Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

For the record that is what the petty side of me would say...my desire to not wreck the franchise would be to trade his *** and be pleasant to the media but clear it was never our desire to have a team without Aaron Rodgers as our contract stated.

If most of what we know is true, I am in the same camp as you. Also, the sooner the better. I think the drama is just getting started on this and the longer it drags out, the drama and BS builds and ultimately the less we get for him in a trade. If it gets to the point that its a 3rd rounder and a bag of donuts, I don't trade him, call his bluff and let him leave the NFL riding his own ego out the door.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Gute doesn't already know that they won't get as much in a trade as the value of just saying "We don't cave to players demands, so we are not trading Aaron Rodgers" and obviously wrapping it in the more PR friendly and strategic "We love Aaron and he is not being traded."

We have already probably lost a few potential trade partners because of what they did in the draft, I doubt more are lining up wanting to pony up a lot to take on this drama.

 

[gbgary]

can't trade Love...it would be a big cap hit they can't afford. they can absorb the $1m hit for Rodgers in a pre june 1 trade. the question is what the Packers have to assume in players coming their way (future picks is the best scenario). my feelings for Rodgers turned with his demeanor after the extension in 18. got an nfl record QB deal and acted like he did the Packers a favor by taking less than he could have got. then the undermining of McCarthy. then the resistance of MLF's system...until the Love pick occurred. Murphy said "don't be the problem." and he ignored him. it's about all he's done since the MLF hire. now this. it's time for the Packers to move on. the pampered egomaniac has to go. they should have done it before last season. i was cool with him playing one more time this year...but not now. their cap issues will nearly disappear for 22 and beyond if he's gone. they'll actually be able to afford more talent. put the best team possible around Love and see what happens.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

can't trade Love...it would be a big cap hit they can't afford. they can absorb the $1m hit for Rodgers in a pre june 1 trade. the question is what the Packers have to assume in players coming their way (future picks is the best scenario). my feelings for Rodgers turned with his demeanor after the extension in 18. got an nfl record QB deal and acted like he did the Packers a favor by taking less than he could have got. then the undermining of McCarthy. then the resistance of MLF's system...until the Love pick occurred. Murphy said "don't be the problem." and he ignored him. it's about all he's done since the MLF hire. now this. it's time for the Packers to move on. the pampered egomaniac has to go. they should have done it before last season. i was cool with him playing one more time this year...but not now. their cap issues will nearly disappear for 22 and beyond if he's gone. they'll actually be able to afford more talent. put the best team possible around Love and see what happens.

Jeeeeesh.....was wondering when you were going to weigh in.....your silence was uncomfortably Rodgers like.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Something that I don't see brought up much is Rodgers current contract and what happens to it IF he is traded.

I mean what a deal for some team, if they can keep his current contract in place. However, I am sure that Rodgers is saying "make sure you tell whatever team you are trading me to, I want a shiny new contract, that pays me top dollar AND guarantees a ton of money or I am not going to show up for them either."

So this further reduces his trade value, makes any team even contemplating it say to themselves "Despite his talent, do we want this guy on our team at THAT price and THAT baggage?....we will give you a 3rd round for him."

 

[gbgary]

Jeeeeesh.....was wondering when you were going to weigh in.....your silence was uncomfortably Rodgers like.

ha! nothing's been going on until the last few days. hopefully i get to yell "I TOLD YOU SO" in the very near future. (i'd never do that. i'll just whistle a tune )

 

[GleefulGary]

I cannot believe I’m writing this, but one of the reasons that led to Rodgers becoming disgruntled with GB is that right after he praised Jake Kumerow, they released him. This is via Ian Rapoport, who is typically very good.

Jake Kumerow.

I can understand wanting more say in personnel decisions, but LOL. Real life is stranger than fiction. Friggin Jake Kumerow.

 

[tynimiller]

I cannot believe I’m writing this, but one of the reasons that led to Rodgers becoming disgruntled with GB is that right after he praised Jake Kumerow, they released him. This is via Ian Rapoport, who is typically very good.

Jake Kumerow.

I can understand wanting more say in personnel decisions, but LOL. Real life is stranger than fiction. Friggin Jake Kumerow.

Rappa-****** also stated Gute told Rodgers they were trading him before the draft....that was utterly refuted directly and specifically as having never taken place. Ian really needs to **** right now.

 

[Mondio]

I cannot believe I’m writing this, but one of the reasons that led to Rodgers becoming disgruntled with GB is that right after he praised Jake Kumerow, they released him. This is via Ian Rapoport, who is typically very good.

Jake Kumerow.

I can understand wanting more say in personnel decisions, but LOL. Real life is stranger than fiction. Friggin Jake Kumerow.

U serious Clark?

While a nice story, Kumerow was at his ceiling and never did much for us. He likes Mercedes Lewis and they just gave an extension to a guy who said he was going to retire 3 years ago until the Packers came calling. is he that petty?

I'm not going to let myself believe any of this until it's decided, i can't LOL

 

[DoURant]

I haven't burned my #12 jersey yet for the same reason and in case they give it to Amari.

True story Can't say the same for my #27 Eddie Lacy Jersey, I haven't heard of too many Lacy's in the pipeline. For the record, I would never burn a jersey, for those who haven't picked up on my humor and sarcasm yet.

 

[Spanky]

is he that petty?

Yes

 

[longtimefan]

I cannot believe I’m writing this, but one of the reasons that led to Rodgers becoming disgruntled with GB is that right after he praised Jake Kumerow, they released him. This is via Ian Rapoport, who is typically very good.

Jake Kumerow.

I can understand wanting more say in personnel decisions, but LOL. Real life is stranger than fiction. Friggin Jake Kumerow.

If true this had to be leaked by the packers..no way rodgers would want the public to know this

 

[sschind]

No James Jones tweet..id like to hear what he has to say

Hopefully he isn't saying anything because he doesn't know anything. We don't need anyone else adding crap to the pile.

 

[sschind]

OK...I need someone to explain to me "why post June"?

Maybe I am missing something, so I am looking to you for what that something might be.

My side of of doing it NOW is you will probably get more.

I see a post June deal as only allowing us to spread his cap hit over this year and next year, but not "saving" us any money. So my question if that is correct, why do we need more cap space this year if we are trading Rodgers? Without Rodgers, this team is in rebuild mode. I would rather see us start padding the cap account for 2022 and beyond. Even trading a few players that are probably only 1 year guys anyway, for draft pics and cap savings, if it makes sense (Preston Smith).

So I am not trying to be smart assy.....I am really curious why some are saying Post June makes more sense?

The post June would give us some options for this year but if we don't use it we can roll it over so it really doesn't matter.

 

[tynimiller]

The cap hit to this year's cap is immensely different pre June 1st and post June 1st - saves us roughly 17M was the figure I see everywhere or so.

 

[thequick12]

It's great to have a productive offense, but who won the Super Bowl? The team that had a defense that could shut down the top offense in the league (GB) and the most feared (KC).

That's true but didn't the Tampa defense kind of luck out a bit in that both teams lost their starting left tackle just before each game respectively...

 

[longtimefan]

That's true but didn't the Tampa defense kind of luck out a bit in that both teams lost their starting left tackle just before each game respectively...

But kc has all those toys for mahomes..missing starters on the ol shouldnt matter

 

[GleefulGary]

Rappa-****** also stated Gute told Rodgers they were trading him before the draft....that was utterly refuted directly and specifically as having never taken place. Ian really needs to **** right now.

That was Trey Wingo.

Rapoport is one of the best.

 

[thequick12]

Something that I don't see brought up much is Rodgers current contract and what happens to it IF he is traded.

I mean what a deal for some team, if they can keep his current contract in place. However, I am sure that Rodgers is saying "make sure you tell whatever team you are trading me to, I want a shiny new contract, that pays me top dollar AND guarantees a ton of money or I am not going to show up for them either."

So this further reduces his trade value, makes any team even contemplating it say to themselves "Despite his talent, do we want this guy on our team at THAT price and THAT baggage?....we will give you a 3rd round for him."

None of this further reduces his trade value. If the Packers FO does another iteration of let's pass up 3 first round picks for a 2nd just to watch the guy make his way to team they were scared of him going to anyway...they're beyond Kevin king dumb.

And that's the only way his trade value can be reduced. Otherwise it starts at 3 first round picks and 2 quality starters and possibly additional day 2 picks. Look what Rams gave up for Stafford. Rodgers has stated he wants to play til 45 so it's not like you're getting a guy for a year or two like it was with Favre. And vikings still offered 3 firsts. You're getting the league MVP for 5-7 more seasons. That's priceless

If the Packers FO doesn't know how to negotiate or understand the value of what they have...then they need to hire someone who can and does

 

[thequick12]

Rappa-****** also stated Gute told Rodgers they were trading him before the draft....that was utterly refuted directly and specifically as having never taken place. Ian really needs to **** right now.

Ok just because the Packers "utterly refuted directly and specifically". Doesn't mean it didn't happen. We all saw Mark Murphy's awkward attempt at lying about this exact situation about a week prior to the draft....he has since directly and specifically contradicted everything he said during that previous attempt to hide the truth. Going so far as to say something like this situation has been ongoing for months, we have flown to California multiple times blah blah blah

 

[longtimefan]

Ok just because the Packers "utterly refuted directly and specifically". Doesn't mean it didn't happen. We all saw Mark Murphy's awkward attempt at lying about this exact situation about a week prior to the draft....he has since directly and specifically contradicted everything he said during that previous attempt to hide the truth. Going so far as to say something like this situation has been ongoing for months, we have flown to California multiple times blah blah blah

Lynch said it was a call and told no

 

[tynimiller]

Ok just because the Packers "utterly refuted directly and specifically". Doesn't mean it didn't happen. We all saw Mark Murphy's awkward attempt at lying about this exact situation about a week prior to the draft....he has since directly and specifically contradicted everything he said during that previous attempt to hide the truth. Going so far as to say something like this situation has been ongoing for months, we have flown to California multiple times blah blah blah

You're confusing two very different items. One whether any trade calls were taken vs what I'm saying is Rappa-****** said the Packers told Rodgers they were going to trade him - which was absolutely refuted by Gute a couple times in one presser and others.

 

[tynimiller]

Apologies, appears Trey Wingo and others ran with the they said they were trading him...Rappaport just keeps putting things out there that again have never been confirmed.

 

[Ogsponge]

Something I was just thinking about, can you imagine Rodgers having to throw to an entirely new set of receivers?

The guy barely trusts anyone not named Adams as it is. I think his performance drops dramatically on a new team. I am sure it would still be great but not MVP quality

 

[thequick12]

Lynch said it was a call and told no

I don't think that's the same thing that's being referred to. But obviously they're all lying because none of their stories match up.

Lynch said he called night before draft. Gute said he only got one call and it was after the news about Rodgers was broken by schfter day of draft. Others say the Packers backed out of the trade on the niners not the night before the draft but earlier than that in the process. However, after the 49ers traded up to 3. Those people allege I believe that the niners traded up to get that pick as part of a package for Rodgers.

From what I heard from various sources pieced together. Going all the way back to the draft in 2020 is:

Rodgers was beyond pissed and no longer wanted to play for the Packers at that time. Which was reported at the time by among others one Brett Lorenzo Favre who stated he has spoken to Aaron and he doesn't see him playing in Green Bay much longer and certainly not to finish his career. Favre being Favre spoke with a very limited filter. His words seemed like they came directly out of Aaron Rodgers mouth

At that point to smooth things over for 2020. Gute told Rodgers he planned to trade him after the season

Rodgers wins MVP etc

Gute says we no longer want to trade you

Rodgers ok give me extension ensuring I'm the Packers qb thru 2022

Gute No thanks we want to do a simple restructure blah blah blah

Rodgers says Fu2 knowing that gute is still trying to ensure he has the flexibility to move on from Rodgers after each of the next 3 seasons

Awkward denials of a rift by Packers FO

Relative silence from Rodgers beyond the normal read between the lines I'm pissed stuff

Fast Forward to present day


I mean it would sure explain the way Rodgers acted like he thought he had played his last game for the Packers after the nfccg...gute had told him prior to the year he was going to be traded in the off season prior to the 2021 draft

 

[jetfixer]

I certainly want him back, but it is obvious he is a little nuts. I hate mommy and daddy, hot *** chicks, and the team that padded his pockets 200 million. So, who has the real problem, i'd say it's the one involved with many issues. Hopefully this is just smoke, but I'm doubting it.