Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[AKCheese]

We already have him under contract til the end of his viable career. Who here want to throw huge money at years 41,42,43 of a QB’s career....

 

[scotty]

I still remember the Favre people in 05 doing this, sh1tting on AR until Favre retired a Viking. Packers "fans" saying "told ya" when brett beat us in gb the first time.

If this is just star loyalists adoring and fawning their guy, just say it. Otherwise please tell us how we fix this besides telling AR he is now the defacto gm and coach.

Thanks

This is true, it happened .. it happened here on this site. A lot. And it was shameful. EDIT: Jordan Love pick looked to me like a weird desperation move to TRADE UP to grab him (earlier than they should have, btw). Either way what's done is done, but they've had the chance to smooth things over and make AR happy, and they stubbornly seem to refuse to do so. Rodgers is being very stubborn too, but when you're that season's MVP and undoubtedly a first ballot HOFer there are some prices management has to pay.

I remember those last years with Favre btw. I still loved the guy but he was deteriorating - at least in terms of decision-making - way worse than Rodgers. Trying to force everything into coverage, so many bad interceptions.. It was painful. I finally gave up and turned on him in the end. Sort of.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We drafted a replacement in first round. So no wonder he's a bit worried. The whole situation could have been avoided if we hadn't drafted Love.

Rodgers wasn't worried about Love beating him out, Rodgers was worried that he couldn't control his own destiny and dictate his own terms. All players have other guys behind them or in front of them. This was not Aaron Rodgers decision as to "who or when the Packers found his potential replacement". If playing QB in Green Bay meant that much to him, he shuts up and does it, even offers a nice team friendly restructure to better the team. Instead, if the reports are true, he is still butt sore about the Love pick and wants to tear up his final 3 years of a contract and be paid more. How the F is that a team guy?

 

[G0P4ckG0]

We already have him under contract til the end of his viable career. Who here want to throw huge money at years 41,42,43 of a QB’s career....

Contracts mean nothing and there is always an out clause for all sides, with or without penalty depending upon the clause(s). The "contract" argument for every athlete is always a moot point and teams & players will always find gray area to exit when necessary

 

[XPack]

I want him to be our QB too, but not if he doesn't want to be. I kind of like where the team is at in that regard.

Sounds like the Packers tried that and Rodgers refused. So it sounds like he wants guarantees AND more compensation.

We showed commitment and then drafted a replacement soon after. It was the Packers who were showing conflicting interests. And we got pulled out on that.

We have 3 years left on his current contract and we can reasonably expect 2 and maybe even 3 good years from him. It's not like him asking an extension will invalidate current contract.

We want a restructuring and he's ok for it. Don't see why his demands are somehow extravagant. If we want to restructure, we have to compromise too

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is true, it happened .. it happened here on this site. A lot. And it was shameful. But AR was the number 2 pick in the draft, should have been number 1.

Maybe a typo, but Rodgers was the 24th pick of the 2005 draft, not #2. His selection really wasn't that much different than Love's. Yes Favre was waffling, so TT pulled the trigger when Rodgers free falled. Rodgers and Favre co-existed for 3 years and when the Packers thought it was time to say goodbye to Favre, Rodgers was ready. Given this recent news, Rodgers appears to be pulling some of the same crap Favre did at the end.

 

[sjb12681]

This is true, it happened .. it happened here on this site. A lot. And it was shameful. But AR was the number 2 pick in the draft, should have been number 1. His talent was undeniable. Is Jordan Love cut from the same cloth? Really? It looked more like a weird desperation move to TRADE UP to grab him (earlier than they should have, btw). Either way what's done is done, but they've had the chance to smooth things over and make AR happy, and they stubbornly seem to refuse to do so. Rodgers is being very stubborn too, but when you're that season's MVP and undoubtedly a first ballot HOFer there are some prices management has to pay.

I remember those last years with Favre btw. I still loved the guy but he was deteriorating - at least in terms of decision-making - way worse than Rodgers. Trying to force everything into coverage, so many bad interceptions.. It was painful. I finally gave up and turned on him in the end. Sort of.

What are they refusing to do that is acceptable?

Not a single poster has answered this outside of some Festivus style "airing of grievances".

The team has given him protection (highest paid ever less than 6 months ago), a top wr RESIGNED, and brought back EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE player that could be squeezed from a dollar bill.

They didn't put some weird intangible trade together to get another WR. They didn't go back in time and unwind the Love pick.

When does it become an undeliverable request?

 

[Mondio]

We showed commitment and then drafted a replacement soon after. It was the Packers who were showing conflicting interests. And we got pulled out on that.

We have 3 years left on his current contract and we can reasonably expect 2 and maybe even 3 good years from him. It's not like him asking an extension will invalidate current contract.

We want a restructuring and he's ok for it. Don't see why his demands are somehow extravagant. If we want to restructure, we have to compromise too

at this point, I have no idea what was offered or asked for.

 

[XPack]

Rodgers wasn't worried about Love beating him out, Rodgers was worried that he couldn't control his own destiny and dictate his own terms. All players have other guys behind them or in front of them. This was not Aaron Rodgers decision as to "who or when the Packers found his replacement". If playing QB in Green Bay meant that much to him, he shuts up and does it, even offers a nice team friendly restructure to better the team. Instead, if the reports are true, he is still butt sore about the Love pick and wants to tear of his final 3 years of a contract and be paid more. How the F is that a team guy?

That's an absolutely naive opinion. No MVP just "shuts up and does it". And even expecting that is nonsense. It's a business decision. We want him here, we have to give him more.

Packers obviously initiated the renegotiation else the whole point is moot.

 

[sjb12681]

We showed commitment and then drafted a replacement soon after. It was the Packers who were showing conflicting interests. And we got pulled out on that.

We have 3 years left on his current contract and we can reasonably expect 2 and maybe even 3 good years from him. It's not like him asking an extension will invalidate current contract.

We want a restructuring and he's ok for it. Don't see why his demands are somehow extravagant. If we want to restructure, we have to compromise too

We also have a cap. No one knows what he is asking.

 

[scotty]

Maybe a typo, but Rodgers was the 24th pick of the 2005 draft, not #2. His selection really wasn't that much different than Love's. Yes Favre was waffling, so TT pulled the trigger when Rodgers free falled, but do you think that pick sent Favre crying?

Sorry I meant of QBs, though I might even be wrong on that. Remembering the Alex Smith/ARod storyline.

You're right Favre didn't cry. He was always kind of coolly collected and in charge of that situation. Such an egotist, but he knew what he was doing. To the detriment of the team, after a certain point.

 

[jhawk008]

We also have a cap. No one knows what he is asking.

You guys sound like Mike Florio on some "What do you want Aaron, tell us!!".. You're a fan, wtf are you gonna do about his demands and why the hell should he come out and express it to anyone other than the organization. The Packers brass know what he wants

 

[sjb12681]

You guys sound like Mike Florio on some "What do you want Aaron, tell us!!".. You're a fan, wtf are you gonna do about his demands and why the hell should he come out and express it to anyone other than the organization. The Packers brass know what he wants

And you are a fan as well, one who seems more tied to a qb than the team.

I knew a bunch of those guys 12 years ago who bought purple jerseys.have fun with that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's a business decision. We want him here, we have to give him more.

You are absolutely right, it is a business decision. We have him here for 3 more years under a contract, that he agreed to. So I disagree with you that the Packers HAVE to give him more money. How much did Rodgers give back to the Packers in 2013 and 17? He has an MVP year in 2020, so now suddenly he gets to rip up his contract?

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

So if Brady does then everyone should be able? Great logic.

And if you didn't see a decline in ARs performance in 2106, 2017, and 2018 then you didn't watch the games, have a poor memory, or are wearing your Rodgers/rose colored glasses.

Yea and since ted Thompson pulled a hall of Famer out of thin air with his first pick. Obviously gute can too.

Wheres my dang eye roll emoji!

 

[XPack]

You are absolutely right, it is a business decision. We have him here for 3 more years under a contract, that he agreed to. So I disagree with you that the Packers HAVE to give him more money.

You ignored the fact that we want to restructure the contract. If we all want the original signed contract then there's no discussion.

We have this situation where Packers would like to change the terms, so why make an issue with him doing the same?

 

[XPack]

We also have a cap. No one knows what he is asking.

But that doesn't stop you from making him a villain, did it?

 

[jhawk008]

And you are a fan as well, one who seems more tied to a qb than the team.

I knew a bunch of those guys 12 years ago who bought purple jerseys.have fun with that.

I recognize that this is a business. Rodgers and the Packers (with their front office) are both businesses. One of them is better at their job than the other. Take a guess which one that is

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You ignored the fact that we want to restructure the contract. If we all want the original signed contract then there's no discussion.

We have this situation where Packers would like to change the terms, so why make an issue with him doing the same?

While we all don't have ALL of the information, it sounds like the Packers went to Rodger to restructure the contract and he refused. Which to me says they were willing to do something other then just push money out into the future for cap purposes.

I never said I wasn't in favor of reworking the timing of his contracted money, as long as it was cap only moves. I did say though, he signed a contract which paid him a boatload of money, there are 3 years left on it and if he is now saying "pay me more or I will retire", I consider that a **** move.

 

[sjb12681]

But that doesn't stop you from making him a villain, did it?

nope.

What made him a villain in this was when a very conveniently timed, for just the right BREAKING NEWS effect moment happened yesterday, and EVERYONE in NFL circles INCLUDING GMs, openly talking about this MESS... dropped 6hours pre-draft.

Murphy spoke, Gute spoke, Teammates have spoken. Pundits and fans have spoken...

everyone has said they 100% want him back. No trades, don't even ask John lynch.

But Not Aaron. He could have quickly put this to bed, like everyone else who is committed to the Packers has.

But he has chosen to say nothing.

speaks VOLUMES to me.

 

[sjb12681]

I recognize that this is a business. Rodgers and the Packers (with their front office) are both businesses. One of them is better at their job than the other. Take a guess which one that is

Crazy, that sound just like what the Favre guys used to say.

I don't root for players to stick it to my team. I don't take the side of a player holding out.

I don't follow p!Ayers who leave then and hope they do well against us just to show who was right.

I'm a Packers Fan. That's it. I root for the team, Now and in the future.

So, I think the Packers are doing a better job of it right now.

Aarons a player. I don't root for the Aarons. I root for the Packers.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Rodger was the best team player for over a decade. The management disregarded his wants and needs players wise, every year....

Rodgers is a football genius. His caliber of qb is always listened to by management. But not here. It's bad mojo and bad chemistry.... it's the same disrespect GB started with Favre at age 35. And they apparently haven't learned a damn thing about the way to build a chemistry.

Dont get me started. The fact #12 wants to leave is all on GB brass. They ****** up.... bad bad mojo. Bad leadership.

 

[jhawk008]

Crazy, that sound just like what the Favre guys used to say.

I don't root for players to stick it to my team. I don't take the side of a player holding out.

I don't follow p!Ayers who leave then and hope they do well against us just to show who was right.

I'm a Packers Fan. That's it. I root for the team, Now and in the future.

So, I think the Packers are doing a better job of it right now.

Aarons a player. I don't root for the Aarons. I root for the Packers.

I hold my FO and team accountable. Maybe you should do the same, instead of giving them passes for a decade on terrible management of a top 10 QB

 

[sjb12681]

Rodger was the best team player for over a decade. The management disregarded his wants and needs players wise, every year....

Rodgers is a football genius. His caliber of qb is always listened to by management. But not here. It's bad mojo and bad chemistry.... it's the same disrespect GB started with Favre at age 35. And they apparently haven't learned a damn thing about the way to build a chemistry.

Dont get me started. The fact #12 wants to leave is all on GB brass. They ****** up.... bad bad mojo. Bad leadership.

Bad take.

 

[sjb12681]

I hold my FO and team accountable. Maybe you should do the same, instead of giving them passes for a decade on terrible management of a top 10 QB

Outside of not drafting an annual boom or bust wr at the bottom.of the first, or never getting a replacement for a 37 year old qb, what did they not do for Aaron Rodgers???