Studs n duds Niners playoffs

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah Rodgers was winding up to throw to a double-covered Adams. If he just held on and waited, he could have hit the open Lazard.

Did you look at the rush on Rodgers? Wait for Lazard? Does he tell the 9'er pass rushers "hold up 2 seconds, got a guy getting free".

 

[BrokenArrow]

that's the best way to beat any team. Other than trying to force that one into double coverage near the end to Adams, I don't think Rodgers really made too many mistakes. A lesser QB would have had 3,4+ turnovers between fumbles and INT's last night. All things considered, it certainly wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. Likely better than most of you seem to be giving credit for.

Rodgers had a chance to dramatically increase the chances of us winning if he had made the ONE throw at the end that most good high school QBs would have made. The "lesser" QB made the plays in crunch time that our "greater" QB failed to make due to his predictable laser vision on #17.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

if he had made the ONE throw at the end that most good high school QBs would have made.

LOL....comparing Rodgers to a High School QB should disqualify anything you say about the subject.

 

[Mondio]

LOL....comparing Rodgers to a High School QB should disqualify anything you say about the subject.

It did. Won’t be reading any more drivel

 

[pacmaniac]

Did you look at the rush on Rodgers? Wait for Lazard? Does he tell the 9'er pass rushers "hold up 2 seconds, got a guy getting free".

Lazard is breaking free here and the 9ers rush still hadn't gotten to Rodgers yet:

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Lazard is breaking free here and the 9ers rush still hadn't gotten to Rodgers yet:

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Do you see the ball in the air? Rodgers already threw the ball and when he did, Lazard had just made his break.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I don't see how any one says EQ was open if they have any idea what route he's running in the concept of that play.

The safety was zeroed in on Adams from the snap. It was double-coverage from the start. He never even looked at ESB. Rodgers has been around long enough to see ESB was beating his man. But he's too dependent on his security blanket. If ESB and Adams had simply traded jersey it probably would have been 6 points. But if the roles had been reversed and it was ESB who was double-covered in the middle, you'd be screaming about how open Adams was.

 

[pacmaniac]

Do you see the ball in the air? Rodgers already threw the ball and when he did, Lazard had just made his break.

That was my point. Rodgers decided to throw to Adams in double coverage instead of waiting for someone else to get free.

 

[tynimiller]

Do you see the ball in the air? Rodgers already threw the ball and when he did, Lazard had just made his break.

Rodgers himself brought up this missing of Lazard.

 

[Mondio]

Rodgers himself brought up this missing of Lazard.

He could have held it and hit lazard, yes.

Or had the pressure gone like it had all night he could have been sacked, hit and fumbled or any other number of bad things.

The only reason you, him or us can say anything now is because it already happened and he likely could have held it rather than sling it.

But I’m the scope of THAT play, Lazard wasn’t open either until the ball is being thrown somewhere else.

 

[swhitset]

He could have held it and hit lazard, yes.

Or had the pressure gone like it had all night he could have been sacked, hit and fumbled or any other number of bad things.

The only reason you, him or us can say anything now is because it already happened and he likely could have held it rather than sling it.

But I’m the scope of THAT play, Lazard wasn’t open either until the ball is being thrown somewhere else.

You aren’t wrong… but the bottom line is that Rodgers chose a 40 yard pass into double coverage on 3rd down when a first down was desperately needed. I will never be convinced that that was a good decision.

 

[sschind]

You ever say anything and regret?

I have never said anything that I ever regretted saying.


Oh crap, I wish I hadn't said that.

I wonder if losing Dillon hurt us more than we realize? We HAVE to find a better #2 WR than MVS or Lazard.

That was kind of the key to it for me. I love Jones but we need Dillon and his power. I think if Dillon doesn't go out we gain a few more first downs and win the game. I agree on the #2 WR thing too even though MVS is a great WR.

as if the Pack didn't come to play? The 9ers' have as good of front 7 in football as you'll find. most teams getting pressured like that all night end up getting their ***** kicked, the field was long and the yards tough. Points were hard to come by but they were able to get some things going.

it was a tough game on BOTH sides. people don't think GB came to play? They matched their intensity throughout. Field position, Tackles and special teams were the difference. Well, special teams were the difference. End of story. Even with the rest, this team came to play and should have won.

its no coincidence Shanahan said this was a game where they felt they had the advantage on special teams.

Yeah, MLF sucked. He had 3 weeks to prepare for this game. It is a damning statement on his competence to have 3 weeks to prepare for this moment and look this unprepared and get outcoached in a playoff game again.

Matt is starting to look like a modern day Marty Schottenheimer.

how did he have three weeks to prepare for a team he didn't know he was going to play until last week?

Funny/Sad thing too about that final FG, the 10 Packers out there seemed to assume they couldn't block it, even with the season on the line. Compare their effort with the 49'ers effort when they blocked a non-game winning attempted field goal. Pathetic coaching of those special teams units is all I can draw from that.

"Hey I counted 10 guys, oh hell, it won't matter anyway, we never could block a FG?"

2 blocked FGs in one game are exceedingly rare. They had history against em'

Many have pointed out the ongoing issue with the Packer offense. They run into a team with a really good front 7, one that can stuff the run and put consistent pressure on Rodgers. What happens? Rodgers tends to go to the only receiver on the team that is worth much, Davante Adams. Lazard was the only other WR with a catch last night, 1 for 6 yards. While Jimmy G didn't light up the Packers secondary, he actually was able to spread the ball around and find open guys when he needed to.

I used to blame TT for not addressing the WR and TE positions, now it is on Gute. He has had plenty of time to fix it through the draft or free agency and has failed to this point.

So yes, Rodgers should be spreading the ball around, but honestly, I don't think he has enough talent outside of Adams to do that.

How long have you and I been agreeing on this? Since Jennings left probably, and its gone steadily down hill. To play devils advocate however why invest in a player your QB won't throw to anyway?

Yes and no. While I agree that Lazard isn't really an NFL starter on most NFL teams.

Randall Cobb, Lewis, and ESB were playing last night. Eventually enough is enough and AR just has to be able to find other guys when he NEEDS to.

Should there be more talent at the WR position? Hell yeah, I would have luved Fuller on this team last year.

But it's not like we didn't have Cobb, Lewis or ESB last night...

I though ESB was cut


just trying to lighten the mood.


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In New England, outside of the Moss/Welker era and now Gronk, who did Tom Brady have????

Thanks

Nobody knows who they were but Tom still threw them a shit ton of passes

In other words, the 49'ers have a coach that works hard at trying to find the weaknesses of the other teams ST's units? Their ST coordinator must have raised the table he was sitting at 4-6" or so when he started watching Drayton's units on film.

was he the neighbor you spoke of in your post in the thread where you talked about watching **** until you neighbors put up drapes.

Maybe this offseason we should focus on getting a receiving corps that's better top to bottom through the draft and free agency if we do find some way to keep Rodgers and most of the current roster intact?

I am not sure if just letting Adams and 1 or 2 other main players leave (along with most of the current receivers) would solve our cap problems this year though, plus some of the money would have to be spent on the new receivers.

I would only say we should do this if we are not looking at a major rebuild and/or Rodgers stays.

they would have a tough time building a better WR corps from top to bottom if they let Adams leave but since Lazard is the only WR currently under contract for 2022 (I think) we may get to find out.

EQ wasn't open at any point in that play until the ball was long gone. he was running thru a zone, not a target at that point and running right to a a defender. The only time he comes open the ball is gone. yes Lazard comes open, as Rodgers is winding up to toss a 40+ yard ball in frigid temps. I don't see how any one says EQ was open if they have any idea what route he's running in the concept of that play.

its easy to pick out wide open guys once the play is committed to. The defenders probably saw it too.

Do you see the ball in the air? Rodgers already threw the ball and when he did, Lazard had just made his break.

Doesn't Rodgers have the ball on a string so he can pull it back. I think the Globetrotters used to do that and they won all the time.



Captain is going to have a field day with this one. If he doesn't have a stroke that is.

 

[tripleguy]

I agree on the #2 WR thing too even though MVS is a great WR.

MVS is like a Ferrari you have in the garage. Take it out, drive it fast and take it to the mechanic for repair. Rinse, repeat. Just like a better version of ESB they both seem to always be hurt. We have the wrong St Brown brother.

Where was Cobb all night? Once we were out of the 1st quarter, we struggled to get a first down. Could have used Cobb for some underneath routes to at least keep the chains moving.

 

[Mondio]

You aren’t wrong… but the bottom line is that Rodgers chose a 40 yard pass into double coverage on 3rd down when a first down was desperately needed. I will never be convinced that that was a good decision.

I’m not convincing anyone it was, or even trying. There weren’t a whole lot of other decisions to make on that play. It was sling it and give him a chance, I think it was a bit desperate, or hold it for lazard and see what happens. With the pressure he’d had all night I can’t blame him much for not.

 

[AKCheese]

The doghouse is really stupid. Mercedes never got thrown to again and after Deguara's drop; Rodgers did not even look at him. I suppose if he was on the other side; Kittle would never have gotten another pass thrown to him in the game. But no, there was nothing in the past that led me to believe ARod would spread it around. He sure should though. In every game.

Just being Arrogant Rodgers at his finest… reciever drops one Rodgers freezes him… Rodgers misses a throw or makes a poor one “hey… I’m Arrogant Rodgers… i’m allowed”…. Look at the box score… only Daffny got more than one target, he got two… wrap your mind around that… seriously. That’s Arrogant Rodgers saying “hey me and Vante got this, we don’t need ANYbody else”…. God i really hope this was the last dance with this clown

 

[Mondio]

Where was Cobb all night? Once we were out of the 1st quarter, we struggled to get a first down. Could have used Cobb for some underneath routes to at least keep the chains moving.

They were sitting on all that underneath stuff and playing downhill fast. They knew we couldn’t protect well enough for them to even respect anything longer , again. And once Dillon went out they limited the runs. For some reason they didn’t trust Taylor with the ball. I happen to think they should have kept right on pounding with Jones and P. Taylor and stuck with it more.

 

[PackAttack12]

the awareness by Brady to NOT take the sack is huge for sure...

lol....anyone watching Bucs/Rams?

As close to perfect conditions as you could ask and Brady is struggling big time. It's just what happens when you're under constant pressure, guys aren't separating, etc.

And it's not 0 degrees.

 

[Team Ronny]

Rams looking pretty tough..at least til that play. I don't think Rodgers would beat them again.

 

[Mondio]

The rams want to hand it back though

 

[PackAttack12]

Oh for the love of God they roll coverage away from Mike Evans giving him a 1 on 1 and Brady connects, then the Rams fumble. lmao......UNREAL

 

[Half Empty]

27-3 turns into 27-20 after Brady passes for just over 50% and 230 yards, 0 TD and and INT in the first 3 1/2 quarters. and now...

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Studs: Defense, Dillon until he got banged up, Adams

Duds: 12, Drayton, Wirtles and Bojorquez

 

[Team Ronny]

Kinda thinking Rodgers isn't the guy Lafleur would prefer to run his offense..maybe Love has only run Rodgers version of Lafleurs offense. I think the version he will run is more in line with Shanahans offense.

 

[jdizz81]

Honestly, losing Dillon was the difference in the game. Jones just doesn't have the ability to run it down people's throats like AJ.

We lost AJ on a special teams play

 

[PackAttack12]

I'll never understand how teams **** the bed against Brady year after year by doing some of the dumbest **** ever.