that I like is Flores. Why Eric Bieniemy hasn't been offered the job already is why I have little confidence in Mark Murphy or Gute at this point. If you all really think McDaniels is the answer then it's really over. Smh...

I wasn't aware we interviewed Gase, but I would certainly be adamantly opposed to hiring him. He actually has done well as an OC but pretty much blew any chance of ever becoming a HC again imo. McDufus's problem is he's incapable of developing young receivers or creating a scheme that can keep defenses off balance.

You go with an Eric Bieniemy, Ken Whisenhunt, Jimbo Fisher, or Pete Carmichael and you got experience plus aggressive creativity that keeps defenses guessing.

 

[rodell330]

I wasn't aware we interviewed Gase, but I would certainly be adamantly opposed to hiring him. He actually has done well as an OC but pretty much blew any chance of ever becoming a HC again imo. McDufus's problem is he's incapable of developing young receivers or creating a scheme that can keep defenses off balance.

You go with an Eric Bieniemy, Ken Whisenhunt, Jimbo Fisher, or Pete Carmichael and you got experience plus aggressive creativity that keeps defenses guessing.

So you think Ken Whisenhunt and Jimbo Fisher, and Pete Carmichael are better options that McDaniels? No way in heck, dude.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

So you think Ken Whisenhunt and Jimbo Fisher, and Pete Carmichael are better options that McDaniels? No way in heck, dude.

Sure they are, at least none of them had players turning on them the way McDufus did.

 

[rmontro]

I wasn't aware we interviewed Gase.

Supposedly we're interviewing him Sunday.

 

[pizzle]

For the sake of not derailing the thread-it would be a shame if MP isn't retained. I think considering the circumstances he did a good job. He showed me enough to warrant retaining him-but we'll see I guess...

 

[Snoops]

I see @PackerfaninCarolina disagrees with this post stating your preference.

PFIC care to enlighten us who Snoops actually wants?

I want **** rexy lmao!!!

 

[Snoops]

If they brought in Ryan, pettine would stay.. lol good defense then haha

 

[7thFloorRA]

Rodgers' body would last all of about 1 quarter running that Mahomes offense. If you can watch Mahomes and seriously tell me that Rodgers can do that then you are seeing something I am not. Rodgers can move pretty well but Mahomes is about half a step from getting buried and he outruns everyone and chucks it. Rodgers is at least a full step behind Mahomes speed wise meaning he will get his *** planted routinely running that stuff at this point in his career.

I like McDaniels because he has been able to work with whatever BB gives him for players and make it work every single year regardless of who is hurt. He has done some of his best work with an AGING qb. I would like him to keep Pettine but this defense still has 2 glaring problems aside from talent. They can't/won't tackle and the defensive backs don't get their head around and cover blindly. Spags and Nolan also run a 4-3 IIRC so that could mean alot of roster turnover again to get the kind of players they need.

 

[pizzle]

Rodgers' body would last all of about 1 quarter running that Mahomes offense. If you can watch Mahomes and seriously tell me that Rodgers can do that then you are seeing something I am not. Rodgers can move pretty well but Mahomes is about half a step from getting buried and he outruns everyone and chucks it. Rodgers is at least a full step behind Mahomes speed wise meaning he will get his *** planted routinely running that stuff at this point in his career.

I like McDaniels because he has been able to work with whatever BB gives him for players and make it work every single year regardless of who is hurt. He has done some of his best work with an AGING qb. I would like him to keep Pettine but this defense still has 2 glaring problems aside from talent. They can't/won't tackle and the defensive backs don't get their head around and cover blindly. Spags and Nolan also run a 4-3 IIRC so that could mean alot of roster turnover again to get the kind of players they need.

The plays you are referring to with Mahomes are clearly when the playcall was set up for him to take an intermediate to deep shot down the field, and due to the coverage Mahomes is avoiding a sack. Sure Aaron prolly isn't fast like Pat now but that has essentially been GB's bulk of offensive production lately. The true focal point of the "Mahomes" offense is Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy utilizing shallow crossers/man-beating deep throwing concepts and quick passes to keep defenses off-balance when paired with a savvy, eye-candy laced run/screen-game. Aaron running that offense would rejuvenate him, not hinder him...

 

[rodell330]

Rodgers' body would last all of about 1 quarter running that Mahomes offense. If you can watch Mahomes and seriously tell me that Rodgers can do that then you are seeing something I am not. Rodgers can move pretty well but Mahomes is about half a step from getting buried and he outruns everyone and chucks it. Rodgers is at least a full step behind Mahomes speed wise meaning he will get his *** planted routinely running that stuff at this point in his career.

I like McDaniels because he has been able to work with whatever BB gives him for players and make it work every single year regardless of who is hurt. He has done some of his best work with an AGING qb. I would like him to keep Pettine but this defense still has 2 glaring problems aside from talent. They can't/won't tackle and the defensive backs don't get their head around and cover blindly. Spags and Nolan also run a 4-3 IIRC so that could mean alot of roster turnover again to get the kind of players they need.

MLB Burks/Morrison
ROLB Dee Ford FREE AGENCY
LOLB Blake Martinez /Fackrell

DE Nick Perry
DT Kenny Clark
DT ED Oliver ROOKIE
DE Mike Daniels

RCB Jaire Alexander
LCB Kevin King
SS Tyran Matthieu
FS Breshaud Breeland/Josh Jackson

I think this group could have success running a 4-3 as early as next year if they did switch.

 

[HardRightEdge]

There is a factor that may take the decision above the HC pay grade: how much guaranteed money is there in Pettine's contract?

I wouldn't expect it to be prohibitive, but the idea you give a HC carte blanch on the entire coaching staff can be an expensive proposition.

 

[pizzle]

There is a factor that may take the decision above the HC pay grade: how much guaranteed money is there in Pettine's contract?

I wouldn't expect it to be prohibitive, but the idea you give a HC carte blanch on the entire coaching staff can be an expensive proposition.

TBH, if the deal sealer/breaker on someone taking the Packers' HC job is predicated on accepting that Pettine has to stay on due to his contract being so substantial business-wise I'd be fine. The candidates I feel are right for the gig shouldn't have to have an issue with that anyways. The only candidates that might not jive with that (McDaniels, Gase) I hate as our new HC so that'd be wonderful if a tidbit like that kept them away.

 

[Snoops]

Rodgers' body would last all of about 1 quarter running that Mahomes offense. If you can watch Mahomes and seriously tell me that Rodgers can do that then you are seeing something I am not. Rodgers can move pretty well but Mahomes is about half a step from getting buried and he outruns everyone and chucks it. Rodgers is at least a full step behind Mahomes speed wise meaning he will get his *** planted routinely running that stuff at this point in his career.

I like McDaniels because he has been able to work with whatever BB gives him for players and make it work every single year regardless of who is hurt. He has done some of his best work with an AGING qb. I would like him to keep Pettine but this defense still has 2 glaring problems aside from talent. They can't/won't tackle and the defensive backs don't get their head around and cover blindly. Spags and Nolan also run a 4-3 IIRC so that could mean alot of roster turnover again to get the kind of players they need.

Mahomes is better than Rodgers dude is only gonna get better too...

 

[Snoops]

MLB Burks/Morrison
ROLB Dee Ford FREE AGENCY
LOLB Blake Martinez /Fackrell

DE Nick Perry
DT Kenny Clark
DT ED Oliver ROOKIE
DE Mike Daniels

RCB Jaire Alexander
LCB Kevin King
SS Tyran Matthieu
FS Breshaud Breeland/Josh Jackson

I think this group could have success running a 4-3 as early as next year if they did switch.

I like a few things in there if burks and Morrison are our only mlbs that’s a serious problem I would love to get dee ford I doubt he leaves tho.. cj Mosley would be a great lb to have too I doubt we sign Mathieu although I’m all for it breeland I hope stays he is the only Cb that actually did stuff with Alexander Jackson laid a goose egg this yr. and king sucks!! I think our whole defense blows lol like I know Martinez can tackle good but the other lbs blow! Fackrell maybe had 2 good games his whole career hopefully he can play good next yr I’d like to see if Wilkerson will be good to go next yr and give him a whirl again. Clark Daniels and Alexander are the only good players on defense Martinez is okay I’d be okay with him bein the number 2 mlb they need someone even better than him. Nick Perry ****** me off so bad the dude is made off glass and effed our cap cuz we can’t do anything with him. They need a complete overhaul on defense and not hold on to 2nd round draft picks for 3 yrs or more and hope to turn out 2 yrs would be my max king would be a perfect example dude can’t stay healthy and gets abused. Offense we should keep Cobb true slot guy and like Rodgers said they are better with him. We need another good receiver tho a veteran preferably MVS is gonna be decent I think st brown okay for depth j mon Moore has stone hands and no business on the team Trevor Davis does nothing for the offense he can be cut g mo can go too better veterans than him.. we need a better line for sure... protect Rodgers is number 1 especially with him getting older I would invest heavily into a better line Graham I dont think should be hated on as much as he has he barely got the ball yeah he dropped some big ones but he is better than any other free agent that will be out there.. rb is good jones is a BeASt and Williams is a good thunder back a 3rd guy would be nice too.. so a better O line a veteran receiver and basically a complete overhaul on defense and we are good! Lol this all my imo so it’s fine if u agree or disagree.. just dont fool urself

 

[Do7]

Mahomes is better than Rodgers dude is only gonna get better too...

He's having a better year. But to say he's better? Waaaay to early to make that statement. Did you mean that he was the better of the two this year?