Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[RRyder]

I recognize that this is a business. Rodgers and the Packers (with their front office) are both businesses. One of them is better at their job than the other. Take a guess which one that is

The one that's worth way more then the other

 

[longtimefan]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/20...aaron-rodgers-is-not-gonna-be-on-the-packers/

All lies

 

[Spanky]

I've lost all respect for Aaron Rodgers. He's revealed himself to be another selfish diva. This is nothing but a financial shake down. I will never cheer the guy again whether he plays for the Packers or some other team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

While I am opposed to tearing up the remaining 3 years of a players contract, maybe the possible solution here IS a new contract. A contract that would closely resemble his current one, but the base would be less, say $25 M and then pack it with some incentives. If he has a 2020 like season he makes more money. If he has a 2017 like season, he makes less than what he would have made under the current contract. Maybe add a few years, but not a lot of guarantees to it.

This should be viewed as a win-win for both sides and a put your money where your mouth is, as well as some "guarantees" for BOTH sides. Sorry Aaron, you can't have your cake and eat it too, same with the Packers.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I was shocked to hear about Rodgers not wanting to play for the Packers anymore. While I definitely still believe it was a terrible mistake to draft Love in the first round of last season that doesn't justify #12 forcing the team to move on from him with three years left on a contract he agreed to in 2018. With everything known about Rodgers off the field I have a hard time believing the Packers will be able to fix the situation.

In that case it might be best for the franchise to trade him for as much compensation as possible. Gutekunst definitely deserves part of the blame for the situation to escalate because of his stupid decision in last year's draft though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I was talking about how many years rodgers has left in his career. Not on his contract. He was 36 when we drafted Love. He hasn't shown any slow down. He has 6 years left at least at that point. And if say more ,barring big devastating injury.....

So now you want to base contracts on a QB playing at the same high level up until the age of 43 or beyond? Is this the "Brady effect"? His current contract has him in Green Bay until he is 40. How many QB's in the history of the NFL have played at a high level past the age of 40? Drew Brees was 41 last year and retired. Favre barely made it to 41.

I think people are also forgetting that just because Love was drafted, it doesn't mean Aaron was all but guaranteed to be shown the door before his current contract expired. Much of that decision was pending on Love and Rodgers himself. We all heard Gute, MLF and Murphy this offseason. Why would you get rid of a guy that just had an MVP season and could potentially have more in him? Had Love been a 3rd or 4th round pick, I don't think so much would have been made of this. He wasn't, instead he was a higher pick, that was viewed as high value, at a very high position of value and potentially a within 2-4 year need window. What is Kirk Cousins feeling today?

 

[swhitset]

Agree, wouldn't be surprised if he divorces Shailene in a couple years.

i’ll be surprised if he doesn’t.

 

[weeds]

My guess is Rodgers would say he would just retire. He wants to go where he wants to go so, he holds some of the cards.

That won't happen. I think if he'd retire he would have to repay $23 million in signing bonuses according to WBAY-Green Bay. I don't know if he sold the Danica/Aaron mansion yet ... and what about the mansion he had in San Diego??? Yeah... a million here and million there ... and pretty soon (with apologies to Sen. Dirksen), you're talking REAL money.

He'll be back. In all of his Aaron-ness ... slighted by the world, still pi55ed at the girl who took his lunch money in 6th grade and using that as motivation. You all know the schtick...

 

[Deleted member 6794]

That won't happen. I think if he'd retire he would have to repay $23 million in signing bonuses according to WBAY-Green Bay.

It's possible the Packers could try to recoup a portion of the signing bonus paid to Rodgers if he retires but there's no guarantee they would be able to.

 

[AmishMafia]

Rodger was the best team player for over a decade. The management disregarded his wants and needs players wise, every year....

Rodgers is a football genius. His caliber of qb is always listened to by management. But not here. It's bad mojo and bad chemistry.... it's the same disrespect GB started with Favre at age 35. And they apparently haven't learned a damn thing about the way to build a chemistry.

Dont get me started. The fact #12 wants to leave is all on GB brass. They ****** up.... bad bad mojo. Bad leadership.

Rodgers wants? Who knows more about building a team? A QB or a GM with a staff of coaches and scouts?

Take your nose out of Rodgers butt for just a second to think about this.

The FO wants to build a winning team. Rodgers wants something different? It takes more than WRs to win.

I hold my FO and team accountable. Maybe you should do the same, instead of giving them passes for a decade on terrible management of a top 10 QB

You realize the Packers made I to the NFCCG 2x in a row, right? Don't tell me that it's because of Rodgers because he was the QB in 2017 and 2018 when we we won 7 and 6 games.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That won't happen. I think if he'd retire he would have to repay $23 million in signing bonuses according to WBAY-Green Bay.

I heard it might even be higher, with the roster bonus he was paid this season already. Also, he is giving up all the pay that he otherwise could have earned for the next 3 years.

I know a lot of people hated Favre by the end, due mostly to his waffling of retiring or not. At least Favre didn't waffle on what team he wanted to play for, until the Packers made if very clear it wouldn't be them.

The longer this goes, the less the Packers are going to get for him. If this is a can't come back from situation, find your best deal soon Gute and trade him.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Outside of not drafting an annual boom or bust wr at the bottom.of the first, or never getting a replacement for a 37 year old qb, what did they not do for Aaron Rodgers???

They didn't serve him up 6 Super Bowls on a Silver Platter.

As a guy that has pissed and moaned about the WR position for 2 years now, I am awake enough to see that Management isn't sitting back saying "How else can we **** Aaron off and stick it to him?" This whole notion of "management has done nothing for Aaron" that people are throwing out there is just ludicrous. WTF do these people think Management has been doing? What is the Packers Record over the last 25 or so seasons? Yes, I will be the first to admit that Rodgers and Favre were a big part of that, but so was Management.

 

[Dieseljunkie12]

Bad take.

Bad take.

Don't really know how to quote multiple items but anyways, completely agree with bad take. What has he done to be a great TEAMMATE? On the same side what has done to not be a great TEAMMATE? He has been a team player and been part of the organization but please tell me what was great about that? He came to work, did his job tremendously and got paid tremendously, albeit too much to do his job. Last I checked football is a team sport, with that being said on paper in my opinion we had a phenomenal first two rounds to help the team. Cornerback to help shore up that side the ball and maybe get the last stop when we need it. We got a center who by my reading is very smart and a great football player, who by the way helps the quarterback stand upright and not get dirty and hurt. And lastly we got a receiver who fits our mold and what our offense runs off. Those three players help the TEAM and in turn hopefully help Rodgers or Love or whoever our quarterback is win the title. This is a team sport not a just one person. If rodgers has a problem with these three picks as a great TEAMMATE then as SJB states, it speaks volumes about Rodgers and his me first attitude.

 

[PackAttack12]

You realize the Packers made I to the NFCCG 2x in a row, right? Don't tell me that it's because of Rodgers because he was the QB in 2017 and 2018 when we we won 7 and 6 games.

The Packers were 4-1 before Rodgers broke his collarbone in 2017. But you know this.

 

[AmishMafia]

The Packers were 4-1 before Rodgers broke his collarbone in 2017. But you know this.

No. Forgot.


So you are saying he is fragile and unreliable?

 

[Mondio]

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[PackAttack12]

No. Forgot.


So you are saying he is fragile and unreliable?

Hasn't missed a meaningful game in the past three years. So, nope.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Packers were 4-1 before Rodgers broke his collarbone in 2017. But you know this.

This is very true, but we also must keep in mind that TT had a poor contingency plan for a decent backup by having Hundley be it. Rodgers is definitely a difference maker, but it isn't as easy as saying "remove Rodgers and we lose most of our games for several seasons". If the Packers part ways with Rodgers I expect that they won't just throw Love into the starting job. They will sign a Journeyman QB to compete with Love for it. They will lose more games in the first season without Rodgers, but it will be the start of what was inevitably creeping closer anyway, life without Rodgers.

 

[GigaPaladin]

This article makes a pretty good pro-Rodgers case (https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/...odgers-green-bay-packers-trade-buzz-nfl-draft). My apologies if it was mentioned already.

Bullet points:

*Packers supposedly promised to trade him this offseason (doubt it tbh but huge if true)

*Love only offensive player we have drafted in round 1 since 2012 (lol didnt realize that. embarrassing for our FO)

*Bucs drafted two impact rookies in the first two rounds who helped them all year including against us. Meanwhile Packers drafted two third stringers.

*Kevin King was atrocious in NFC champ game and even if ur not drafting receiver in R1 could have picked anyone to do better (the anyone part i added cuz he sucked a ******** one in that game). They drafted Stokes this year but unfortunately he is unable to play in the 2020 NFC Championship game at this point.

*They went for a field goal on third down (still can't believe it)

*Didnt tell Rodgers the third down was their last play and would kick next play (meh)

*Whereas Rodgers was expected to be #1 overall pick in 2005 so getting him at 24 was almost a can't pass up this star potential deal not someone they sought out they traded up for Love who was a second round pick to most so they went out of their way to get his replacement.

*Kept McCarthy as coach too long (agreed 100%)

*They went for a field goal on third down (really still can't believe it)

*When Bucs got Brady immediately went crazy adding talent around him (AB, Gronk, first round left tackle, etc) even though already had playmakers on the roster in Goodwin and Evans as opposed to lack of urgency by GB in maxing Rodgers later years.

*Entering a staring contest with a guy who cut off his parents and returned the christmas gifts they sent him unopened not bright.

*They went for a field goal on third down (really, really, really still can't believe it).

 

[Packer96]

Rarely post or come to the site very often. Packer management is the problem. We have been lucky to have back to back QB's that every other team would cherish. We take it for granted. Murph, Gute, they can all go in my opinion. Can't remember the last 1st round pick I was excited about. Field this team without Rodgers and we're maybe a 5 win team. Think Jones is running when it's against 7 in the box because we can't throw? Without Rodgers we are back to the 70's Packers.

 

[GigaPaladin]

The Packers were 4-1 before Rodgers broke his collarbone in 2017. But you know this.

Comparing what Rodgers with McCarthy vs what he with a reasonably competent coach is the key there. They went from a burned out nonfactor who hid in the back office half the time to a young guy who was putting in the work and Im not even a huge LaFleur guy.

 

[longtimefan]

What's he rank on the Qb list , and what's he rank on the pay scale??? Consistantly his whole career he has been top 5 qb and barely top 10 paid. Maybe not even that at times.....

Never complained. Never pulled no power moves. Till now.

The offense around him is #1, going to get him hurt. And #2 be one davante Adam's sprained ankle away from no noticable name besides Mercedes Lewis, to throw to.

How do you know he never complained? Could been doing this every of season?

Check the scale for qb right now..maybe surprised.

And its not packers fault other teams given their qb more money.

Blame dunn (his agent) and rodgers for not having a sliding scale to keep him highest paid

 

[LetzBreel]

How long must we hear Rodgers play the disrespect card? How long must we see him shake his head in disgust at teammates instead of mentoring them as a leader should? It was refreshing last year to see the man act like he enjoyed his job. Was it an act? I have to laugh when I read things from people like GreenBaySlacker who come up with all these "simple" solutions. Just sign this FA and that FA and draft a superstar WR and fire the coach and pay Rodgers and pay Rodgers and pay Rodgers and yadda yadda yadda. If you think that the Packers became relevant back in the early 90's because of #4, you couldn't be more wrong. Reggie White made them relevant again and made it okay to think of Green Bay as a football destination. Have they signed a significant FA since then? I can't think of one but they have signed players that have been reborn in Green Bay. Desmond Howard, Charles Woodson, Frankie "Bag of Donuts" Winters, Santana Dotson, and Ryan Pickett. There are more but you must admit that isn't a who's who of players. Woodson, the obvious great player on the list would have done anything to NOT play in Green Bay by his own admission. It's a 2-way street. Sadly, Titletown is not a hot destination for todays players. Todays athletes are holier than thou, egotistical cry babies that will scream and kick their feet until they get their way. Welcome to the club Mr. Rodgers. Your play has been incredible. Your leadership has been questionable. Your attitude is the complete opposite of your intelligence. The "poor me" thing got old for me a long time ago. Stay? Leave? I don't care. It comforts me to think that someone who has the world by the balls, somehow, someway still can ***** about their "tough" life.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Rodgers wants? Who knows more about building a team? A QB or a GM with a staff of coaches and scouts?

Take your nose out of Rodgers butt for just a second to think about this.

The FO wants to build a winning team. Rodgers wants something different? It takes more than WRs to win.

You realize the Packers made I to the NFCCG 2x in a row, right? Don't tell me that it's because of Rodgers because he was the QB in 2017 and 2018 when we we won 7 and 6 games.

In this case if say Rodgers knows better than the packers brass. And yes firing all of them. Gone. Buh bye.

And yes we made it to the NFC championship games because of Rodgers and not because the Smith brothers, gary and love. Duh.

 

[AmishMafia]

It comforts me to think that someone who has the world by the balls, somehow, someway still can ***** about their "tough" life.

The struggle is real.