Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Schultz]

While I agree with that statement, the FO appears to be wanting to move on at this point. If that is the case, part of that might be Jordan Love, but one has to guess that the other part is that the relationship between Rodgers and the decision makers is no longer exceptable. You don't just purge a first ballot HOF QB, because you want to move on to an untested Jordan Love.

Now take what I said and reverse it, maybe it is Aaron Rodgers that is done with the Packers. Wouldn't change much of what I said, it would just reverse the positions. Rodgers wants out and the Packers are trying to accommodate him. We may never know, but I am leaning towards scenario #1.

Spot on. Jordan is going to be a lot more mobile than Rodgers and even when Bahk missed almost all of the 2021 season, the OL played pretty well. Yes, it would be awesome to have a former Pro Bowl LT, but Bahk will be 32 at the start of the season. He was very slow to recover from his knee injury and who knows how much gas is left in his tank. With the kind of savings the Packers would see by purging him, I think its a realistic option.

I also think people need to stop looking at just the "cap hit" of a player in 1 particular season. That is really such a "blinders on" viewpoint and doesn't really look at the big picture. It might be time that the Packers start cleaning up all the cans they kicked down the road and get cap healthy again, so that they can do more than only keep a few of their own players, we saw the results of that last season.

I hope you are not saying Jordan Love will make an OL look better than AR.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I hope you are not saying Jordan Love will make an OL look better than AR.

Not at all, but thanks for trying to imply it.

 

[Snoops]

So then what's up woth baktiarhi?

I have nothing on bahktiari. Most logical thing to do is restructure him. But if they dumped his contract it would be interesting. I hear savage could be a salary dump to the jets too. Rodgers is desperately trying to stay barring change of mind from front office Rodgers has played his last game for Green Bay retirement is real as well don’t let the media convince otherwise. Talked to Rodgers camp yesterday a lot of back in forth if Rodgers wants to the jets a deal is already in place

 

[Schultz]

Not at all, but thanks for trying to imply it.

No, Thank you for letting us know JLove is a lot more mobile than ARodgers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No, Thank you for letting us know JLove is a lot more mobile than ARodgers.

Glad to hear you found my information useful.

 

[Mondio]

If they don't think David is over his knee, then yeah, thanks for the memories, see you later. I happen to think he looked stronger and worked past it. For the level he brings, I think he's worth the risk.

But if you're going to clean up your cap, clean it up. Don't change Jones, don't change preston, Clark, Jaire a year later, why start a restructure with David if you don't think it's worth it? They just kicked 4 more down the road and started a 5th, and that's just in the past month practically. Doesn't sound like a clean up the cap mode to me.

and Rodgers may not be as fast on the run as he used to be, but he's still one of the absolute best in manipulating a pocket. There's more to being a QB than the ability to run. out of the 2 QB's that need a LT like David more? Love, every time.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just the way he likes it....

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[Snoops]

Which is retirement or leave unless something changes with front office he still trying to stay with Green Bay one more year

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Which is retirement or leave unless something changes with front office he still trying to stay with Green Bay one more year

I hope they don't cave. I really don't view the Packers as a SB team in 2023, even if Rodgers stays. Rip off the band aid, try to get as much as you can for him and move on. I also would hate to see another average season, have Rodgers repeat and rinse his now annual Waffling event, picking mid rounds in the draft and then get nothing in a trade for Rodgers.

 

[Snoops]

They just restructured bahktiari

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

They just restructured bahktiari

To get him ready to be traded?

 

[Snoops]

To get him ready to be traded?

40 mil cap hit next year yikes

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

40 mil cap hit next year yikes

Hmmmm....I see a big hit, but "only" $32.965M

Or is that now his new cap hit, after a restructure?

EDIT: YIKES!! It will be OVER $40M!! WTAF?

His cap number for his final year under contract, 2024, has soared to $40,565,517. That is almost as much as Aaron Rodgers' scheduled $40,701,666.

Seems like they are clearing money to probably absorb a big hit from the Rodgers trade. I really hope part of it is also redoing Bahk so it is easier to trade him as well.

 

[Magooch]

I could see the angle that they're trying to clear space to absorb a big hit from Rodgers but it might just be a "wait and see" type of thing. Bakh is still only 31 which is still young-ish for OL. If they think he is fully recovered from his knee injury and back to playing at a top level then I would assume they would extend his contract and spread that hit out.

And in either case I believe they can still save roughly 20m by cutting him next year (albeit with about the same in dead cap I think, if I have the numbers roughly correct)

 

[thequick12]

Well they restructured Bakh, so id say theyre unlikely to trade him now. Im assuming he'd count for less dead money if traded had they not restructured him

 

[longtimefan]

Well they restructured Bakh, so id say theyre unlikely to trade him now. Im assuming he'd count for less dead money if traded had they not restructured him

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However, the contract move made on Friday makes that less likely but not impossible. The $9.5 million roster bonus wasn’t due until Wednesday. Trading him with that bonus on the books will make it more expensive for the Packers to make the trade.

A league source said he assumes Bakhtiari will stick with the Packers for 2023 but he “wouldn’t put anything past the Packers if they’re rebuilding.

 

[thequick12]

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Nice I guess I assumed right, I think Id actually prefer they kept him at least this season. Just to give Love the confidence that he doesn't need to worry about his blind side

 

[Snoops]

Nice I guess I assumed right, I think Id actually prefer they kept him at least this season. Just to give Love the confidence that he doesn't need to worry about his blind side

Agreed protecting love is important be interesting to see if they give bahk a contract ext next year with his massive cap hit

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Agreed protecting love is important be interesting to see if they give bahk a contract ext next year with his massive cap hit

Having money to spend on WR's, TE's and other players on the O-line has to be pretty important too. I get the risk of employing another LT to take his spot, which they did in 2021 and much of last season, with some good and bad results.

Tying up the kind of money that we are talking about on a soon to be 32 year old LT, that has played sparingly over the last 2 seasons, isn't a course I would want to take as the GM. I get people worried about not having Bahk, but there are 31 other teams playing without him and some do just fine. I assume Love will be using his mobility and legs a lot more than Rodgers, that should help him and the offense.

 

[Pugger]

And look - push all the darkness, immunization, Jordan Love drafting.....EVERYTHING aside.

The Packers are all Aaron has known these years. You're talking about a guy that doesn't even have a great relationship with his family or have had consistency there at times in his life.

This would be a GRUELING and HARD situation for him regardless of any hurt or ill feelings which may exist towards the Packers.

Put it this way - even if he's excited for the new chance and I swear he will be motivated to prove some folks he was worth it...but that man as in touch with his feelings he is I guarantee has shed some massive tears due to time here being done it seems.

This is a tough decision for Rodgers. He's had it great in GB all these years. He was a big fish in a small pond. The traffic is much calmer in GB over NY. You can get around town in no time. They don't really have rush hour traffic. The cost of living is great. Is he ready to start over with a new team, teammates, coaches and facility? Does he really want to tangle with the NY media? The money would be nice but will it be worth the hassle in the end? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he retires instead.

 

[ExpatPacker]

This is a tough decision for Rodgers. He's had it great in GB all these years. He was a big fish in a small pond. The traffic is much calmer in GB over NY. You can get around town in no time. They don't really have rush hour traffic. The cost of living is great. Is he ready to start over with a new team, teammates, coaches and facility? Does he really want to tangle with the NY media? The money would be nice but will it be worth the hassle in the end? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he retires instead.

When you're talking $60 million something tells me it is worth the hassle. Plus i really don't think Aaron has to worry about the cost of living in New York. It's not going to put a real dent in his wallet.

 

[Mondio]

It’s not always about wanting NY or not. It could very well be that he doesn’t want to leave GB. From day one pretty much I always got the sense that being a Packer for his career was important to him.

 

[gopkrs]

It’s not always about wanting NY or not. It could very well be that he doesn’t want to leave GB. From day one pretty much I always got the sense that being a Packer for his career was important to him.

Yes, I agree. I just think it's better to move on and wish we had done it last year. I was disappointed when we did not. But there were a shitload of fans against that and Gute and company don't live in a vacuum.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Yes, I agree. I just think it's better to move on and wish we had done it last year. I was disappointed when we did not. But there were a shitload of fans against that and Gute and company don't live in a vacuum.

I sure wish we would have. Also believe we should have traded Alexander too and tried to pool as much draft capital for 2023. Going into this draft, we would either go in knowing we have the answer with Love and have a crap ton of picks to build around him or go in with enough draft capital to draft one of the QBs.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

When you're talking $60 million something tells me it is worth the hassle. Plus i really don't think Aaron has to worry about the cost of living in New York. It's not going to put a real dent in his wallet.

Not just $60M, but the hundreds of millions that he has made in salary and endorsements, as an employee of The Green Bay Packers. Of course it isn't about money and I don't particularly think its about his ability or desire to play football next season. This is a power trip for Rodgers and for once the Packers seemed to have told him that they have already made up their minds. Now he is trying to figure out his best exit strategy.

I understand how some might think Rodgers is loyal to the Packers, I even think that he has thoroughly convinced himself of that BS. I'm not buying it, Aaron Rodgers is only loyal to himself and his own ego.