Taysom Hill

[Mondio]

I would be floored if anyone paid a 1st round pick for the right to sign him to a lucrative contract. Absolutely flabbergasted. That would be one of the stupider things I've seen in quite a while.

Come on Chicago, don't disappoint us

 

[GleefulGary]

Get a pick out of him? That is a guarantee if they wanted to go that route, its just a matter of what round.

I also don't think its necessarily the Saints organization that is really creating all the buzz, its the media and Hill himself. Of course Hill is going to say that he is a franchise QB, it pays a hell of a lot more than a backup QB and Swiss Army knife. The media is feeding on it, because it actually is an interesting story, as well its a slow off season thus far. Here is a guy that has lots of skills, but really hasn't shown enough as a QB, to be paid starter money and handed the keys to any franchise, but what do the Saints do with him?

He reminds me a bit of Kordell Stewart when he played for the Steelers. Good skills at a number of things, but really not a starting QB.

I think the Saints just might put a first round tag on him and if they do, a team picking 23 (Patriots) or later just might grab him. That tag will cost the Saints a bit over $6M if nobody tries to grab Hill, but considering what he does for the team, probably worth it. If they lose him, a late first round pick for a guy you picked up off waivers isn't bad either.

The guy had 455 yards TOTAL for the year. Considering what he does for the team?

Like I said, he's a good gadget player. He's also going to be 30, historically injury prone, and even in college was never considered a good passer. The "outrage" on Hill is getting out of hand.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

LOL.....the people passing Hill off as a nothing burger obviously haven't watched him, read anything that Saints fans, teammates, coaches or the media are saying about the guy. Even other teams and their fans are seeing it. Are you guys just butt sore because the Packers cut the guy and he has become a valuable tool for the Saints?

 

[Dantés]

LOL.....the people passing Hill off as a nothing burger obviously haven't watched him, read anything that Saints fans, teammates, coaches or the media are saying about the guy. Even other teams and their fans are seeing it. Are you guys just butt sore because the Packers cut the guy and he has become a valuable tool for the Saints?

I haven't seen anyone say he's nothing. I have seen people say he's a good gadget player and people who think he can be more. I obviously fall in that first camp.

Are you just butt sore that there are people who disagree with you about this player?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Are you just butt sore that there are people who disagree with you about this player?

I could care less that you or anyone else disagrees with me. I just find it funny that there are a few of you that don't see what most of the Football world is talking about. I will agree with you that a team thinking he is a franchise QB, might want to back off the wishful thinking. However, despite his age, if the Packers could use him like the Saints do, I would give up our second rounder for him. First rounder, might be a stretch, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a team at the back end of the first round does try to grab him for that.

 

[Dantés]

I could care less that you or anyone else disagrees with me. I just find it funny that there are a few of you that don't see what most of the Football world is talking about. I will agree with you that a team thinking he is a franchise QB, might want to back off the wishful thinking. However, despite his age, if the Packers could use him like the Saints do, I would give up our second rounder for him. First rounder, might be a stretch, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a team at the back end of the first round does try to grab him for that.

You're acting as though there's this single opinion out there in the "football world" that agrees with you. Yes, there is a lot of hype around him from some; there is some skepticism from others. I fall more into that latter camp.

When you factor his limited role in any offense (it's going to be tough to find a better situation for him than New Orleans with Payton), his age, his injury history, and his contract status, I just find it really hard to believe that someone pays up a 1st round pick for him. I hope they don't! I don't want to see a powerful NFC rival get stronger because someone decides to be stupid. I would be surprised if they got a 2nd even.

You're talking about giving up a premium pick for a 30 year old, RFA gadget player who believes himself to be a franchise QB. What are you going to do after 2020 when he's a UFA and wants to get a shot under center AND get paid like it? Are you going to pay 20+M (pretty modest starting QB money) for a 31 year old trick play specialist?

Or are you going to franchise tag him? At what position? He's always been listed at QB so it would be hard to make the case that his tag should be WR or RB. The QB tag number is 26M. Even the WR and RB numbers are 18 and 12 respectively-- still a LOT to be paying a gadget guy.

Or the other alternative is to let him walk and try to find work as a QB, in which case you've traded a 1st or 2nd round pick for one season of service.

None of it makes any sense to me. He's an impressive athlete and his plays are unconventional and therefore very exciting, but his production is still modest. Unless someone thinks they have a full time position for him, he's a limited player.

 

[Mondio]

If we gave up a 2nd rounder I’d be pissed. When it’s 3rd and short or in the redzone I still don’t want him taking the ball out of Rodgers hands.

 

[GleefulGary]

LOL.....the people passing Hill off as a nothing burger obviously haven't watched him, read anything that Saints fans, teammates, coaches or the media are saying about the guy. Even other teams and their fans are seeing it. Are you guys just butt sore because the Packers cut the guy and he has become a valuable tool for the Saints?

Who are the people calling him a "nothing burger"?

 

[OldSchool101]

What’s scary Right now. He’d be the our #2QB our #1 TE Maybe our #1 ILB too! (Don’t even get me started on ST)

 

[Sky King]

I could care less that you or anyone else disagrees with me. I just find it funny that there are a few of you that don't see what most of the Football world is talking about. I will agree with you that a team thinking he is a franchise QB, might want to back off the wishful thinking. However, despite his age, if the Packers could use him like the Saints do, I would give up our second rounder for him. First rounder, might be a stretch, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a team at the back end of the first round does try to grab him for that.

Compared to Brees he's still young. Thirty probably does not seem old to the Saints and their fans considering what they're used to.

 

[OldSchool101]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...tion-can-he-really-be-a-franchise-quarterback

Good article covering Hill

 

[Pugger]

Hill making noises he wants to be the full time QB or released.

He might not get what he wants if he is released...

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Fair enough. But if the Saints retain Hill over Bridgewater going forward how will that affect your rationale?

The Saints might be forced to let Bridgewater walk away in free agency because of a lack of cap space. I highly doubt they will keep Hill as the primary backup to Brees though.

However, despite his age, if the Packers could use him like the Saints do, I would give up our second rounder for him. First rounder, might be a stretch, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a team at the back end of the first round does try to grab him for that.

I have to strongly disagree with you on that. It would be a huge mistake to give up a second rounder, let alone the 30th pick, to acquire Hill.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I have to strongly disagree with you on that. It would be a huge mistake to give up a second rounder, let alone the 30th pick, to acquire Hill.

I said IF Hill fit into the Packers offense, I could see the Packers using the 62nd pick to obtain Hill. Much worse has happened with Picks by the Packers in that spot in recent years. I just don't think he is a fit for their offense, as well as the fact that they have more pressing needs for that pick.

As far as the 30th pick, I said it would be a stretch for a team to give up a first round pick and in no way supported the Packers doing it. There has been talk about Hill potentially getting that first round tender and all I said was basically "I doubt it happens, but it wouldn't shock me if a team at the back end of the first round, tried to grab him from the Saints."

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I said IF Hill fit into the Packers offense, I could see the Packers using the 62nd pick to obtain Hill. Much worse has happened with Picks by the Packers in that spot in recent years. I just don't think he is a fit for their offense, as well as the fact that they have more pressing needs for that pick.

In my opinion Hill isn't a fit for the Packers offense because he isn't all that good to begin with and therefore definitely not worth giving up a second rounder for him.

 

[Pugger]

The Saints might be forced to let Bridgewater walk away in free agency because of a lack of cap space. I highly doubt they will keep Hill as the primary backup to Brees though.



I have to strongly disagree with you on that. It would be a huge mistake to give up a second rounder, let alone the 30th pick, to acquire Hill.

Would Bridgewater be a possible option for us instead if NO let him walk instead of Hill?

 

[Mondio]

Would Bridgewater be a possible option for us instead if NO let him walk instead of Hill?

He's likely to get 10+ million a year. that money needs to go to RT, DL, ILB, TE, for this team.

 

[Dantés]

He's likely to get 10+ million a year. that money needs to go to RT, DL, ILB, TE, for this team.

The most recent rumors are that he could command up to 30M.

 

[Mondio]

The most recent rumors are that he could command up to 30M.

I will not be surprised at all if he was in real money in the mid 20's per year. QB money is getting out of hand, we'll see if it continues and it goes into the 30's. I don't think he's worth that at all, but that doesn't mean he might not get it.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The most recent rumors are that he could command up to 30M.

Teams would be absolutely foolish to offer Bridgewater that kind of money. It's possible one of them will go for it though.

 

[swhitset]

Teams would be absolutely foolish to offer Bridgewater that kind of money. It's possible one of them will go for it though.

While I agree with everything you said, i would not be surprised at all to see him get something near 20 million from someone.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Bridgewater wants a starting job, as well as to be paid like a starter. While I don't see any team giving him a base salary of $30M, I can see $20M + incentives. I see him going to the LA Chargers, but my real hope is that the Bears foolishly sign him for that $30M.

 

[Pugger]

Bridgewater wants a starting job, as well as to be paid like a starter. While I don't see any team giving him a base salary of $30M, I can see $20M + incentives. I see him going to San Diego, but my real hope is that the Bears foolishly sign him for that $30M.

Do the Bears have that kind of cap space? I'd rather they stick with Mitch.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Do the Bears have that kind of cap space? I'd rather they stick with Mitch.

Sure, with some cuts they would. Anytime I can see a division rival make a bad move, I am very pleased. I was saying that the Bears should sign Teddy tongue in cheek, but you never know. The Bears have a big decision coming up with Turd Biscuit on his 5th year option. It would cost them over $24M in 2021 and with the up and down 3 years that he has had, I think its anyone's guess as to if they exercise it or not.

 

[Dantés]

Teams would be absolutely foolish to offer Bridgewater that kind of money. It's possible one of them will go for it though.

I could imagine a team with absurd amounts of cap space offering him a ton of money on a shorter term deal just to make sure they get him and get a chance to see if he is in fact a franchise QB. Certain teams have so much room that they're going to have a hard time using it.