The Amari Rodgers Thread

[PikeBadger]

Nerves?

Yeah, you read the post before mine?

 

[Spanky]

Hey - Amari Rodgers caught a pass! It only took the complete decimation of the receiving corps through injuries.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Hey - Amari Rodgers caught a pass! It only took the complete decimation of the receiving corps through injuries.

Yeah my first reaction was "Who WAS that?" Watson, Watkins, and Cobb all out. And it wasn't a very good group to start. Does Gluten try to make a trade? Are there any losing teams, other than the Raiders, he could trade with? I don't know but it seems like something needs to be done.

Someone else said it, but Watson is looking like Kevin King 2.0. When he's not injured, he has two routes- the jet sweeping "go long", neither is very effective. Can the guy not run other routes?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Amari Rodgers has been a disappointment obviously but the guy gets far too much attention just because Gute placed all his receiver hopes and dreams into a third round draft pick. The fact that the guy is still on the team should lead more people to look at WHY he's still on the team, because the receiver room is so busted that a guy who has literally shown no ability to do anything positive on the football team is still here! The focus of Gute on every position except receiver has lead fans to believe a third round, 2nd year receiver MUST produce because he's the only guy fans can hope for.

Gute has spent nine picks on top-100 offensive players over the past 4 seasons and, out of those nine picks, we can count on Jenkins as a very good player, Josh Myers as an average player, and the other 7 as m'eh. Outside of the top-100 I would count Runyan as a very good player and Doubs as a potentially good player. This offense has some very good players who are being paid very highly and that means a lot of the other starters need to be impact rookies who can help out those few, highly paid guys. Those players don't exist on this roster. The Packers can't go out and sign some non-rookie receiver because they've spent quite a bit at LT, QB, RB, OLB, DT, CB, and DE. Gute did a good job of finding impact rookie-contract players for many years but the last three drafts have been pretty much empty of truly impactful players (I'm still holding out hope for Stokes at CB but he's looked much worse this season than last). People still believe Gute is a terrific GM but go back and look at the last three drafts and the best player drafted is probably Jon Runyan. I'm not writing off the players drafted in the last two drafts yet, that would be ridiculous, but when a team is built like the Packers are, the GM MUST find rookies than can contribute in meaningful ways in their first couple of seasons. All of that being said, the last impactful receiving option (TE or WR) the Packers actually drafted was fifth round pick MVS in 2018. Let that sink in. People are shocked the offense is having issues but the team has added ZERO young talent at receiver or TE since 2018. For those that disagree, I simply present to you the 2022 Green Bay Packers offense.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Amari Rodgers has been a disappointment obviously but the guy gets far too much attention just because Gute placed all his receiver hopes and dreams into a third round draft pick. The fact that the guy is still on the team should lead more people to look at WHY he's still on the team, because the receiver room is so busted that a guy who has literally shown no ability to do anything positive on the football team is still here! The focus of Gute on every position except receiver has lead fans to believe a third round, 2nd year receiver MUST produce because he's the only guy fans can hope for.

Gute has spent nine picks on top-100 offensive players over the past 4 seasons and, out of those nine picks, we can count on Jenkins as a very good player, Josh Myers as an average player, and the other 7 as m'eh. Outside of the top-100 I would count Runyan as a very good player and Doubs as a potentially good player. This offense has some very good players who are being paid very highly and that means a lot of the other starters need to be impact rookies who can help out those few, highly paid guys. Those players don't exist on this roster. The Packers can't go out and sign some non-rookie receiver because they've spent quite a bit at LT, QB, RB, OLB, DT, CB, and DE. Gute did a good job of finding impact rookie-contract players for many years but the last three drafts have been pretty much empty of truly impactful players (I'm still holding out hope for Stokes at CB but he's looked much worse this season than last). People still believe Gute is a terrific GM but go back and look at the last three drafts and the best player drafted is probably Jon Runyan. I'm not writing off the players drafted in the last two drafts yet, that would be ridiculous, but when a team is built like the Packers are, the GM MUST find rookies than can contribute in meaningful ways in their first couple of seasons. All of that being said, the last impactful receiving option (TE or WR) the Packers actually drafted was fifth round pick MVS in 2018. Let that sink in. People are shocked the offense is having issues but the team has added ZERO young talent at receiver or TE since 2018. For those that disagree, I simply present to you the 2022 Green Bay Packers offense.

Spot on. The Packers could have had Tee Higgins instead of burning a 4th round pick to move up and draft an extremely pedestrian Jordan Love. Just one example where the Packer GM was spending more picks on the D, way more, than the O. The Jordan Love pick was Gluten 1) trying to make his mark at QB as Wolf and TT has done and 2) drastically underestimating the talent Rodgers still had.

And what was Gluten thinking? That Rodgers was good enough to elevate any receiver? That doesn't follow from drafting Jordan Love.

I'm not ready to panic, yet. But it's irritating to see how teams like the Eagles get built, or even the Cowboys and Vikings. Hell even the Jets and Giants are legit. Watson is Kevin King 2.0. Eventually it all comes due, and that seems to be what's happening.

Now Gluten is probably forced to give up draft capital for a WR, and maybe a RT. And how will he pay for them? Not a lotta cap in GB.

 

[milani]

Hey - Amari Rodgers caught a pass! It only took the complete decimation of the receiving corps through injuries.

It seemed like a preseason game. They put him out there to get some reps.

 

[Heyjoe4]

It seemed like a preseason game. They put him out there to get some reps.

Agreed. That game looked like a PS game without any camp work prior. Awful.

 

[Magooch]

Really pretty much at a loss at this point as to what the case is for keeping this guy around. A few weeks back he was both a non-factor on offense and special teams. Now he remains a non-factor on offense and is actively a liability on special teams.

At this point I simply cannot believe there is any professional football team who is employing a scouting network that is incapable of finding a better option for his role. Really continues to feel like one of those situations where he is being kept solely for the draft capital that was invested in him in the first place (which was of course not that much in the first place)

 

[Sanguine camper]

Keeping Rodgers around sends the wrong message to the team. You can screw up and cost the team critical points with no accountability. He needs to be cut to make room for a free agent WR. While the season is looking like a complete debacle, Gute and MLF need to start showing some control over the sinking ship. Another move is that Stenovich needs to be put back as o line coach. Promoting him to offensive coordinator was a classic example of the Peter principle. There's a lot of blame to go around but it starts with Gute, MLF and players who consistently screw up like Rodgers and Newman.

 

[tynimiller]

All the injuries is the only reason they may keep him...if everyone was healthy I think he would already be packing today. Shoot Kylin Hill I've heard may be good this week to go - he did well in KR...see what he can do at PR too.

 

[Mondio]

He's lost control of the ball in every single game he's played this year, yesterday it cost points at a critical time.

 

[tynimiller]

He's lost control of the ball in every single game he's played this year, yesterday it cost points at a critical time.

Wait, I feel like there was one game he did well outside of calling for a fair catch too many times....man that is sad even if my memory is right that is 6 of 7 games he has done that!

 

[Heyjoe4]

Wait, I feel like there was one game he did well outside of calling for a fair catch too many times....man that is sad even if my memory is right that is 6 of 7 games he has done that!

Rodgers looks to me like he just doesn't care anymore, win or lose, lose, lose. And MLF seems to have lost the team. It's too early to say MLF was overrated. He deserves a chance to coach a team w/o a savior like Rodgers.

But Rodgers isn't a savior anymore, at least not this year.

 

[tynimiller]

Rodgers looks to me like he just doesn't care anymore, win or lose, lose, lose. And MLF seems to have lost the team. It's too early to say he was overrated. He deserves a chance to coach a team w/o a savior like Rodgers.

But Rodgers isn't a savior anymore, at least not this year.

I am with you on all of it except that bolded bit...I feel like that is overreacting a bit. The sad part is I understand where the reaction is coming from which is sad in and of itself.

 

[tynimiller]

Honestly, I'd call Jaguars and see if they want to match up their QB with one of his old weapons in Amari. Trade for Jamal Agnew who is their 4th or 5th best, but has some return experience - we test him out if nothing then cut.

 

[gopkrs]

I dislike the playcalling on offense (defense too. How many passes in the flat for big gains b4 the coach realizes someone has to be covering that area or the guy coming out of the backfield?) but it is difficult to know who is the culprit on offense. Rodgers or LaFleur? Is LaFleur's offensive plan to throw to the flat so much? Cause that not only is boring but it sucks as a plan.

 

[gopkrs]

Honestly, I'd call Jaguars and see if they want to match up their QB with one of his old weapons in Amari. Trade for Jamal Agnew who is their 4th or 5th best, but has some return experience - we test him out if nothing then cut.

I would like to try Nixon. Don't see how he could drop the ball more than Amari.

 

[tynimiller]

I would like to try Nixon. Don't see how he could drop the ball more than Amari.

Oh if Amari is gone I fully expect Nixon or Hill to be our PR....outside chance to Watson, Toure or even Doubs (doubt it)

 

[Schultz]

Amari is a way below average punt returner. Possibly because of his draft position they are trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Color me crazy but I actually thought he looked okay at WR. He had a nice catch and run for a 1st down and Rodgers should have hit him for a TD when he correctly broke deep on a Rodgers scramble.

 

[tynimiller]

Amari is a way below average punt returner. Possibly because of his draft position they are trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Color me crazy but I actually thought he looked okay at WR. He had a nice catch and run for a 1st down and Rodgers should have hit him for a TD when he correctly broke deep on a Rodgers scramble.

Amari WHEN he has the ball secured is above average with it worst case...he did run some solid routes on Sunday and that deep scramble play he nearly came up with a miracle catch on the overthrow.

 

[Mondio]

how is a ball that hits you squarely in the hands a "miracle catch"? because he had to stretch out for it? It's the NFL, catch it. Guys make those catches every week for their QB's.

 

[tynimiller]

how is a ball that hits you squarely in the hands a "miracle catch"? because he had to stretch out for it? It's the NFL, catch it. Guys make those catches every week for their QB's.

He truly needed to launch himself if he was going to haul that in without merely using finger tips which at that distance and speed is VERY tough to pull off.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I am with you on all of it except that bolded bit...I feel like that is overreacting a bit. The sad part is I understand where the reaction is coming from which is sad in and of itself.

Yeah you’re probably right. We can’t beat on him at the first signs of a season going south. I think we all feel let down, expecting another great year.

Ty what are your thoughts on trading for a quality WR before the Nov 1 deadline?

 

[OldSchool101]

Keeping Rodgers around sends the wrong message to the team. You can screw up and cost the team critical points with no accountability. He needs to be cut to make room for a free agent WR. While the season is looking like a complete debacle, Gute and MLF need to start showing some control over the sinking ship. Another move is that Stenovich needs to be put back as o line coach. Promoting him to offensive coordinator was a classic example of the Peter principle. There's a lot of blame to go around but it starts with Gute, MLF and players who consistently screw up like Rodgers and Newman.

You know. You remind me that we went through this similar situation when MM took over play calling.
It was a mess, just like this one.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Amari is a way below average punt returner. Possibly because of his draft position they are trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Color me crazy but I actually thought he looked okay at WR. He had a nice catch and run for a 1st down and Rodgers should have hit him for a TD when he correctly broke deep on a Rodgers scramble.

Agree. He’s much better at WR. Still not saying a lot.zz