Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[GreenNGold_81]

I find it funny when people argue about what actually happened. We're not going to know guys, even if a conversation happened regarding trading him it's doubtful the truth will hit the media considering how close GMs hold their cards.

Regarding how petty Arod is, probably 10/10. He doesn't talk to his own parents. Nuff said. That's massively petty.

 

[GleefulGary]

Apologies, appears Trey Wingo and others ran with the they said they were trading him...Rappaport just keeps putting things out there that again have never been confirmed.

A lot of things like this never get confirmed. What has Rapo said that’s been wrong?

 

[tynimiller]

A lot of things like this never get confirmed. What has Rapo said that’s been wrong?

I despise how he states things as 100% fact - when it is all off the record crap. I despise that approach about as much as someone could. The entire media personalities do this however...at one time I wanted to be a journalist but learned quickly facts no longer matter, just getting attention does.

 

[Mondio]

Again, why would Gute have considered trading him after the season? It makes no sense he'd say something like that at all.

as for Favre's revelation? It's the same one all of us had too. After this season Rodgers was potentially expandable if the production didn't match the pay as dead money was gone. It didn't come from Rodger's mouth. It came from Favre's experience as an aging QB and having been replaced. 2 seasons definitely counts as "not much longer".

Considering almost all the greats play somewhere else, it was hardly prophetic about a QB approaching 40 and a couple 25 million dollar a year salaries.

 

[longtimefan]

Word is last draft gute tried to move up to take Jefferson and another wr but didnt work out?

 

[longtimefan]

Aj hawk and pats mcafee said rodgers isnt or wasnt trying to force Gute out

 

[AKCheese]

People are bandying about some HUGE hauls for Rogers in a trade. For a 38 YO QB who performed much better last year than in any of his previous 5... and is s head case...who is going to want a HUGE new deal... I don’t see it. Looking at draft picks only I could see 1 first and a 3rd next year.... maybe a day 2 pick in 2023 based on his performance. GB is looking at Rodgers with perhaps 2 more top 10 years left ... which I think is accurate IF he’s in a really good situation and IF he keeps his head screwed on straight. Not worth a huge haul of draft picks to many GMs who are shrewd enough to have said “good situation” in place. Denver is the only place I see

 

[GleefulGary]

I despise how he states things as 100% fact - when it is all off the record crap. I despise that approach about as much as someone could. The entire media personalities do this however...at one time I wanted to be a journalist but learned quickly facts no longer matter, just getting attention does.

Lol. If you wanted it all on the record, you wouldn’t get any news.

He never says it’s 100% fact. It’s always “this is what I’ve been told”, “this is what my sources have said”. And be assured, reporters like Rapo have great sources and they get multiples.

Like I said earlier, the Packers have confirmed that this is real, and it’s a big deal. I don’t see where Rapo has been wrong yet.

 

[DoURant]

I certainly want him back, but it is obvious he is a little nuts. I hate mommy and daddy, hot *** chicks, and the team that padded his pockets 200 million. So, who has the real problem, i'd say it's the one involved with many issues. Hopefully this is just smoke, but I'm doubting it.

He holds grudges, plain and simple. I remember seeing a clip on Draft night and he was being interviewed after the Packers drafted him. He stated he was going to make the 49ers regret they didn't draft him.... this is how this guy is wired, and it will probably be a long shot in him coming back, especially if any of this fiasco is even half true.

 

[tynimiller]

Denver is still my leading candidate for a Post - June 1 trade. Stafford got Goff, two firsts and a 3rd.

I easily start with Drew Lock (rookie contract and merely a security blanket for Love) + 2022 first rounder + 2023 first rounder and Baron Browning (Or Caden Sterns) they just drafted.

If they won't come off that rookie play tacked on than negotiate one further pick as well.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I find it funny when people argue about what actually happened. We're not going to know guys, even if a conversation happened regarding trading him it's doubtful the truth will hit the media considering how close GMs hold their cards.

Regarding how petty Arod is, probably 10/10. He doesn't talk to his own parents. Nuff said. That's massively petty.

Interesting pettiness measurement scale. I'm sure it's well-researched. What if a person only talks to one parent? Or 3 cousins, 2 sisters, and an uncle, but not the parents or brother? How does this scale work? Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Denver is still my leading candidate for a Post - June 1 trade. Stafford got Goff, two firsts and a 3rd.

I easily start with Drew Lock (rookie contract and merely a security blanket for Love) + 2022 first rounder + 2023 first rounder and Baron Browning (Or Caden Sterns) they just drafted.

If they won't come off that rookie play tacked on than negotiate one further pick as well.

Packers need to keep as far from Locke as possible.

 

[DoURant]

Denver is still my leading candidate for a Post - June 1 trade.

I would have to agree with you, plus that would get him out of the NFC, so less chances to play against him. 49ers seems pretty far fetched. Another possibility could be the Raiders.

 

[tynimiller]

Packers need to keep as far from Locke as possible.

You're skipping over the part you are not trading for him to be the starter, if we go to Love in 2021, I want three QBs on the roster. Solid chance Lock comes over and is our #3 - but there is value in a rookie deal guy with starting experience (even if it is rough). Add in a better veteran to hold down or share the #2 role. IF you do this trade I strongly hope they get a QB back in the deal even if it is a Lock type situation.

 

[GleefulGary]

Denver is still my leading candidate for a Post - June 1 trade. Stafford got Goff, two firsts and a 3rd.

I easily start with Drew Lock (rookie contract and merely a security blanket for Love) + 2022 first rounder + 2023 first rounder and Baron Browning (Or Caden Sterns) they just drafted.

If they won't come off that rookie play tacked on than negotiate one further pick as well.

If that’s what you start with, they’ll accept that quick as can be. That’s essentially the same as what Detroit got.

 

[Team Ronny]

What kind of commitment does he need? The Packers are on the hook for him until 2024? I mean what more does he need? He will have made like $180 million with his current contract. Does he want $100 million a season? He is almost 38..said he wanted to play until 40 originally, which is what this current contract pays him until.

I really don't get why he would be so upset over the Love pick.They needed a young guy to groom to eventually replace him in 4 or 5 years. It's not like they said Jordan is our guy..you can ride the pine for the next 3 years.

 

[PikeBadger]

I agree, I don't see any advantage to GB for leaking this, none. Why, turn fans against Aaron? They didn't even do that crap to to the Marty guy. Regardless of what one might think about the FO's decisions, they have a pretty long history of being respectful of players and the team.

I think someone obviously said something to someone they weren't supposed to. I doubt Rodgers wanted this out there right now either. I think there's something to it and the more time that goes by where he doesn't at least address it by something as simple as saying, football is a business and we're working thru business stuff, you'll know when it's done, the more maybe I think his side did?

But I don't think Rodgers gains anything by this either. Why? turn fans against the Packers? I don't think it's working. I don't think Gute and company cave to public sentiment, their history proves that. They don't listen to the "howl" as one old timer likes to put it. I think Rodgers knows that too. He's too smart not to, unless his camp really misjudged the situation I guess. People do get bad advice sometimes on how to approach things.

I don't think either wanted this in the public.

and I should add, I think they work it out with Rodgers still a Packer.

I agree with your sentiments.

It is my opinion that Rodgers lives inside a very small bubble and as such may not have a clear idea about how others are viewing this situation and the effect it could be having on teammates, staff and mgmt.
Then again, it could be that he doesn’t care about that stuff in the least. I still think he lives in a bubble and has a much different view of reality.

 

[PackAttack12]

You're confusing two very different items. One whether any trade calls were taken vs what I'm saying is Rappa-****** said the Packers told Rodgers they were going to trade him - which was absolutely refuted by Gute a couple times in one presser and others.

You're taking Gute's word which is fine. No problem with it. But it wouldn't be the first time a GM has lied for strategic reasons.

Apologies, appears Trey Wingo and others ran with the they said they were trading him...Rappaport just keeps putting things out there that again have never been confirmed.

Rapoport, Schefter, and others put unconfirmed information out there all of the time. It's called having sources. A lot of what they report doesn't ever necessarily get "confirmed".

You may not like that, but it's the reality.

 

[tynimiller]

If that’s what you start with, they’ll accept that quick as can be. That’s essentially the same as what Detroit got.

I meant that is my starting point or minimum to even have discussions. Sorry that didn't convey as meant.

 

[PackAttack12]

For those insinuating that teams would really be hesitant about trading for Rodgers because he is a "headcase" or "has an ego" or "is in love with himself", or however you want to phrase it, all I can do is respond with...

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[Mondio]

For those insinuating that teams would really be hesitant about trading for Rodgers because he is a "headcase" or "has an ego" or "is in love with himself", or however you want to phrase it, all I can do is respond with...

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The only thing making a trade less likely now is the draft happened and how many were taken in the first round? 5? teams went and got their QB's and not as many are looking.

 

[Mondio]

I agree with your sentiments.

It is my opinion that Rodgers lives inside a very small bubble and as such may not have a clear idea about how others are viewing this situation and the effect it could be having on teammates, staff and mgmt.
Then again, it could be that he doesn’t care about that stuff in the least. I still think he lives in a bubble and has a much different view of reality.

I'd agree, but I also think he's very aware of the Packers, their legacy, their fans, and his attachment to it. Even if all his appearances and words were just paying it lip service (which I don't believe would be true) he's still smart enough to know how what's been reported (if true) would reflect on that and I don't think he'd use it as a bargaining chip or anything like that.

 

[Jerellh528]

For those insinuating that teams would really be hesitant about trading for Rodgers because he is a "headcase" or "has an ego" or "is in love with himself", or however you want to phrase it, all I can do is respond with...

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both AJ Hawk and Pat mcafee said they each got multiple texts from people in nfl front offices who said if Rodgers wants to go to their teams, tell him he can have anything he wants.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The post June would give us some options for this year but if we don't use it we can roll it over so it really doesn't matter.

The cap hit to this year's cap is immensely different pre June 1st and post June 1st - saves us roughly 17M was the figure I see everywhere or so.

I guess I understand that a post June 1 move frees up more Cap for 2021, but it doesn't "save" any, it just pushes 1/2 of it out into 2022. I also get that you don't have to use it this season and can carry it into next or use it on an Adams extension, etc. Remember, 2022 Cap isn't a rosy picture either, so stock up that war chest.

My point is, if we are going to trade Rodgers, the team is not going to be all that good in 2021, so why do we need more cap? So sure, if the deal is the same or better post June 1st, wait and you have more cap flexibility. However, if we get quite a bit more in trade value now, take the full cap hit and make the trade while his market value is highest and don't wait for the next month of drama, teams making other moves and his value bottoming out because of it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hopefully he isn't saying anything because he doesn't know anything. We don't need anyone else adding crap to the pile.

Exactly!! Let all of us be the ones to add the crap G**damnit!