Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Deleted member 6794]

How would that be conceivable?

AR's '22 cap hit is almost $40Mil, the Smith Bros. cap hit is almost $48Mil, Alexander on his 5th yr. option is over $13Mil AND Davante Adams needs a new contract. Even if the '22 cap makes a larger-than-normal jump to $205Mil AR will still account for over 20%, the Smiths over 23%, Alexander over 6.3%, Bakhtiari's $22+Mil cap hit is 11%, and K. Clark's $20.6Mil is 10% of the cap. Those 6 players = 70% of the cap!! ... and no extension for Adams, yet.

To keep AR in '22 the entire team gets blown-up, and AR will be crying that he's got no offense OR defense.

The Packers are able to create cap space for the 2022 season by pushing cap hits back into future seasons once the cap is expected to skyrocket.

 

[Pkrjones]

The Packers are able to create cap space for the 2022 season by pushing cap hits back into future seasons once the cap is expected to skyrocket.

I understand the "mechanics" of the salary cap...keep pushing money further into the future when the cap might explode. There are elections in 2022 & 2024 (which is when unforeseen catastrophes mysteriously happen to keep the voters in fear) so to expect a cap explosion is wishful thinking by a GM.

To expand on the '22 cap with our top 7 using-up 70% of the cap I'll add the next 3 top-cap users. Amos counts $12Mil (5.8% of the projected $205Mil salary cap), Aaron Jones counts $9Mil (4.4%) as does Billy Turner at 4.4%. Summary for the cap in '22, excluding an extension for D. Adams, is that the top-10 highest paid Packers = 84.6% of the cap!!

It's my opinion that there's no way Rodgers can be part of this equation and keep any semblance of a team around him. I appreciate having him for the last 13 years as our QB but don't believe Gute should make any future guarantees for him IF it means the team implodes after '21.

 

[El Guapo]

So we believe Gute and the Packers when it's convenient, but claim they're lying when it's, again, convenient.

Interesting. I wish I could play black and red that way on roulette.

Believe what you want. I've never told you to listen to them at other times. If you really believe that you can trust what high-ranking people say (in any organization) then I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

[Half Empty]

So we believe Gute and the Packers when it's convenient, but claim they're lying when it's, again, convenient.

Interesting. I wish I could play black and red that way on roulette.

Sort of like the players (or their agents)?

 

[Half Empty]

You sir are not him, and he's already debunked this stuff

First part, wholeheartedly agree, that was the point. Second part, see the post elsewhere in this thread that addresses who we believe under what circumstances.

 

[sschind]

This is why athletes don't like talking to anyone. Hurts tries to answer a question by saying he doesn't think he's guaranteed a job and some ppl ridicule him. Just curious what you think he should have said?

I don't blame them at all. No one is looking out for them. Everyone wants to advance their own agenda and they don't care about anyone else.

What do you think would happen if a superstar QB maybe 32 years old, cashing in on a third contract, said "You know what. I made 100 million dollars on my last contract. More than I will ever be able to spend in mine or my kids lifetimes. I'm going to sign this 5 year deal for 50 million instead of the 200 million going rate so we can build a stronger team". Half the people would've giving him **** for selling out

 

[LetzBreel]

This is why athletes don't like talking to anyone. Hurts tries to answer a question by saying he doesn't think he's guaranteed a job and some ppl ridicule him. Just curious what you think he should have said?

In this instance, you are right sunshine. The money and fame hasn't gone to his head yet. It will eventually or he will be one of the few good guys. My bad.

 

[swhitset]

got a feeling the Packers are going to cave. smh lol

I don’t think we have any idea what that would even look like at this point. If what has been reported is true.. it might not matter what the Packers offer him at this point.... he may have already decided he’s done in Green Bay period. It has been reported that he has been offered an extension. That would have to involve new money and by default lock him in to at least another couple of years. If he declined that .... i’m not sure what else they could offer.

 

[AmishMafia]

I doubt he will ever be gruntled again - at least with the Packers.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

I don’t think we have any idea what that would even look like at this point. If what has been reported is true.. it might not matter what the Packers offer him at this point.... he may have already decided he’s done in Green Bay period. It has been reported that he has been offered an extension. That would have to involve new money and by default lock him in to at least another couple of years. If he declined that .... i’m not sure what else they could offer.

I've seen reports where he was offered an extra $45 mil guaranteed in an EXTENSION (which is what Rodgers allegedly wants). If you turn that down, you just plain don't want to work with that employer anymore.

 

[rmontro]

I've seen reports where he was offered an extra $45 mil guaranteed in an EXTENSION (which is what Rodgers allegedly wants). If you turn that down, you just plain don't want to work with that employer anymore.

That may be. I'm a little surprised that he would want to start over with a new team at his age. Losing four NFCCGs since our last Super Bowl may have worn on him though. I can't believe that this can all be about Love, but Rodgers is known for being prickly. My gut says he wants to stay. If it weren't for Adam Schefter, we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.

 

[swhitset]

That may be. I'm a little surprised that he would want to start over with a new team at his age. Losing four NFCCGs since our last Super Bowl may have worn on him though. I can't believe that this can all be about Love, but Rodgers is known for being prickly. My gut says he wants to stay. If it weren't for Adam Schefter, we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.

I gave this an agree especially because of the last sentence. I have no idea what Rodgers is thinking right now… but I really believe that Schefter created this news to a large extent … and may have actually pushed each side farther apart.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

I gave this an agree especially because of the last sentence. I have no idea what Rodgers is thinking right now… but I really believe that Schefter created this news to a large extent … and may have actually pushed each side farther apart.

I'm not sure what to think. There were some quiet rumblings of a Rodgers trade occurring in 2021-2023 even before the Love pick. They have gradually amped up since then and then Schefter blew the door wide open.

 

[sschind]

There were some quiet rumblings of a Rodgers trade occurring in 2021-2023 even before the Love pick. They have gradually amped up since then and then Schefter blew the door wide open.

Quiet rumblings? Never heard more than fans on sites like this which hardly qualifies as quiet rumblings.

 

[Schultz]

Getting back to does he rally want to start over with a new team. A new offense, a new OC, a new HC, new receivers. Will he hold out? Lavion Bell is a cautionary tale as far as that goes. I think the salary cap issues make it less likely GB caves. They either sign him to some small extension so that he can save face or they trade him.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I understand the "mechanics" of the salary cap...keep pushing money further into the future when the cap might explode. There are elections in 2022 & 2024 (which is when unforeseen catastrophes mysteriously happen to keep the voters in fear) so to expect a cap explosion is wishful thinking by a GM.

The NFL signed new TV deals this offseason which guarantee the salary cap will skyrocket once that money kicks in.

I agree the Packers could afford to put better players around the quarterback without Rodgers counting against the cap in 2022 but in my opinion him being on the team is the only way they would be a legit Super Bowl contender next year.

 

[rmontro]

Getting back to does he rally want to start over with a new team. A new offense, a new OC, a new HC, new receivers. Will he hold out?.

What if he holds out, and they put Love in there and he tears it up? Unlikely, admittedly.

in my opinion him being on the team is the only way they would be a legit Super Bowl contender next year.

Obviously if they traded Rodgers, they'd be kicking that idea of being a legit Super Bowl contender down the road a few years.

 

[OldSchool101]

I agree the Packers could afford to put better players around the quarterback without Rodgers counting against the cap in 2022 but in my opinion him being on the team is the only way they would be a legit Super Bowl contender next year.

I’m not sure that GB would be set back more than one season

Suddenly GB has 60mil over just 2 years freed up from Rodgers by itself. Then the cap could easily take a nice jump to offset some 2022 resigns. Then GB very likely could have 4 1st day picks (2022-2023) + 3 or 4 more second round selections and that doesn’t even touch our normal 12-14 day 3 selections over the next 2 years.
Between a few FA veteran signings snd draft capital alone, We could be just loaded with talent by opening day 2023.

IMO, This MLF system is underestimated in its ability to function in a robust manner without an elite QB. They’d be up to speed very quickly and it’ll surprise some people.

Obviously if they traded Rodgers, they'd be kicking that idea of being a legit Super Bowl contender down the road a few years.

Maybe. But I think we’d be one of those Apt complexes that goes up very quickly, with Possibly 10 day 1-2 draft selections on board by this time 2023. Not to mention being able to retain our very best FA and maybe even add outside veteran help.

MLF is a bigger factor in the recent success of the GBP than many fans think. Give him a butt load of draft capital (he’s obviously been influencing the draft) and he would either remain a contender or be a contender in short order. That was the plan all along before Rodgers 2020 revival.


PS. I’m not lobbying for that as I think Rodgers is hard to replace, but I’m much more confident than most in the ability of MLF after watching his 1st 2 seasons as a HC.

 

[Spanky]

There is a reason James Jones and John Kuhn think the rift can be patched up. Because it can and they're the ones who are talking to Rodgers directly.

Restructure his deal that keeps him in GB for four more years, lower the annual cap hit, and trade for Julio Jones. Win-win.

 

[PikeBadger]

There is a reason James Jones and John Kuhn think the rift can be patched up. Because it can and they're the ones who are talking to Rodgers directly.

Restructure his deal that keeps him in GB for four more years, lower the annual cap hit, and trade for Julio Jones. Win-win.

Like your profile icon. Looks like Spanky.

 

[rmontro]

PS. I’m not lobbying for that as I think Rodgers is hard to replace, but I’m much more confident than most in the ability of MLF after watching his 1st 2 seasons as a HC.

I agree, I'm not throwing in the towel if Rodgers leaves. Other teams don't have Rodgers and they manage. Love might even prove to be a worthy successor, if not a replacement. I trust MLF to build a team up more than I would trust McCarthy.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Obviously if they traded Rodgers, they'd be kicking that idea of being a legit Super Bowl contender down the road a few years.

Agreed, that's the main reason the Packers should try everything in their power to keep Rodgers.

I’m not sure that GB would be set back more than one season

Suddenly GB has 60mil over just 2 years freed up from Rodgers by itself. Then the cap could easily take a nice jump to offset some 2022 resigns. Then GB very likely could have 4 1st day picks (2022-2023) + 3 or 4 more second round selections and that doesn’t even touch our normal 12-14 day 3 selections over the next 2 years.
Between a few FA veteran signings snd draft capital alone, We could be just loaded with talent by opening day 2023.

Teams having an elite quarterback is the main reason for being a legit Super Bowl contender. Once again, I want to use the Raiders as a cautionary tale of putting too much value into huge draft compensation received when trading a star player. They haven't even made the playoffs since getting rid of Mack.

Other teams don't have Rodgers and they manage.

There's a huge difference between being a Super Bowl contender and a team being able to manage success.

 

[Schultz]

You can't resign Rodgers and trade for Julio Jones. Not financially possible. I mean sure, I would like to be dating Miss America while also sleeping with a SI swimsuit model but unfortunately I am going to have to decide between one or the other.

 

[Spanky]

You can't resign Rodgers and trade for Julio Jones. Not financially possible. I mean sure, I would like to be dating Miss America while also sleeping with a SI swimsuit model but unfortunately I am going to have to decide between one or the other.

The Packers absolutely can do both. It would require them to do what many teams do but the Packers generally refuse to do: kick money down the road in a way that pretty much guarantees dead money when the player is gone.

If I was in charge I'd bet everything on the next 3-4 years and worry about the consequences later. There is a small window of Rodgers playing at an MVP level that can get them another 1 or 2 Super Bowls.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Not sure if anyone else posted this Rodgers interview at the Kentucky Derby, so I apologized if its a repeat. I thought it was a good listen and also notice his name badge. LOL....always the clown. Spoiler Alert....there is no Packers or Football mentioned in the interview.

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