Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

both AJ Hawk and Pat mcafee said they each got multiple texts from people in nfl front offices who said if Rodgers wants to go to their teams, tell him he can have anything he wants.

I have a bridge I would like to sell those two. Besides the fact that both of them love Aaron like a brother, I think that there is a good chance that almost every team, especially NCF and NFC North teams, that want to see this go to the fiery gates of hell.

 

[jhawk008]

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Juicy lil tweet by Adams lol

 

[GB2016]

Wouldn't if be something if AR is traded, Love takes us to a SB victory!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Wouldn't if be something if AR is traded, Love takes us to a SB victory!

Wouldn't it be something if Love was included IN the trade.

I couldn't do that to Love.

 

[tynimiller]

My point is, if we are going to trade Rodgers, the team is not going to be all that good in 2021, so why do we need more cap? So sure, if the deal is the same or better post June 1st, wait and you have more cap flexibility. However, if we get quite a bit more in trade value now, take the full cap hit and make the trade while his market value is highest and don't wait for the next month of drama, teams making other moves and his value bottoming out because of it.

That is a massive assumption there cotton. Yes, I think any betting man or woman on this forum or that call themselves a Packer fan would not at all say we will be a better team with Love under center over Rodgers...however that isn't at all the same as saying this team instantly becomes a mere 4 win team. *Added post edit - the MLF system truly doesn't ask a TON out of a QB except not to be an idiot. I see many of the intangibles in Love as I do in Aaron but they're light years behind them...but we saw the Titans see above average success with Marcus Marriota under center in 2018. While I wouldn't bet we hit more than 10 wins, I would bet we win 12 well before I would say we lose 12 - barring catastrophic type injuries to our roster.

I also personally, do not see his value dropping - he is after all Aaron "FREAKING" Rodgers, arguably the most gifted QB ever when it comes to slinging the ball.

 

[tynimiller]

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Juicy lil tweet by Adams lol

I do NOT at all like the feel this gives me....Davante is the one guy I fear losing should we not figure out a way to keep Aaron.

That said, his freaking tweet could be a message to Gute or a message to Rodgers really - I doubt it is the latter though.

 

[jhawk008]

That is a massive assumption there cotton. Yes, I think any betting man or woman on this forum or that call themselves a Packer fan would not at all say we will be a better team with Love under center over Rodgers...however that isn't at all the same as saying this team instantly becomes a mere 4 win team. *Added post edit - the MLF system truly doesn't ask a TON out of a QB except not to be an idiot. I see many of the intangibles in Love as I do in Aaron but they're light years behind them...but we saw the Titans see above average success with Marcus Marriota under center in 2018. While I wouldn't bet we hit more than 10 wins, I would bet we win 12 well before I would say we lose 12 - barring catastrophic type injuries to our roster.

I also personally, do not see his value dropping - he is after all Aaron "FREAKING" Rodgers, arguably the most gifted QB ever when it comes to slinging the ball.

This guys hasn't seen an NFL field yet, and last competition he faced was in the Mountain West.. Let's let this kid actually see some preseason time before you say ANYTHING about what this team could be. Cause videos like these are the only insights we have into how Love is as a QB right now

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[jhawk008]

I do NOT at all like the feel this gives me....Davante is the one guy I fear losing should we not figure out a way to keep Aaron.

That said, his freaking tweet could be a message to Gute or a message to Rodgers really - I doubt it is the latter though.

It reads 1000% like a message about Rodgers. But it wouldn't be all surprising for Adams to not want to be involved in a rebuild with a young QB who isn't gonna take him where he wants to go (HOF). Such a massive downgrade from a GOAT level QB to a young inexperience QB, and teams would be willing to throw massive $$ at him if he left.

Might also be a way of showing Rodgers some support, as I'm sure he knows ALOT about the FO and team dynamic with AROD that fans and reporters aren't knowledgeable in..... but that's just speculation obviously

 

[Fat Dogs]

Interesting pettiness measurement scale. I'm sure it's well-researched. What if a person only talks to one parent? Or 3 cousins, 2 sisters, and an uncle, but not the parents or brother? How does this scale work? Inquiring minds would like to know.

I agree. Talking to his parents when you don’t know the situation is a little absurd. I think we all forget how humans are wired. The Love pick couldn’t have been the “Be all end all.” It was a build up. Would we be talking about this if Rodgers was in on 4th down and we beat the Bucs? Or if Bostick recovers that onside kick, or if Fitzgerald doesn’t make that ridiculous play? Rodgers is a first ballet hall of famer who has been to one Super Bowl due to a series of unfortunate events. He’s a competitor who’s career is coming to an end. I’m not saying he’s right because none of us know the whole situation but I will say that I’ve had some angry/depressing moments watching these games. I could not imagine living through them non stop for the past 10 years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That is a massive assumption there cotton. Yes, I think any betting man or woman on this forum or that call themselves a Packer fan would not at all say we will be a better team with Love under center over Rodgers...however that isn't at all the same as saying this team instantly becomes a mere 4 win team. *Added post edit - the MLF system truly doesn't ask a TON out of a QB except not to be an idiot. I see many of the intangibles in Love as I do in Aaron but they're light years behind them...but we saw the Titans see above average success with Marcus Marriota under center in 2018. While I wouldn't bet we hit more than 10 wins, I would bet we win 12 well before I would say we lose 12 - barring catastrophic type injuries to our roster.

I also personally, do not see his value dropping - he is after all Aaron "FREAKING" Rodgers, arguably the most gifted QB ever when it comes to slinging the ball.

Rodgers value has already dropped since the draft. Why? a few teams that might have been interested in him filled their need. That could continue to happen with trades and Free agents. Also, now we have no clue what those draft picks are worth that we will get in a trade. If rumors are true, San Fran was offering their #3 pick and more. If we get a 1st rounder from Oakland in 2022 and Rodgers takes them to the AFCCG and loses, we get a 29 in the deal. Also, if this gets messy and the Packers prove Rodgers to be a diva or whatever paints a bad picture, his value drops.

As far as 2021 Season and its success without Rodgers, sadly I disagree with you. We saw what happens when Rodgers doesn't play and someone like Hundley or Kizer step in, it was ugly. Love might eventually be better than either of them, but not this year. I do agree with you though, it might be easier in a MLF offense than a MM offense, but still lots of growing and learning to do. 6-11 best case.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I agree. Talking to his parents when you don’t know the situation is a little absurd. I think we all forget how humans are wired. The Love pick couldn’t have been the “Be all end all.” It was a build up. Would we be talking about this if Rodgers was in on 4th down and we beat the Bucs? Or if Bostick recovers that onside kick, or if Fitzgerald doesn’t make that ridiculous play? Rodgers is a first ballet hall of famer who has been to one Super Bowl due to a series of unfortunate events. He’s a competitor who’s career is coming to an end. I’m not saying he’s right because none of us know the whole situation but I will say that I’ve had some angry/depressing moments watching these games. I could not imagine living through them non stop for the past 10 years.

Your post was a good read and reminded me of just how much has to happen to get into a Super Bowl, yet alone win one. Not only has Rodgers and the Packers been a bit snake bitten and missed a few, they also could have missed the one that he was in if a few plays against the Bears (in either game) go another way, that is how close things are. I really wish people would stop measuring a players success on Super Bowls, because a Super Bowl does not only involve a bit of luck, its a team effort to get there. Unfortunately for Aaron and his teammates, they have fallen short more times than most. Then again, how many teams even make it that far...to fall that short? Those teams technically have fallen a lot farther, since they aren't even seeing the playoffs.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

You're skipping over the part you are not trading for him to be the starter, if we go to Love in 2021, I want three QBs on the roster. Solid chance Lock comes over and is our #3 - but there is value in a rookie deal guy with starting experience (even if it is rough). Add in a better veteran to hold down or share the #2 role. IF you do this trade I strongly hope they get a QB back in the deal even if it is a Lock type situation.

I'd rather trade for a player with a future. If Locke is forced to start, packers would be better with that player who has a future and some free agent QB waiting on the couch.

 

[GleefulGary]

Rodgers value has already dropped since the draft. Why? a few teams that might have been interested in him filled their need. That could continue to happen with trades and Free agents. Also, now we have no clue what those draft picks are worth that we will get in a trade. If rumors are true, San Fran was offering their #3 pick and more. If we get a 1st rounder from Oakland in 2022 and Rodgers takes them to the AFCCG and loses, we get a 29 in the deal. Also, if this gets messy and the Packers prove Rodgers to be a diva or whatever paints a bad picture, his value drops.

As far as 2021 Season and its success without Rodgers, sadly I disagree with you. We saw what happens when Rodgers doesn't play and someone like Hundley or Kizer step in, it was ugly. Love might eventually be better than either of them, but not this year. I do agree with you though, it might be easier in a MLF offense than a MM offense, but still lots of growing and learning to do. 6-11 best case.

The value for an MVP level QB isn’t dropping.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'd rather trade for a player with a future. If Locke is forced to start, packers would be better with that player who has a future and some free agent QB waiting on the couch.

Agreed. I don't want some other teams castoff, under 30, no hope of being a franchise QB, unless he is basically a throw in with all the draft picks. Nor do I want a guy that is under contract for over $5M/year. IF there is no Rodgers, the Love Project moves up a year or 2. Re-stock the cap war chest, load up on high draft picks and shed the dead weight players that won't be here past 2021. Buckle up Packer fans, we may be feeling like......Pre-Mahomes Chief fans for awhile.

 

[Zartan]

I do NOT at all like the feel this gives me....Davante is the one guy I fear losing should we not figure out a way to keep Aaron.

That said, his freaking tweet could be a message to Gute or a message to Rodgers really - I doubt it is the latter though.

I think its a tweet towards AR. The grass isnt greener on the otherside of the fence and going to Denver might not be all it is cracked up to be. AR doesnt realize how good he has it here and the team around him.

 

[Pugger]

I’ve really avoided this so as to not make any “emotional” statements, but I guess here’s how I see it.

This is not a media creation. This is Aaron Rodgers doing what he does. He makes pithy comments, then tries to walk it back, but everybody knows what he’s doing. He’s intelligent. He’s manipulative. And it works, because he’s very good at football. Acting like Rodgers isn’t responsible is just being ignorant.


The Packers are not blameless either. Clearly there were, and possibly are, communication issues.

I have lost a lot of respect for Rodgers. I still believe he plays in GB this next year. GB holds all the leverage, and you don’t hold GB hostage. You cannot set that precedent. Maybe they’ll give him more money and more years, maybe they won’t, but his legacy and history in GB is forever tarnished. GB was good before him. They will be good after him too.

Yup, GB has all the leverage. Rodgers should have realized this with his front row seat in the Favre saga back in the day.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Lord willing it won't come to this, but IF rodgers isn't playing for the Packers next season, I'm really looking forward to all the posters following every loss with,"Well at least we have a great GM who helped build this non-playoff team" or "only win I needed was proving to Rodgers who's really in charge!"

Conversely, if they can repair this, then I'll be on the "glad everyone worked together to figure things out" train.

 

[U.P. Packfan]

Denver is still my leading candidate for a Post - June 1 trade. Stafford got Goff, two firsts and a 3rd.

I think the two firsts and a 3rd were included so Detroit would take Goff. Probably not in total but at least in part.

 

[Ceodore]

If any of this business about Kumerow is true, then I'm really over Rodgers and his petty ***.

 

[jhawk008]

If any of this business about Kumerow is true, then I'm really over Rodgers and his petty ***.

You think his disdain is strictly over Kumerow... or maybe was it because they decided to cut him the day after he praised him. Imagine how lowly the franchise thinks of Rodgers that they won't even keep one of the only guys at the bottom of the depth chart because they'd rather have another scrub instead.

Mahomes, Brady, Brees... hell even Lamar Jackson, each get a say in potential weapons either in FA or in the draft. But *** Rodgers right?.. that's the message the Packers FO has sent for years now

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Actually really like Florio's take on this.

What is (or was) Aaron Rodgers looking for in a new contract? - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)

 

[Ceodore]

You think his disdain is strictly over Kumerow... or maybe was it because they decided to cut him the day after he praised him. Imagine how lowly the franchise thinks of Rodgers that they won't even keep one of the only guys at the bottom of the depth chart because they'd rather have another scrub instead.

Mahomes, Brady, Brees... hell even Lamar Jackson, each get a say in potential weapons either in FA or in the draft. But *** Rodgers right?.. that's the message the Packers FO has sent for years now

Newsflash! Aaron rodgers is not the GM of the green bay packers. What if the FO finds him to be a **** talent evaluator? He's seriously dying on the Jake Kumerow hill? If he wants to make personelle decisions he should join the front office. The idea is to work with your front office, not hold them hostage.

 

[PikeBadger]

If true this had to be leaked by the packers..no way rodgers would want the public to know this

Not necessarily true. Any number of teammates, past and present could have told that story.

 

[rmontro]

That's true but didn't the Tampa defense kind of luck out a bit in that both teams lost their starting left tackle just before each game respectively...

Better to be lucky than good. I swear Tom Brady must have captured a leprechaun somewhere.

Wouldn't it be something if Love was included IN the trade.

What would be even funnier is if Gutekunst was included in the trade.