Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[pacmaniac]

We were a few plays away from the Super Bowl and thats while missing the best LT in football. Hell if Bakhtiari played we could have consistently rolled help towards Wagner/Turner which would have completely changed the complexion of the game.

Bakhtiari didn't help slow down the pass rush in Week 6.

 

[pacmaniac]

33-48 346 yds 3 TD, at some point people need to stop rewriting history, Aaron Rodgers was not the reason we lost the game. It was a defensive failure, it was and Aaron Jones fumble failure and yes if Rodgers had been perfect we would have won but if you expect your QB to be perfect to win the big game, your team sucks

Not expecting him to be perfect - if he had completed just 1 out of 6 passes on first-and-goal situations inside the 10, instead of completing zero out of 6...

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

You literally just argued that an inactive player was a big boost. I don't even know what to say...

I think he was trying to say his theory is that drafting Love was a boost because it had Rodgers suddenly worrying about being replaced and therefore caused him to play at MVP level. A theory I've heard from many but one I happen to disagree with.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Not expecting him to be perfect - if he had completed just 1 out of 6 passes on first-and-goal situations inside the 10, instead of completing zero out of 6...

I was just mostly bothered by his not running for it when it appeared he could have scored on his own that way. But he said he threw that pass away because he assumed LaFleur was calling that series as if it was 4-down territory. Man if we had only gone for it there and Rodgers completed a TD pass the Rodgers haters would've choked on sandwiches from seeing it.

 

[thequick12]

Not expecting him to be perfect - if he had completed just 1 out of 6 passes on first-and-goal situations inside the 10, instead of completing zero out of 6...

Adams dropped 1 in end zone as I recall

 

[easyk83]

Bakhtiari didn't help slow down the pass rush in Week 6.

Pretty sure he was injured during that game.

 

[longtimefan]

Pretty sure he was injured during that game.

Not full game he played until 3rd?

 

[longtimefan]

I think he was trying to say his theory is that drafting Love was a boost because it had Rodgers suddenly worrying about being replaced and therefore caused him to play at MVP level. A theory I've heard from many but one I happen to disagree with.

But numbers show his production was way up.

Not until he admits it will we know. But on surface it sure looks like it.

And remember..what he told Frisco on draft night..I bet he thought the same. He even smirks when saying I think I throw a wrench into their time line

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

But numbers show his production was way up.

Not until he admits it will we know. But on surface it sure looks like it.

And remember..what he told Frisco on draft night..I bet he thought the same. He even smirks when saying I think I throw a wrench into their time line

Oh I certainly think there are cases like possibly even that where he can get a chip on his shoulder. We obviously witnessed it with R-E-L-A-X and "Run the Table". But some want to say it as if to just ignore other important factors.

I don't think we can discount being more comfortable in year 2 of Matt LaFleur's offense. It isn't just him who has to learn it but everyone else on the offense as well.

I also think we can't discount the improvement of players like MVS who finally got it and made his job easier. All of these played a role and certainly could have been more impactful.than drafting Love.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Insisting a player who would have been active at a position of need would have been more helpful than an inactive player isn't what I would call a stretch, it's more, uhm, reality?

Well the good news, I am 100% sure that the Packers drafted Love not expecting him to contribute anything in 2020, because that would have meant Rodgers probably got hurt, so mission accomplished.

As far as your insistence that anyone besides Love would have served the Packers better and been the winning difference in the NFCCG, you just can't see the forest for the trees can you? Did Gary take the Packers to the SB in 2019? He was a #12 pick and not a QB. I actually agree 100% with Amish, Loves greatest contribution last year might have been influencing Rodgers to step up his game, which if you look at the difference between 2019 and 20, was a big difference. Potentially more than Patrick Queen might have provided. But you can't see that, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[pacmaniac]

Pretty sure he was injured during that game.

The Packers were down 31-10 when he got injured.

 

[thequick12]

The Packers were down 31-10 when he got injured.

Hypothetically the coaches would have devised a better game plan the second time around. And had the left tackle not been injured in practice leading up to the game he would of been a big part of making that improved gamplan successful

 

[DoURant]

I think he was trying to say his theory is that drafting Love was a boost because it had Rodgers suddenly worrying about being replaced and therefore caused him to play at MVP level. A theory I've heard from many but one I happen to disagree with.

The only thing I would like to add to this discussion on Love possibly inspiring Rodgers play, is in the summer after they drafted Love, Aaron said he found something in his mechanics from a few years back after going through film. Now if he looked back because we drafted Love, or did it before the draft, who knows. The fact is, he knew something was off, and corrected it.

 

[DoURant]

In other "BREAKING NEWS" I was in Green Bay yesterday and didn't see Aaron anywhere.... thus proving he wasn't there.

 

[PikeBadger]

Hypothetically the coaches would have devised a better game plan the second time around. And had the left tackle not been injured in practice leading up to the game he would of been a big part of making that improved gamplan successful

Or it could be that Tampa’s defense was an equal match for the Packers offense and our defense and special teams were not as good as Tampa’s offense and special teams.

 

[PikeBadger]

The only thing I would like to add to this discussion on Love possibly inspiring Rodgers play, is in the summer after they drafted Love, Aaron said he found something in his mechanics from a few years back after going through film. Now if he looked back because we drafted Love, or did it before the draft, who knows. The fact is, he knew something was off, and corrected it.

He certainly looked better throwing all of last year. Would’ve thought the QB coach should have brought that to his attention years ago (perhaps he did?).

 

[longtimefan]

Or it could be that Tampa’s defense was an equal match for the Packers offense and our defense and special teams were not as good as Tampa’s offense and special teams.

Our def got 3 straight int?? was that more than Tampa def?
How many points off those int?

Also one player on our def sucked and allowed 7 points

 

[DoURant]

Also one player on our def sucked and allowed 7 points

But was that more on our DC leaving him 1 on 1 with 8 seconds to play in the half, a missed assignment by a Safety or 100% on King? We all could tell King wasn't healthy in that game, and my belief is the blame should be more on (or should it be moron ) the DC. Pettine most likely figured they would do an out to gain a few more yards to get in FG range. I do think King shares some blame, but is getting the short end of the stick.

 

[longtimefan]

But was that more on our DC leaving him 1 on 1 with 8 seconds to play in the half, a missed assignment by a Safety or 100% on King? We all could tell King wasn't healthy in that game, and my belief is the blame should be more on (or should it be moron ) the DC. Pettine most likely figured they would do an out to gain a few more yards to get in FG range. I do think King shares some blame, but is getting the short end of the stick.

king was hurt for a while . I truly believe of they made to sb Tramon Williams would been starter and king back up

 

[Ogsponge]

Not expecting him to be perfect - if he had completed just 1 out of 6 passes on first-and-goal situations inside the 10, instead of completing zero out of 6...

Okay how about the 50 or so chances the defense had to make a play, I mean they did really well the 3 times Brady punted by other than that pretty abysmal, yes Rodgers could have been better, he mad some mistakes, but the indisputable fact is the team let’s Aaron Rodgers down way, way, way more often than he does them

 

[Ogsponge]

now you did it..its frowned upon to mention he was declining and missed throws

lol how quickly you and others forget how you were the ones that came flying to every thread to admonish anyone that had the audacity to criticize the holy trinity of TT, AR, MM. I basically got lych mob’d the first couple years I was here when I had the nerve to point out their flaws

 

[longtimefan]

Some truth?

old article but…

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...fleur-simply-had-enough-of-aaron-rodgers-act/

 

[thequick12]

Or it could be that Tampa’s defense was an equal match for the Packers offense and our defense and special teams were not as good as Tampa’s offense and special teams.

Did you watch the game? The Packers defense was better than the bucs offense. The bucs offense wasn't very good in that game

 

[Do7]

Did you watch the game? The Packers defense was better than the bucs offense. The bucs offense wasn't very good in that game

We missed Bakh in that game. No doubt in mind if he was in the game we would've won.

 

[thequick12]

Some truth?

old article but…

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...fleur-simply-had-enough-of-aaron-rodgers-act/

Well it seems this may not have been true or it is no longer true. Perhaps it was GM Gutekrause, Mark Murphy, and Russ Ball who had grown tired of Rodgers.

Because I just heard Jason Wilde say that MLF would choose Rodgers over Gutekrause. And he said he can say that with "100 % certainty". Coming from the guy who refused to report on the Rodgers thing all off season because Rodgers wouldn't go on the record with him, that means a lot.

He seemed to be inferring that MLF had issue with Gutekrause as well. And would like more input on personel matters than he has been afforded with Gutekrause. And he had seemed to be inferring all off season that there was a problem between Rodgers and the FO