Rollins done for the year...

[rodell330]

Torn Achilles. I think it's time they really consider bringing in Cromartie or Reevis. Now corner like o-line is extremely thin.

 

[kevans74]

Rollins is done?

Isn't this a good thing technically??

I mean I feel bad that Quinton is hurt and all as I never wish injury/hurt on another human being, especially not a professional athlete

BUT...

FINALLY maybe they can bring a vet who has PAST SUCCESS in the NFL to teach King and Randall...

I don't give a damn what Revis' 40 time is now but he "knows" how to play man to man corner and the tips/secrets/stance/etc that will help these young guys

 

[Mondio]

Im surprised Rodell didn't put this in the optimism thread

 

[brandon2348]

Good. Rollins is a bust. The basketball experiment comes to an end.

 

[rodell330]

Im surprised Rodell didn't put this in the optimism thread

Oh I liked a post that mentioned his time in Green Bay may be officially over

 

[gbgary]

Good. Rollins is a bust. The basketball experiment comes to an end.

you mean A basketball experiment comes to an end. there's still one more on the practice squad, 6' 7" wr michael clark, who everyone loved in preseason.

 

[XPack]

I read he had Achilles injury, but can't find article which says he'll be out for full season. Any links?

Did we place him on IR (despite not being a season ending injury) simply to get Joe in without moving Rodgers out?

 

[brandon2348]

I read he had Achilles injury, but can't find article which says he'll be out for full season. Any links?
Did we place him on IR (despite not being a season ending injury) simply to get Joe in without moving Rodgers out?

Rodgers is having surgery so not sure he will be able to come back in 8 week timeline dedicated to IR. Not sure why they wouldn't IR Rodgers at some point here real soon.

 

[JK64]

Another TT bust.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Torn Achilles. I think it's time they really consider bringing in Cromartie or Reevis. Now corner like o-line is extremely thin.

I wouldn't waste the cap on a rent-a-player under the circumstances.

 

[kevans74]

I wouldn't waste the cap on a rent-a-player under the circumstances.

I think the general "thought" is you have Revis or Cromartie come in to MENTOR King and Randall for a season... or am I wrong?

 

[sjb12681]

This may be unpopular, but I say let's roll with what we have right now. If a guy is seriously hurt, I.R. him, and go scout p.s. rosters for talent at c.b., r.b. and some depth at oline and lb.

Put them out there, coach em up each week, and look for building blocks.

If we roll out what we had this week again, this season is over. Use this time to scout players for the future.

I'm not saying tank, but if ever there was time to give some players extra reps, now's the Time.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Rodgers is having surgery so not sure he will be able to come back in 8 week timeline dedicated to IR. Not sure why they wouldn't IR Rodgers at some point here real soon.

They will consider IR when either (1) it's certain he will not be able to play at any time before February or (2) the Packers are eliminated from playoff contention. Not before then.

 

[kevans74]

This may be unpopular, but I say let's roll with what we have right now. If a guy is seriously hurt, I.R. him, and go scout p.s. rosters for talent at c.b., r.b. and some depth at oline and lb.

Put them out there, coach em up each week, and look for building blocks.

If we roll out what we had this week again, this season is over. Use this time to scout players for the future.

I'm not saying tank, but if ever there was time to give some players extra reps, now's the Time.

I wouldn't purposely tank as you have a relatively young roster... you don't want to instill "losing ways/mentality" and you also don't want to just "give up" on Hundley

 

[HardRightEdge]

I think the general "thought" is you have Revis or Cromartie come in to MENTOR King and Randall for a season... or am I wrong?

I don't think you pay that kind of money for an assistant CB coach.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I wouldn't purposely tank as you have a relatively young roster... you don't want to instill "losing ways/mentality" and you also don't want to just "give up" on Hundley

There's a difference between tanking and simply not taking some temporary costly measure that's not likely to make a critical difference anyway.

 

[kevans74]

I don't think you pay that kind of money for an assistant CB coach.

I mean it's not like he'll be out there with the other CBs or anything if he gets signed? Right?

So I wouldn't call Revis/Cromartie an "assistant CB coach" with a signing

 

[brandon2348]

They will consider IR when either (1) it certain he will not be able to play at any time before February or (2) the Packers are eliminated from playoff contention. Not before then.

Sounds like a 10-12 week recovery time from what I am hearing which would make him available sometime between seasons end to first playoff game. So unless Packers get eliminated from playoffs they don't IR him?

 

[HardRightEdge]

I mean it's not like he'll be out there with the other CBs or anything if he gets signed? Right?

So I wouldn't call Revis/Cromartie an "assistant CB coach" with a signing

You're not making the playoffs, so an assistant coach is what you get out of the season.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Sounds like a 10-12 week recovery time from what I am hearing which would make him available sometime between seasons end to first playoff game. So unless Packers get eliminated from playoffs they don't IR him?

Why would you? But it's not like it will hang in the balance until week 17.

 

[swhitset]

They will consider IR when either (1) it's certain he will not be able to play at any time before February or (2) the Packers are eliminated from playoff contention. Not before then.

I may not understand the IR rules completely.... but why not? A team can bring back up to two players from IR. Unless the rules have changed I believe they must be on the list for 8 weeks before they can be on the active list.... So I would think the sooner they IR him the better.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I may not understand the IR rules completely.... but why not? A team can bring back up to two players from IR. Unless the rules have changed I believe they must be on the list for 8 weeks before they can be on the active list.... So I would think the sooner they IR him the better.

First, you can't practice while on IR so you're probably looking at 9 weeks minimum. And if you're looking at 9 weeks minimum, since the Packers are an unduly optimistic bunch when it comes to injuries, why not hold out for a miraculous 7 or 8 week return. They are doing that right now as McCarthy stated a decision will not be made until after the surgery which is not yet scheduled, which could take you to 10 weeks. If they IR him at that point with a 10 week return, he ain't coming back. In short, like us, they know that 9 or 10 weeks will kill any playoff hopes at which point no chance will be taken on reinjury.

Something tells me surgery on the throwing shoulder makes the whole matter moot anyway despite McCarthy's guarded optimism.

This is crushingly unfortunate with implications that may reach beyond this season. It's possible he'll never throw quite the same way again. When a guy can flick a 40 yard rope off his back foot, there are finely tuned mechanics at work that no doctor can explain. The slightest alteration in shoulder flexibility or motion when all is said and done could force a change in mechanics. I don't mean to be alarmist, but I'm reminded of Carson Palmer suffering an elbow tear that did not require surgery, missing 11 weeks, and then never quite regaining his velocity. And some believe that injury occurred as a result of altered mechanics following an ACL. Still a good QB, but not what he was before.

Or consider Tramon Williams. He broke a collarbone, suffered nerve damage and wasn't quite the same after that. Still decent, but not the same.

We'll see what happens over the coming weeks, months, year.

 

[swhitset]

First, you can't practice while on IR so you're probably looking at 9 weeks minimum. And if you're looking at 9 weeks minimum, since the Packers are an unduly optimistic bunch when it comes to injuries, why not hold out for a miraculous 7 or 8 week return. They are doing that right now as McCarthy stated a decision will not be made until after the surgery which is not yet scheduled, which could take you to 10 weeks. If they IR him at that point with a 10 week return, he ain't coming back. In short, like us, they know that 9 or 10 weeks will kill any playoff hopes at which point no chance will be taken on reinjury.

Something tells me surgery on the throwing shoulder makes the whole matter moot anyway despite McCarthy's guarded optimism.

This is crushingly unfortunate with implications that may reach beyond this season. It's possible he'll never throw quite the same way again. When a guy can flick a 40 yard rope off his back foot, there are finely tuned mechanics at work that no doctor can explain. The slightest alteration in shoulder flexibility or motion when all is said and done could force a change in mechanics. I don't mean to be alarmist, but I'm reminded of Carson Palmer suffering an elbow tear that did not require surgery, missing 11 weeks, and then never quite regaining his velocity. And some believe that injury occurred as a result of altered mechanics following an ACL. Still a good QB, but not what he was before.

We'll see what happens over the coming weeks, months, year.

Actually a player may practice after having been on the list for 6 weeks... they just can't be activated until 8. My only point was.... why not just IR him.... if he can't come back no harm done. If by some miracle he can.... well... again I'm doubting he'll be ready before the limits set forth in the IR rules... so.. again I ask why not? Now it can be noted that I was originally unaware that Rollins has been placed on IR making room for Callahan so it is no longer as critical, but I still wonder why we would not clear the roster spot when there is really no downside to it.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Actually a player may practice after having been on the list for 6 weeks... they just can't be activated until 8. My only point was.... why not just IR him.... if he can't come back no harm done. If by some miracle he can.... well... again I'm doubting he'll be ready before the limits set forth in the IR rules... so.. again I ask why not? Now it can be noted that I was originally unaware that Rollins has been placed on IR making room for Callahan so it is no longer as critical, but I still wonder why we would not clear the roster spot when there is really no downside to it.

Why indeed? Why wait until after the surgery and burn possibly an extra week eligibility? It's because you're not hoping for a miraculous early return which might keep somebody from getting fired or retired.

They must know this is maybe a kinda sorta 5-11 team without Rodgers, probably worse with the other injuries. They would like to see how things develop after the surgery. Wait a couple of weeks to see if there's any chance of an early return. Then, if not, it will be too late and they can shut him down for the year. Waiting 8 weeks, which will be 9 very shortly, is the end of the season and they know it.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Torn Achilles. I think it's time they really consider bringing in Cromartie or Reevis. Now corner like o-line is extremely thin.

I wouldn't mind the Packers trading for Rodgers-Cromartie but Revis struggled for all of last season and it's questionable if he would present an upgrade at this point in his career.

Why indeed? Why wait until after the surgery and burn possibly an extra week eligibility? It's because you're not hoping for a miraculous early return which might keep somebody from getting fired or retired.

They must know this is maybe a kinda sorta 5-11 team without Rodgers, probably worse with the other injuries. They would like to see how things develop after the surgery. Wait a couple of weeks to see if there's any chance of an early return. Then, if not, it will be too late and they can shut him down for the year. Waiting 8 weeks, which will be 9 very shortly, is the end of the season and they know it.

I'm absolutely convinced the Packers are aware that Rodgers won't be back within less than eight weeks. In my opinion there's no reason not to put him on injured reserve before the end of the week.